Comcast: What Recession?Company continues strong growth in TV, Broadband and VoIP ( old news - 09:19AM Thursday Apr 30 2009) tags: competition · business · bandwidth · cable · ComcastTipped by JSRoman  Comcast issued their first quarter earnings this morning, which indicate the company added 288,000 digital video customers on the quarter, but lost 78,000 basic video customers. Broadband growth remains strong for Comcast despite the recession, the company adding 329,000 customers, bringing their total to 15.3 million. Comcast also continued strong growth on the VoIP front, the nation's third largest residential phone company adding 298,000 new customers to bring their VoIP -- sorry, Comcast Digital Voice -- total to a very respectable 6.8 million customers. Total revenue rose 5.3% to $8.84 billion, and the company posted a healthy net income of $778 million for Q1.
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sturmvogel
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| Re: No Political Arguments Please said by baineschile :How many articles are you reading on MSN and CNN on how to "trim the bills in this economic crunch"? One thing that is always on the list is cutting down, or out in some cases, Television. Kudos to UVerse, FiOS, and now Comcast for proving that people WANT TV and Internet, and are willing to cut out other amenities in their life. People do NOT want what CC provides, people have NO CHOICE and settle for the stuff that is available.
Many people, including me, cannot get FiOS or DSL, so we have to use CC. No, I do not WANT it, but I have no choice for the Internet access that I need.
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| Re: No Political Arguments Please I'm sure your right to a certain percentage. It would truly be an interesting study as to what people are using HSI for. A part of that question should be "are you actually the one paying for it?".
Comcast has done well by bundling all three services at a semi-fair price. Their HSI itself works great, it's when you have to have service to that HSI that turns out to be frustrating! | |
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| said by sturmvogel :said by baineschile :How many articles are you reading on MSN and CNN on how to "trim the bills in this economic crunch"? One thing that is always on the list is cutting down, or out in some cases, Television. Kudos to UVerse, FiOS, and now Comcast for proving that people WANT TV and Internet, and are willing to cut out other amenities in their life. People do NOT want what CC provides, people have NO CHOICE and settle for the stuff that is available. Many people, including me, cannot get FiOS or DSL, so we have to use CC. No, I do not WANT it, but I have no choice for the Internet access that I need. You are truly a stupid person. No wonder you have an Obama picutre | |
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| Re: No Political Arguments Please said by captain456 :
You are truly a stupid person. No wonder you have an Obama picutre
Thank you for the kind words. I should consider myself fortunate that the message was not more garbled by the misspelling while you were calling me names.
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| said by sturmvogel :People do NOT want what CC provides, people have NO CHOICE and settle for the stuff that is available. Many people, including me, cannot get FiOS or DSL, so we have to use CC. No, I do not WANT it, but I have no choice for the Internet access that I need. I can get DSL, but I WANT Comcast HSI.
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Cortland, NY | It might be that people have nothing else to do than watch TV since they have no jobs. I have a job so I trim my costs. If I was unemployed I'd bump up my channel lineup. | |
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sturmvogel
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1 edit | said by Matt :but aside from the financial industry and the car industry (that has always teetered on the brink of failure), the majority of other industries are doing just fine. This is further proof of that. Historically, this recession is no worse than ones we've experienced throughout history. Although it is creeping toward being one of the longest recessionary periods we've had, it's nowhere near being one of the deepest. Yes, since the financial industry not being too important, the fact that is just one that is not doing too well is not of concern. Hey, don't let a heart attack stop you, it is just one organ and all the others are doing fine separately. That leg twitching there looks really healthy and those teeth are blindingly white and shiny scattered all over the floor when we fell due to that small heart attack.
Yes, this recession is not worse than others. Maybe as it gets worse, we will hear is not at bad as the 1929 one, then as we pass that level, hey we are cool, we survived the 1929 one, so it is not that bad...
I still remember idiotic articles wondering in 2008 if we were really in a recession while most people were struggling.
Does disconnection from reality and short sightedness mean anything in your world ?
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| Re: No Political Arguments Please said by sturmvogel :Yes, since the financial industry not being too important, the fact that is just one that is not doing too well is not of concern. Hey, don't let a heart attack stop you, it is just one organ and all the others are doing fine separately. Yes, this recession is not worse than others. Maybe as it gets worse, we will hear is not at bad as the 1929 one, then as we pass that level, hey we are cool, we survived the 1929 one, so it is not that bad... I still remember idiotic articles wondering in 2008 if we were really in a recession while most people were struggling. Does disconnection from reality and short sightedness mean anything in your world ? FYI, I work in the financial industry. | |
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sturmvogel
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| Re: No Political Arguments Please said by Matt :said by sturmvogel :Yes, since the financial industry not being too important, the fact that is just one that is not doing too well is not of concern. Hey, don't let a heart attack stop you, it is just one organ and all the others are doing fine separately. Yes, this recession is not worse than others. Maybe as it gets worse, we will hear is not at bad as the 1929 one, then as we pass that level, hey we are cool, we survived the 1929 one, so it is not that bad... I still remember idiotic articles wondering in 2008 if we were really in a recession while most people were struggling. Does disconnection from reality and short sightedness mean anything in your world ? FYI, I work in the financial industry. Heh, if you think it is no big deal that it is in such shambles makes me wonder if you are in a leadership position ? How's that bonus ? Six figures ? Cool, all's well then !
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| Re: No Political Arguments Please said by sturmvogel :Heh, if you think it is no big deal that it is in such shambles makes me wonder if you are in a leadership position ? How's that bonus ? Six figures ? Cool, all's well then ! We lost several customers, but gained several more back. As I said, the recession is not as bad as most would have you believe. It is a bad recession, but depression-comparison worthy it is not. | |
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| said by sturmvogel :said by Matt :but aside from the financial industry and the car industry (that has always teetered on the brink of failure), the majority of other industries are doing just fine. This is further proof of that. Historically, this recession is no worse than ones we've experienced throughout history. Although it is creeping toward being one of the longest recessionary periods we've had, it's nowhere near being one of the deepest. Yes, since the financial industry not being too important, the fact that is just one that is not doing too well is not of concern. Hey, don't let a heart attack stop you, it is just one organ and all the others are doing fine separately. That leg twitching there looks really healthy and those teeth are blindingly white and shiny scattered all over the floor when we fell due to that small heart attack. Yes, this recession is not worse than others. Maybe as it gets worse, we will hear is not at bad as the 1929 one, then as we pass that level, hey we are cool, we survived the 1929 one, so it is not that bad... I still remember idiotic articles wondering in 2008 if we were really in a recession while most people were struggling. Does disconnection from reality and short sightedness mean anything in your world ? Maybe you're the idiot for not understanding that you can't know you are in a recession until you have already been in one for a minimum of 6 months. Maybe those articles aren't so idiotic for wondering something that was IMPOSSIBLE to know at the time. | |
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sturmvogel
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| Re: No Political Arguments Please said by captain456 :said by sturmvogel :said by Matt :but aside from the financial industry and the car industry (that has always teetered on the brink of failure), the majority of other industries are doing just fine. This is further proof of that. Historically, this recession is no worse than ones we've experienced throughout history. Although it is creeping toward being one of the longest recessionary periods we've had, it's nowhere near being one of the deepest. Yes, since the financial industry not being too important, the fact that is just one that is not doing too well is not of concern. Hey, don't let a heart attack stop you, it is just one organ and all the others are doing fine separately. That leg twitching there looks really healthy and those teeth are blindingly white and shiny scattered all over the floor when we fell due to that small heart attack. Yes, this recession is not worse than others. Maybe as it gets worse, we will hear is not at bad as the 1929 one, then as we pass that level, hey we are cool, we survived the 1929 one, so it is not that bad... I still remember idiotic articles wondering in 2008 if we were really in a recession while most people were struggling. Does disconnection from reality and short sightedness mean anything in your world ? Maybe you're the idiot for not understanding that you can't know you are in a recession until you have already been in one for a minimum of 6 months. Maybe those articles aren't so idiotic for wondering something that was IMPOSSIBLE to know at the time. I do happen to know what the DEFINITION of a recession is. However, trying to create questions for POLITICAL reasons regarding something that was obvious at the time given the RATE of financial collapse is hilarious.
Are we in a nosedive in this plane ?? Not at all, the definition of nosedive is 75 degrees for 2 minutes and we have been at 73 for only 110 seconds, what kind of idiotic question is that ???
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| | JPL
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| Except for one thing. Comcast LOST 78,000 video customers last quarter. They added alot of voice and HSI customers, and a healthy number of their customers went digital. However, they still continue to lose video customers - although at 78,000 the bleeding has definitely slowed for them (the lost over 400,000 video customers in the second half of 2008).
I think this all points to one trend - bundling sells. People really like having that option - which is why they added all those voip and hsi customers.
As for the comment about TV doing well in a recession because more people are home (due to lost jobs) and are therefore watching more TV... I think that misses the boat, to be honest. People substitute when times get tough. When times are good, they go out to dinner and a movie, or a play, a few times a month. That gets pricey (especially with a family - and as a father of 4 - soon to be 5 - I can't take my kids out to a movie without procuring financing first). As a result, people substitute. Instead of going to the movies, they rent... or they sign up for cable. I think that's what you're seeing. And I think the bundling really makes that an attractive option. | |
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Rick
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| WOW... Those are some impressive numbers.
300,000 new PHONE customers is unreal for one quarter.
And 329k new broadband customers?...that's hitting it out of the park.
It's amazing really how they have become the nations 3rd largest phone company..completely transforming themselves into that as well.
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| | JSRoman
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Callahan, FL | Re: WOW... More impressive is the number below.
Business Services- 47% increase in quarterly revenue to $176 million. | |
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Rick
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| Re: WOW... said by JSRoman :More impressive is the number below. Business Services- 47% increase in quarterly revenue to $176 million. impressive yes. But because it's coming off a much smaller base the percentage increase tends to be larger.
With the others you're talking about more mature businesses with many more customers. So those gains I think tend to be even more impressive.
In any event..they're really doing one helluva job all around I think.
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| I'm not surprised on Business Class Service products... the phone and internet offering is INCREDIBLE from comcast vs. telco who CONTINUES to rape business.
Comcast Business Class example:
1 DOCSIS 3.0 22/5 (Statics)
3 Dialtones - national service
---------------> $160.00 per month.
To a small business, that's an incredible savings over the average telco offering.
Qwest Comparable:
1 DSL 1.5/896 - $65.00 (No statics)
3 Dialtone - Local unlimited service $35.00 each
3 Long distance - Unlimited $35.00 each
(Does not include voice mail and only 3 calling features)
---------------> $275.00 per month. plus taxes up the butt
Comcast is tapping an under-served market that has long been way over charged. I've found on average, a 6 line phone service for a good sized small business often runs upwards of $550. One advantage that cable has over telco is that when you purchase your primary line with long distance, they all have it. Telephone charges you PER line still, which is absurd these days.
Like people call for cable to do, telco needs to evolve, but for some reason, won't. | |
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| Re: WOW... Be glad you live where they have their shit together. Here the best they can do is six megs. Six! On cable! AT&T has done that on DSL for five years. And no statics. Phone service is a crapshoot.
Here's what I pay AT&T:
Two phone lines, $44 ($27 and $17).
Two six meg DSL, $79 ($34 and $45).
With long distance, toll free number, busy call forwarding and regular call forwarding and the government's bundle of tax fun it comes to about $179. Even the Comcast cold-calling sales people say they can't beat it on this system. Too bad they just are not competitive in the business market here. | |
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join:2005-05-20 | Re: WOW... When you quote your services and prices.. is that for business??? or residential? It's that's business, that's not bad! | |
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baineschile
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Sterling Heights, MI | All that money... Lets get the 100/100 plan going already!!! Spend to upgrade
100 Hd stations
100/100 MB internet.
Seriously though, it just goes to show, that in hard times, people will still spend on TV and internet (and VoIP) | |
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Rick
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| Re: All that money... If comcast comes out with a 100Mb..$99 tier with their final d3 plans I just think it's all over for both uverse AND fios.
They will be everywhere so much sooner than the competition and it will be years in some cases where anyone can compete with that. They'll set a new standard nationwide and it's hard to see why anyone really would switch or what could be compelling enough about these other services to cause them to want to. Obviously that doesn't include people who have poor service for whatever reason but I'm talking about the majority of people and how it will impact these other companies.
What people aren't really realizing here is how expensive things like fios is to roll out. And how time consuming it is. And all the while they're losing these massive numbers of phone customers and dsl customers. The very heart of their companies is being eaten out from under them while they're spending massive amounts of money to try to replace it. And that is not a formula for business success. If anything..it's comcast who gets to grow stronger because of it and allows them unprecedented ability to then enter a price war when this is all said and done.
I've said it before and will say it again. Docsis 3.0 is to DDR what fios is to Rambus. Maybe fios is the better technology when it comes to the specs..but that doesn't mean they win the market race. Price and availability is what wins that. And if they're looking now at a nationwide d3 rollout by this year or next..it's going to be amazingly difficult to ever stop them.
And these numbers posted today just prove it once again.
It really is quite the business success story I think.
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Addison, IL | Re: All that money... What about the caps? When people start hitting their caps they will move to the service without them. | |
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| Re: All that money... said by blips :What about the caps? When people start hitting their caps they will move to the service without them. Comcast has shown though to be very responsive to that as well.
250 gigs compared to all we've read around this website is a HUGE number and really is there to stop the abusers from affecting the rest of us. And remember, that's with existing capacity and infrastructure.
When d3 is rolled out nationwide and higher speeds are the norm personally i'd suspect they'll be even more flexible.
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| Re: All that money... said by Rick :said by blips :What about the caps? When people start hitting their caps they will move to the service without them. 250 gigs compared to all we've read around this website is a HUGE number and really is there to stop the abusers from affecting the rest of us. ummmm... Hello, it's not about abuse. 
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sturmvogel
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| Re: All that money... said by hopeflicker :said by Rick :said by blips :What about the caps? When people start hitting their caps they will move to the service without them. 250 gigs compared to all we've read around this website is a HUGE number and really is there to stop the abusers from affecting the rest of us. ummmm... Hello, it's not about abuse. The "abusers" never affected any other users, just overall usage and maybe the revenue from CC's video business. The heavy users were targeted on a nationwide average usage model.
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sturmvogel
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| said by Rick :Comcast has shown though to be very responsive to that as well. Funny that "responsiveness" was caused by the Florida Attorney General.
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sturmvogel
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| said by Rick :When d3 is rolled out nationwide and higher speeds are the norm personally i'd suspect they'll be even more flexible. Without a doubt, don't let the fact that D3 users got "the call" about excessive usage shake your rosy suspicion of the Comcastic world.
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| said by Rick :really is there to stop the abusers from affecting the rest of us. Why, in 2009, is this even an issue? Maybe they should spend some of that advertising budget on advancing technology so one or two users can't kill the port.
But you can really parrot their PR machine. | |
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Sterling Heights, MI | Increased speed doenst mean increased volume.
Just because you buy a faster car, doesnt mean you will drive further in a month. | |
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sturmvogel
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1 edit | Re: All that money... said by baineschile :Increased speed doenst mean increased volume. Just because you buy a faster car, doesnt mean you will drive further in a month. Really ? Of course I would drive further, because it would use LESS time.
If I had to drive 3 hrs or one hr to reach a place WILL have an effect on my decision.
If we we would look at the longer trend, say between dial up and broadband access, surely increased speed did not mean increased volume. It is just that AVAILABILITY of speed without artificial caps brought us the Internet we have today. If short sighted policies driven by greed would have succeeded then, where would we have been technologically today ?
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ptrowski
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| Re: All that money... said by ptrowski :Over for uverse, possibly. Over for FIOS? Hardly. Why do you say that? JUST becuase it's "Fiber" service doesn't make Verizon's FiOS service anything special.
It's not ALL about the connection. Verizon still has a horrible rap for pricing, billing, customer service, and that they play games with their customer's services and what they can do with it.
Just becuase FiOS seems to be fairly straight forward, that's for now.. don't think for once moment that as they migrate people over to a FiOS offering that they will move the game to FiOS from their traditional services. Prices are already going up with FiOS.. and, well, people just don't forget how they were treated in the past by ANY provider.
To this day, I give Qwest/US West as LITTLE of my business as I have to. I have stand alone DSL with them and that's it! I'd much rather tie two cans and string together than use their dial tone ever again.
Further, when it comes to Verizon, stop and think with out blinders on for a moment. They treat their classic services one way. FiOS is under a whole other set of rules and pricing/offerings. Its the same company.. why do you think FiOS is treated any different? ... becuase they want to sell it. They're not being good guys and treating FiOS any different to be nice.. they're doing it to make it attractive, right now. In 10 years, lets have this talk and see how wonderful Verizon treats FiOS people. | |
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| Re: All that money... And I agree with what you said.
The thing that I'm still skeptical on is that we have all seen companies come out with one position which is popular at the time, and the flip sides down the road when opportunity served them well to do so.
I really don't think FiOS will remain un-metered for long after the rest of them do it, IF they do.
Verizon was also up there with trying to get "more money for using our pipes"... they don't have a pure innocent past. They also have the history of throttling and restricting the use on their wireless service.
I agree they are not at the moment, BUT, they have demonstrated that they are not incapable of doing the meter. Personally, I see that as a PR move on their part while it's convenient to do so. I trust no company on face value, not even comcast, not even cable.
But, I will 100% agree with you that Comcast has a LARGE way to go before I'd call their so-called "customer service" department.. "service".. With me, if the company I've been with and "loyal" to has treated me like crap, the other side will get a chance to keep my business. Once the other one treats me like crap, then I evaluate who treated me less crappily (If that's a word) and I stay with them.
Techies, for sure, will drool all over the fiber service> Many will go by price, value, and company reputation, I believe. At least for all the years I've had my hands on the products, and listening to people IN their homes and why they do things, both on the receiving and losing end, this is what I base my theory on. 15 years of that, and during the course of evolution of services, you tend to pick up on these things all the time. | |
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sturmvogel
Obama '08
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Houston, TX
| said by fiberguy :said by ptrowski :Over for uverse, possibly. Over for FIOS? Hardly. Why do you say that? JUST becuase it's "Fiber" service doesn't make Verizon's FiOS service anything special. It's not ALL about the connection. Verizon still has a horrible rap for pricing, billing, customer service, and that they play games with their customer's services and what they can do with it. Just becuase FiOS seems to be fairly straight forward, that's for now.. don't think for once moment that as they migrate people over to a FiOS offering that they will move the game to FiOS from their traditional services. Prices are already going up with FiOS.. and, well, people just don't forget how they were treated in the past by ANY provider. To this day, I give Qwest/US West as LITTLE of my business as I have to. I have stand alone DSL with them and that's it! I'd much rather tie two cans and string together than use their dial tone ever again. Further, when it comes to Verizon, stop and think with out blinders on for a moment. They treat their classic services one way. FiOS is under a whole other set of rules and pricing/offerings. Its the same company.. why do you think FiOS is treated any different? ... becuase they want to sell it. They're not being good guys and treating FiOS any different to be nice.. they're doing it to make it attractive, right now. In 10 years, lets have this talk and see how wonderful Verizon treats FiOS people. You have a good point. However, we have subpar service with bad pricing from Comcast now, let's worry about that instead of throwing mud on FiOS that at least tries to do something right for whatever (possible bad) ulterior motive.
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| | | Artec
join:2003-02-23
Middletown, NJ
| Comcast will over take FIOS with a 100mb tier? R u kidding me? In my neighborhood alone. at least 1/2 of the houses have gone to FIOS from comcast and a good part of those who I know who got it will NEVER GO back to comcraptic
Cable is dying unless they crap an get of the pot and move to fiber | |
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| Re: All that money... ... and I'd bet that half of those 1/2 of houses in your area don't even know what the difference between fiber vs coax much less what each are.
In your case, it's about reliability, which I will give FiOS service and reputation, which comcast has a bad on in Jersey. It's not about the fiber. That's just, well, it all just comes out one's arse! | |
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sturmvogel
Obama '08
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Houston, TX
| Re: All that money... said by fiberguy :... and I'd bet that half of those 1/2 of houses in your area don't even know what the difference between fiber vs coax much less what each are. In your case, it's about reliability, which I will give FiOS service and reputation, which comcast has a bad on in Jersey. It's not about the fiber. That's just, well, it all just comes out one's arse! That's right ! Why take a chance and go with something that everyone that uses says it is light years ahead and better ? Stay with the garbage you know is bad TODAY !
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join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
·VOIPo
| Uverse yes, FiOS no. FiOS may be slower, but in 5-10 years FTTH will be king, granted comcast may move to FTTH too you never know, if they did comcast would be un-stoppable once 200m-1000m connections are available at a decent cost. Once 100m is available to every comcast costumer I hope the up the caps, 250GB may be a lot but with 100m it is not as much as it used to be 500GB would work I think.
Telcos should have been rolling to FTTH 5 years ago. | |
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MalibuMaxx
join:2007-02-06
Chesterton, IN
·Comcast
| recession = entertainment ultimately thats what it comes down to...
And anyone with a rational judgement sees that paying a little more for a at home service is cheaper than going to the movies. Also gaming is big with the recession hit. Everyone wants to get out of their current situation so for a few hours they can with entertainment that comcast offers. | |
| | Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| Re: recession = entertainment the movies are a big thing. its 12 bucks a head to take people to the theater and that is before food and drinks.
with VOD its 4.99 and the food and drink is 30x cheaper at the supermarket. for the cost of a full load for a family of four at a movie theater you can buy a few movie nights of snacks and a few VODs to use up those snacks and still spend less then the movie theater.
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SLD
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join:2002-04-17 | Gotta do something... ...when you're sitting home, unemployed. | |
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Hpower
Roflmao
join:2000-06-08
Glendale, CA
·Charter Pipeline
| Re: Gotta do something... haha sooooooo true! Everyone uses broadband these days to do job searches  I remember when I was unemployed, I was just watching so many movies (including world of warcraft moveis) and especially playing a lot of world of warcraft online. Dialup gaming = death. Broadband = only way to go.
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MalibuMaxx
join:2007-02-06
Chesterton, IN | Re: Gotta do something... Not only job searches but if you want to apply... most jobs only do online resumes and apps. So if your trying to do that on dialup with secure sites good luck. I remember trying to do that when I had 56k. Near impossible... | |
| chronoss2009
join:2008-09-23
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| actually recession entertainment you have barely had a year of it and your crying what recession eh comcast, well those high caps helped you get through it and watch as those with the highest or unlimted are the ones that survive this .....
WRONG time dummmy turner to cap your people.
look at canada they all are losing money despite throttling us for 8 hrs a the day on a 5 megabit or higher account to 256Kbit ( 30Kbytes/sec max) if this is protracted as i figure the numbers will get worse and they will be in trouble having been so greedy....to not invest in capcity to get lessoned caps.
After almost a year and a half they can't say they haven't fixed it yet can they?
What excuse is there?
NONE
cya if the tariff comes through and that's the last money MY FAMILLY gives bell. | |
| | fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Re: actually recession entertainment Lol.. funny.
The recession has been in play longer than a year, or are you going by the "all is wonderful" rosy picture that he media is painting for you? Even the government has stated, in the US, that the recession has been going on longer than though. With that out of the way....
What's to say that if the Canadian providers DIDN'T cap services that they would have lost money too? It's great to look at only one side of a multi-sided argument, huh? And, that throttling method was in place in many countries for a long time.. albeit, many moved away from it, but stop and think. WHY were those caps in place to begin with? Because the networks didn't support anything other than that. Those countries started to build out and when they did, the restrictions were removed. But, you get now add in the consumer themselves. If they do not want to pay up for service, there is not going to be money to upgrade. This is why I long call for simply raising the base rate and pricing the service honestly. The bells in this country have been dropping the price of DSL for a long time, HOWEVER, it spurred the "Amazon and Google is using my pipes and we want more money!" argument. In the process of dropping the price of DSL, it sure looked good in marketing against cable. ... so who's expense did that come at? .. the consumer. There was no money to really make an honest attempt to upgrade the infrastructure and is why many telco providers still offer lackluster service as compared to cable.
Also, again, you can't compare Canada to the U.S. in this.. your economy is much different than the U.S. as is the general way of thinking and life up there. | |
| | rob316
join:2005-10-17
Carteret, NJ | Comcast Gauging Yea Comcast Gauge their customers for crappy service, that's how they made their money. | |
| | whiteyonenh
join:2004-08-09
Keene, NH
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·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Comcast Gauging said by rob316 :Yea Comcast Gauge their customers for crappy service, that's how they made their money. I hate to say it, but that's definitely debatable depending on the area. In NH, with Fairpoint buying out Verizon landlines, I know many people switching to Comcast to get away. With Fairpoint charging $52/mo for unlimited local/ld with callerid, callwaiting, and voicemail. Internet through fairpoint at $38/mo, and the billing fiasco of not being able to properly figure out how to integrate DirecTV onto the bill, even though they supposedly offer such. I recently had my grandmother switch over to Comcast for TV and Internet, threw her on Vonage for phone. For the same cost that she paid to Fairpoint and DirecTV she now gets Digital Preferred, Showtime, DVR, and 12/2 internet, along with Vonage. Fastest internet Fairpoint could offer her in her location was 1.5/384. | |
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@comcast.net
| said by rob316 :Yea Comcast Gauge their customers for crappy service, that's how they made their money. what a compelling argument | |
| chronoss2009
join:2008-09-23
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| what is a internet abuser let me take this commercial break to bring you ...intelligence.
YA know using what you are able to for what you have.
THAT folks means the people the USE there net and get the maximized value are the smart ones. GO talk to someone whom does a terabyte downloads , are they stupid retards out to destroy the net? Nope, they are doing for themselves what they are rightfully paying for and the company is the evil one that is in fact then penalizing everyone else with false advertising and propaganda.
Caps are a money maker , and a scam to boot.
Imagine caps on highways on your drive to work ( better not be late )
Imagine caps on school buses ( sorry we didn't buy enough buses you have to wait)
It becomes quite easy to see who is doing a better job at capacity based systems and it is not private business. IT in fact is govt that controls the cash er last mile in effect and may then sub contract out as long as you have the capacity to give customer what they in fact need and want. | |
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chronoss2009
join:2008-09-23 | correction fro :recession entertainment industry i put in the recession ( is less than sign and then greater then sign)
didn't show for some reason and then the seocnd post seems those symbols are not allowed | |
| Artec
join:2003-02-23
Middletown, NJ | backbone Say what you want about speeds when you own parts of the internet back bone Ie verizon or AT&T, its hard to compete | |
| | R62006
join:2006-05-03
Jacksonville, FL | Re: backbone The Power of Business MONOPOLY the COMCAST expertise trademark.
u cannot argue with that. | |
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