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(old news - 01:44PM Friday Feb 20 2009)
tags: Video · competition · business · alternatives · Op/Ed · cable
According to a report in today's Wall Street Journal, both Time Warner Cable and Comcast are working with broadcasters on plans to deliver their customers TV programming via the Internet at no additional charge. According to the Journal's sources, the companies are concerned about the proliferation of free video content on the Internet, and are trying to adapt their business models.

As usual, ceaselessly-quoted Sanford C. Bernstein analyst Craig Moffett gets flushed and excited over the concept, telling the Journal the idea "kills two birds with one stone." Mr. Moffett apparently is suggesting the plan would lure in new subscribers, while giving cable an advantage over telcoTV or satellite. But with so much content already available for free online, it doesn't seem like it would accomplish either.

While the idea could be seen as a nice value added service for those who have no plans to cancel cable TV, it also doesn't really replicate the functionality of a Slingbox unless all content is mirrored and available. It's also not entirely clear how this would prevent customer defections, since customers who cut the cord and flock to piracy or legal systems like Hulu do so because they're free and there's either limited or no advertisements.

For the moment there's more questions (a huge one being whether this content counts against caps) than answers, until we have more detail. At the moment, this sounds like a belated attempt to appear cutting edge and capitalize on online video ad revenue by simply replicating existing online services. After all, any cable (or phone) company's worst nightmare is to be delegated to dumb pipe status by the time Internet video truly takes off.

Update: It looks like Comcast is making the media rounds with some additional detail about their plans, and are noting, among other things, that this content will count against your 250GB monthly cap.

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RRMAN
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Comcast, Time Warner Plan Broadband TV

Great idea. Can't wait for it to happen. Hopefully it won't count against caps
neufuse

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Re: Comcast, Time Warner Plan Broadband TV

if it didn't then that could be a net neutrality issue

baineschile
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Has anyone mentioned CAPS yet?
Automate

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I wonder if this is a prelude to them offering programming everywhere in the US. They test out the systems on a small scale with their own customers and then open it up to everyone in the US. They have a lot more potential customers if they are not limited to the areas they have cable networks.
rob316

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Carteret, NJ

LOL

So wait now Comcast will offer it's customer's a way to go over their stupid Caps. This company always seems to amaze me. How about upgrade your infrastructure instead of throwing money into a service that already exists.

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stupid people

i can video stream netflixs 8hour a day everyday of the month and still not hit the 250gb cap

kamm

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Re: stupid people

said by jt4 :

i can video stream netflixs 8hour a day everyday of the month and still not hit the 250gb cap
Just do it, if you like shitty picture quality, ROFL.

Netflix streaming quality is worse than Time Warner Cable's abhorrrent, notoriousy fucked up, compressed-as-hel PoS SD quality which alone is an incredible "achievement".
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Re: stupid people

said by kamm See Profile :

Netflix streaming quality is worse than Time Warner Cable's abhorrrent, notoriousy fucked up, compressed-as-hel PoS SD quality which alone is an incredible "achievement".
If you have a good connection Netflix streaming is good quality. The problem I've run into is that their software is very conservative in picking the quality of the stream and you can't force it to a better quality even if your connection is able to handle it.
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Re: stupid people

said by Combat Chuck See Profile :

said by kamm See Profile :

Netflix streaming quality is worse than Time Warner Cable's abhorrrent, notoriousy fucked up, compressed-as-hel PoS SD quality which alone is an incredible "achievement".
If you have a good connection Netflix streaming is good quality. The problem I've run into is that their software is very conservative in picking the quality of the stream and you can't force it to a better quality even if your connection is able to handle it.
Heavily compressed, standard definition video is far from 'good' quality. This isn't 1999 anymore, people. We've had this thing called high definition for over ten years. It's not something new. Get with the program. Anything less than 720p should be considered 'poor' quality. Anything less than 1080p should be considered 'medium' quality.

Eat Me

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Re: stupid people

I can stream netflix in 720p and it looks good.

tmh

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said by jt4 :

i can video stream netflixs 8hour a day everyday of the month and still not hit the 250gb cap
Only 8 hours a day and just one stream?

n00b

Smith6612
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Switch on the HD video and see what happens
devnuller

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CAPS

Did someone mention CAPS yet!!!!
me1212

join:2008-11-20
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Re: CAPS

Yeah, the thing said theres no word on that yet, but I agree, TWs would be worse at least CC has like 5x the cap. And throttling what about that!?!??!
nasadude

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said by devnuller See Profile :

Did someone mention CAPS yet!!!!
well, the article certainly didn't.

then again, I'm sure the writer got all his info from the cableco and they're certainly not going to mention it.

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Re: CAPS

said by nasadude See Profile :

said by devnuller See Profile :

Did someone mention CAPS yet!!!!
well, the article certainly didn't.

then again, I'm sure the writer got all his info from the cableco and they're certainly not going to mention it.
I will tell you a secret the caps are more of a way to get you to use less bandwidth then a limitation.
Comcast do not really enforce caps
You have to be in their top 10 list to be warned about heavy usage so yes many that goes over 250gb a month are not warned. They look for user that are slowing everyone down rather then user that goes over 250GB
Its a bandwidth conservation tactic

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Go For It! Embrace the future!

This is the inevitable. Some customers are already ahead -- they've cut the Cable TV out and they're getting all their TV via local OTA broadcast and the Internet.

Cable TV used to be about bringing the OTHER channels -- the ones you can't get locally, and doing so commercial free. Now nearly all of the channels play as many commercials as broadcast TV does and half of their programming schedule is 30 to 60 minute infomercials! (And we foolishly pay more each year as we get less and less of the programming we want.)

Looking beyond this next phase that goes to "subscribers only" of each system, I like the idea of these companies offering Comcast TV or Time Warner TV on the Internet for anyone to subscribe to.

It's only a matter of time until the Internet provider doesn't matter, until I can get the free or subscription services that I want.

This brings the business back to the roots. No longer bounded by "Cable" to a particular geography, these companies can aggregate the entertainment into packages and sell it to consumers for less than if consumers went and got each subscription individually.
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Re: Go For It! Embrace the future!

said by funchords See Profile :

like the idea of these companies offering Comcast TV or Time Warner TV on the Internet for anyone to subscribe to.
This brings the business back to the roots. No longer bounded by "Cable" to a particular geography, these companies can aggregate the entertainment into packages and sell it to consumers for less than if consumers went and got each subscription individually.
But there has to be a way to bring it to the TV. If it is trapped by viewing on PC with DRM that is too restrictive then it won't fly.

There has to be a viable alternative to P2P downloads EG.... apple removed their restrictive DRM in itunes is one example to compete more effectively. I'm not sure how CC and time are going to build this model. Obviously, they can't offer expanded on demand services since content companies like disney want to continue their extortion through carriage bundling of channels. They probably won't allow any DRM free downloads either so people can liberate those files to be played on set tops or other devices. Consequently, it will probably be another DRM entrenched model that will not fair well.
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Re: Go For It! Embrace the future!

A good amount of programming is already available via TiVo and Roku devices connected directly to a television; Amazon.com rentals, Netflix streaming, YouTube video, etc., and it's growing. You don't have to download to watch and a computer is not necessary except to manage your Netflix queue (for example). And this doesn't include what is also available via devices like a PS2 or XBox which are also connected to televisions.

The day has already come.

Eat Me

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Re: Go For It! Embrace the future!

The amount of HD content on netflix isn't all that much. I've watched all I could.

Hollywood is holding back because $8.99 "all you can eat" doesn't look very profitable to them.
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Re: Go For It! Embrace the future!

The amount of true HD content on most cable systems is not that much, either. Even when it is not compressed to death it's mostly upconverted SD.

The mechanism is in place via Netflix and others, though.

The instant story, however, has nothing to do with HDTV.

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said by HiDesert See Profile :

But there has to be a way to bring it to the TV. If it is trapped by viewing on PC with DRM that is too restrictive then it won't fly.
Not as hard as one would think.





As simple as connecting to an external display.
My 42" HDTV has VGA(computer monitor), component, composite, S video, and HDMI.

My laptops have decent connection options... do it all the time!
Works with Movielink/Blockbuster rentals and several other stream and/or video sources.
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Re: Go For It! Embrace the future!

said by dadkins See Profile :

said by HiDesert See Profile :

But there has to be a way to bring it to the TV. If it is trapped by viewing on PC with DRM that is too restrictive then it won't fly.
Not as hard as one would think.





As simple as connecting to an external display.
My 42" HDTV has VGA(computer monitor), component, composite, S video, and HDMI.

My laptops have decent connection options... do it all the time!
Works with Movielink/Blockbuster rentals and several other stream and/or video sources.
YET.

His point is about the illegal DRM practices the Hollywood-mob is slowly enforcing EVERYWHERE and you bet this online STREAM WILL NOT PROVIDE HD STREAM WITHOUT HDCP ENFORCED.

AND THEN YOU'RE *&^$D if you'll be using your good ol' D-sub (analog) display output...
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Re: Go For It! Embrace the future!

Guess you didn't see the VGA port.
What's that right next to the VGA? HDMI, huh?

What good is any video source without a display?
Since most of us(guessing even you) have ports for some sort of display, whether it's HDMI or VGA, *WE* can watch anything on just about any display *WE* wish.

VAIO laptops here Kamm - remember? Blu-ray?
Cannot play a Blu-ray without HDCP... right?
Well, these are Sony VAIOs with BD drives.

You figure it out...
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Re: Go For It! Embrace the future!

Dadkins,

You are right but beware of Hollywood's heavy lobbying for Selectable Output Controls. This means that THEY can turn off the non-protected ports anytime THEY want to in the name of preventing piracy.

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Re: Go For It! Embrace the future!

said by funchords See Profile :

Dadkins,

You are right but beware of Hollywood's heavy lobbying for Selectable Output Controls. This means that THEY can turn off the non-protected ports anytime THEY want to in the name of preventing piracy.

Robb
Same applies to Blu-ray.
HDCP really gets pissed if there is a failure somewhere between the optical drive and the display.
Using VGA has been known to display the movie fine.
Yes, it is relying on the machine's DAC instead of the displays, but in most cases it works out fine.

*IF* these new services are that restrictive, they will be limiting themselves too greatly because of the non HDCP machines out there that may wish to use the service(s).
See foot, pull trigger.
Guessing(hoping) someone realizes this and doesn't get *too* stupid.
This laptop... really don't know if it is HDCP compliant.
Might be, might not be.
My BD laptops, you betcha! No problem!
This machine is 2004 vintage, guessing there are a "couple" people out there that are questionable as well.
To succeed, the service will need to work on older machines that may not conform to these new CP schemes.

We'll have to wait and see.
$5.00 says it will work on this 5 y/o VGN-A190!
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Re: Go For It! Embrace the future!

Most of the HDCP stuff is bypassed if you use Linux.

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said by Lazlow See Profile :

Most of the HDCP stuff is bypassed if you use Linux.
Many/most online streaming things require Windows and sometimes IE.
That kinda makes Linux a no-go.
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Re: Go For It! Embrace the future!

You can run IE on Linux(EIs4Linux) but usually you just can set FF to trick most sites into thinking it is IE. Most sites that have been around for very long, have linux work arounds.

There are also very few sites(non that I am actually aware of) that you cannot capture the streams locally(save as file).

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said by funchords See Profile :

Cable TV used to be about bringing the OTHER channels -- the ones you can't get locally, and doing so commercial free. Now nearly all of the channels play as many commercials as broadcast TV does and half of their programming schedule is 30 to 60 minute infomercials! (And we foolishly pay more each year as we get less and less of the programming we want.)
Once you have an established audience then you have the justification to gain revenue from advertising partners. What makes you think history isn't going to repeat itself with any other video distribution method?
majortom1029

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hmm

How would this be going over your caps? Most likely you will be using this when not at home.

baineschile
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Re: hmm

Has anyone mentioned CAPS yet?

Chuckles
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Waste of time.

Anyone already watching TV online is most likely doing it as an alternative to paying for cable. People paying for cable are probably not wishing they could watch TV on their laptop instead of their super fancy TV.
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Re: Waste of time.

said by Chuckles See Profile :

Anyone already watching TV online is most likely doing it as an alternative to paying for cable. People paying for cable are probably not wishing they could watch TV on their laptop instead of their super fancy TV.
BZZZZZTTT! We have a winner.

I would estimate my potential to take advantage of this wonderful new way to watch cable video as ZERO.

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Re: Waste of time.

Id have to disagree with this notion...

Have any of you heard of slingbox? I have... not to mention I have one collecting dust somewhere around here... not really because of not want to stream stuff to my pda and my laptop but rather I just havent set it back up since i moved my computer. (a couple months i bet)

I acually went on my laptop and tried to watch my cable via the slingbox the other day but forgot that it wasent setup...

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Re: Waste of time.

said by MalibuMaxx See Profile :

Id have to disagree with this notion...

Have any of you heard of slingbox?
Why not ditch the slingbox and use the free TV already available on the internet? Or do you use it with a DVR?

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Re: Waste of time.

said by Chuckles See Profile :

said by MalibuMaxx See Profile :

Id have to disagree with this notion...

Have any of you heard of slingbox?
Why not ditch the slingbox and use the free TV already available on the internet? Or do you use it with a DVR?
I'd love to hear about it more if I could watch my favs as well as HD online...
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nasadude

Most new computer come with a HDMI (or at least DVI) output on them and most new TVs have matching inputs. It is pretty much plug and play. There are currently a ton of sources of 720p content out on the net and we are seeing a steady climb in 1080p content. Most of this content has far less compression than what you get from most cable companies (better picture). Having a PC in the living room is becoming mainstream. For several years now most of the major case manufactures have been producing cases just for this purpose.

The big problem here is caps. With a typical one hour show in 720p being about 1.2GB and 1080p being 4.4GB(this number has not settled in yet) most caps can be eaten through pretty quickly(think of four people in one house with varying tastes in TV).
me1212

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Is this the end of caps?!

Plz say it is.
nasadude

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Re: Is this the end of caps?!

said by me1212 See Profile :

Plz say it is.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! you're funny.
me1212

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Re: Is this the end of caps?!

Well, how else are they NOT going to break the net neutrality, and still not have their stuff count against caps?
nasadude

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Re: Is this the end of caps?!

I agree. I'm just being sarcastic, as I see absolutely no chance they will raise or eliminate caps because of this.

however, I could see them adding a new, more costly tier with higher caps.
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Re: Is this the end of caps?!

said by nasadude See Profile :

I agree. I'm just being sarcastic, as I see absolutely no chance they will raise or eliminate caps because of this.
Why not? They would be making $$$ on direct content downloads. I'm sure comcast and time can make exceptions to caps as long as they get paid for the content downloaded. And who knows, they may have had plenty of Bandwidth for these services. The whole throttling and capping may have been just invented merely because they were sore about those who got their content for free and downgraded their TV subscriptions or eliminated them all together. Cable is pretty much unregulated and its anybodies guess whether the changes in TOS were needed because of inadequate infrastructure or if they had "other" motivations. I'm thinking this article is surfacing one of those other motivating factors.
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I can see them adding a new plan that costs as much as tv and internet do now, but it would have no cap ect. they would still be making the same $, but in a different form.

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CAPS i need to shut them off

otherwise im considered rude because im yelling...

please people everytime one of these companies are mentioned doesnt mean you have to scream CAPS. its old news that these companies have caps... it doesnt stop me using my service or stream tv or netflix... and no i dont go over my limits...

i still use about the same amt of bandwidth each month... 30-60 GB per month... get over it... speed and tv and caps have nothing to do with what the offer.

TW needs to up their cap though... isnt it 20gb or something...
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Re: CAPS i need to shut them off

said by MalibuMaxx See Profile :

...
please people everytime one of these companies are mentioned doesnt mean you have to scream CAPS. its old news that these companies have caps... it doesnt stop me using my service or stream tv or netflix... and no i dont go over my limits...
the problem is that every time a "new" use of the network is contemplated, one has to consider how this new use will impact the caps. especially if the use is something bandwidth intensive, like video.

caps are to new and innovative uses of the internet like kryptonite is to superman

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said by MalibuMaxx See Profile :

TW needs to up their cap though... isnt it 20gb or something...
It's between 5 and 40 depending on what tier you have.
If you bought the monthly 15 mbps/40 GB transfer option for about $56 a month, you’d get about 40 hours of standard definition video along with enough bandwidth for your normal browsing and surfing habits. That’s just over 75 minutes of SD Internet video every day - two or three shows at best - which means you might need to continue buying the “video connection” in order to watch more television. Sure you can slice and dice the data transfers with other online activities, but this is all about video.
»Time Warner Caps: Behind The Numbers

The caps are in response to video competition to traditional video business models. Even AT&T are discussing caps because its vanilla DSL is starting to compete directly with its newly rolled out video service U-verse. What a perfect way to squash growing online content providers.
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Re: CAPS i need to shut them off

"The caps are in response to video competition to traditional video business models"

What is your source that caps are coming from video broadband competition? Or is that another opinion stated like a fact?

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Re: CAPS i need to shut them off

said by beaups See Profile :

"The caps are in response to video competition to traditional video business models"

What is your source that caps are coming from video broadband competition? Or is that another opinion stated like a fact?
It is an opinion, but a logical one that makes sense.

BF69

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Free?

"According to a report in today's Wall Street Journal, both Time Warner Cable and Comcast are working with broadcasters on plans to deliver their customers TV programming via the Internet at no additional charge"

if all that 'free' tv is going to count against my cap it certainly won't be free.

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A few years ago...

Click for full size
... Comcast was trialing "Comcast Streaming Television"

Word is/was that employees were able to use it and it was supposed to be decent.
Never made it to you or I.

Maybe this will be the new-and-improved version?
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Re: A few years ago...

bahh probably windows only.

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Re: A few years ago...

Yes, IE only too!
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What about "The Fan"?


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Re: A few years ago...

said by moonpuppy See Profile :

What about "The Fan"?


No, actual TV as you would see on your set - channels and all.
Fancast has The Fan blown away - and it's Comcast owned too!
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Wow

yet another way to watch re-runs. Amazing. Is Friends on toilet paper yet?
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I can see maybe one use

Well, if it meant that I could watch my NHL Centre Ice while not at home, it might be cool. Though, I wouldn't pay (much) extra for the service - I'd hope that it was a viewing option for the cable I'd already paid for.
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said by nixen See Profile :

Well, if it meant that I could watch my NHL Centre Ice while not at home, it might be cool. Though, I wouldn't pay (much) extra for the service - I'd hope that it was a viewing option for the cable I'd already paid for.
Well you do know that the NHL has Gamecenter which is the online version of Center Ice. Which you can access that on any computer with an internet connection.

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said by BF69 See Profile :

said by nixen See Profile :

Well, if it meant that I could watch my NHL Centre Ice while not at home, it might be cool. Though, I wouldn't pay (much) extra for the service - I'd hope that it was a viewing option for the cable I'd already paid for.
Well you do know that the NHL has Gamecenter which is the online version of Center Ice. Which you can access that on any computer with an internet connection.
Only ever found the audio-casts.

Besides, that was but one example of content they *might* be able to offer.

With Cox, I can't run SlingBox (not without killing my cap). So, it'd be nice if I could get SlingBox type service and not have it count against my cap.
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Re: I can see maybe one use

said by nixen See Profile :

said by BF69 See Profile :

said by nixen See Profile :

Well, if it meant that I could watch my NHL Centre Ice while not at home, it might be cool. Though, I wouldn't pay (much) extra for the service - I'd hope that it was a viewing option for the cable I'd already paid for.
Well you do know that the NHL has Gamecenter which is the online version of Center Ice. Which you can access that on any computer with an internet connection.
Only ever found the audio-casts.
»https://gamecenter.nhl.com/nhlgc/secure/···|GCL:300

jeffhambone
Peace, through superior firepower

join:2002-02-02
Manassas, VA
·Comcast

No extra charge? Not in the long run, I'm sure...

"both Time Warner Cable and Comcast are working with broadcasters on plans to deliver their customers TV programming via the Internet at no additional charge"

Surely providing this service requires additional CAPEX for new equipment and continuing incremental increased OPEX for customer support and maintenance. So I guess they're going to cut into profit margin or cut executive bonuses to cover these costs?

I didn't think so.

I believe a better investment of "excess revenue" would be in fixing the existing customer service issues, rather than creating yet more services that require support.
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Son, there's only one thing you need to know: HEMI

ronmax

@verizon.net

Re: No extra charge? Not in the long run, I'm sure...

No extra Charage for the Service (wink, wink)

but will charge you $1 for every MB over the cap
Chaldo

join:2008-03-18
West Bloomfield, MI

Why cant everyone just sign a petition

to cut there damn internet off and then maybe the cable company would listen..

^^^ HAHAHA NEVER GONNA HAPPEN.

Varlik
Without Honor You Will Never Be Free
Premium
join:2002-01-06
Anderson, SC

1 More Step

Towards metered broadband. The real purpose of Caps is to condition us to rebel and fuss. Then the providers will eventually say ok ok we hear you it took us a while but now we'll give you what you want you can pay by the amount of bandwidth that you use.

baineschile
2600
Premium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI

Wait a second...

Is this going to go against the CAP
viperlmw
Premium
join:2005-01-25
·Qwest.net

cutting edge

"At the moment, this sounds like a belated attempt to appear cutting edge and capitalize on online video ad revenue by simply replicating existing online services."

Don't you mean 'off the hook'?
JusticeDun

join:2004-10-15
Okeana, OH

This is where TV was headed anyway

This is where TV is headed anyway. Just think, some day you'll be able to buy Comcast TV services over a Roadrunner connection and vice versa.

dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast

What Cap?

Remember people, TV has VERY little programming that's worth watching anyways.

Being internet dished out, they will likely have it optimized for the slower tiers of speed so those subs can watch it too.
You and I with the faster tiers will still skate under the 250GB radar.
Right now, I'm not even a blip on their radar.
What few TV shows I watch, won't magically bring me over the top.

I have "thousands" of options right now on Channel 1 Comcast - too bad there's nothing that interests me.

It will be no different online.
I'm online now and can get anything I can possibly want... but still cruising under 35GB per month.

Caps! Caps! ONOES!!1
:Yawn:
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Think outside the Fox... Opera

jadebangle
Premium
join:2007-05-22
Olathe, KS
·SureWest Internet
·AT&T Yahoo
·Comcast

Re: What Cap?

said by dadkins See Profile :

Remember people, TV has VERY little programming that's worth watching anyways.

Being internet dished out, they will likely have it optimized for the slower tiers of speed so those subs can watch it too.
You and I with the faster tiers will still skate under the 250GB radar.
Right now, I'm not even a blip on their radar.
What few TV shows I watch, won't magically bring me over the top.

I have "thousands" of options right now on Channel 1 Comcast - too bad there's nothing that interests me.

It will be no different online.
I'm online now and can get anything I can possibly want... but still cruising under 35GB per month.

Caps! Caps! ONOES!!1
:Yawn:
I'm sure if they want to look for user with heavy usage you'll be on their last list.

dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA

Re: What Cap?

LOL! Without a doubt!
qworster

join:2001-11-25
Los Angeles, CA
·DSL EXTREME
·Brand X Internet
·RoadRunner Cable
·Vonage

SEE? Combine this with CAPS and watch the playing field...

Most of us were right all along as to why these greedy companies were instituting caps! It has NOTHING to do with bandwidth issues-it has to do with their desire to tilt the playing field in their favor!

The coaxial 'last mile' is where any bandwidth problems would be, and this plan does NOTHING to relieve them.

Just another lie by the cable people-and another reason why 'net neutrality needs to happen!

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