newviewEx .. Ex .. Exactly Premium Member join:2001-10-01 Parsonsburg, MD |
newview
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2003-Jun-2 9:22 pm
The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." | |
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Floppy
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2003-Jun-3 12:39 am
Re: The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitutionsaid by newview: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
They can do the following without ever setting foot in the house. After June 15, Comcast says it will begin house-by-house electronic monitoring of its cable systems to ferret out cable thieves. Comcast says it will aggressively pursue legal action against homeowners and businesses it catches stealing its signals. | |
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| | JTRockvilleData Ho Premium Member join:2002-01-28 Rockville, MD |
Re: The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. ConstitutionI sure hope you're right Floppy. But I'm a little suspicious, given the recent event in Colorado: Comcast cable guy ruins family's Seder | |
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Floppy
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2003-Jun-3 1:10 am
Re: The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitutionsaid by JTRockville: I sure hope you're right Floppy. But I'm a little suspicious, given the recent event in Colorado: Comcast cable guy ruins family's Seder
Oh yeah I read that story. IMO that tech was just being an spiteful jackass because they denied him access to verify if an illegal box was in place. Second it wouldn't have matter anyway, they weren't even cable subscribers; all he had to do was to verify if the traps were in placed at the pole. There was no reason for him to even go in their house. I really feel bad for the family. | |
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newview
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2003-Jun-3 7:11 am
The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. ConstitutionSo any "vindictive jackass" can visit » www.cabletheft.com/ , type in anybody's name that they may have a grudge against, and that gives the cable company the right to call the cops and enter your home without a warrant? This is exactly what the Fourth Amendment was written to prevent. | |
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| ergibbsTo Be Free
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Learn the laws before spouting the Constitution. The cable company owns the cable up to the ground block on a building; that gives them the right to inspect it at any time. They don't have to step foot in someone's house to verify whether or not the occupants are stealing cable; they can do it by inspecting the cable outside. | |
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| | imrf Premium Member join:2002-06-06 Utica, MI |
imrf
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2003-Jun-3 2:30 pm
Re: The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitutionsaid by ergibbs: The cable company owns the cable up to the ground block on a building; that gives them the right to inspect it at any time.
Actually no they dont.anything in or above your yard is considered yours.the cable companies only have lawful access to your easement which is a 3 foot radius around a electrical pole and/or ped box.i used to do auditing.they must gain permission by a homeowner BEFORE stepping foot onto your property,because then that said person is liable for anything they may happen to the property,i.e house coincidently burns down 5 minutes after he leaves,that person can be sued for trespassing. | |
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Re: The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. ConstitutionAs the former supervisor in the Audit department for a cable company, I can assure you that I, too, have done plenty of auditing. The company does not have to receive permission from the owner of the property prior to gaining access. The easement is the line that separates two properties; it is not the 3 foot radius around the pole or ped. Any equipment under the auspices of the cable company (or the electric company or the phone company) has to have an area of 3' clear at all times and the company can even remove any growth or vegetation that encroaches upon that area. The FCC mandates that the utility companies (although the cable company is not technically a utility, for the purposes of maintaining its equipment, it is granted special circumstances under the guidelines) is to have uninhibited 24 a day access to its equipment. It has the right - and obligation - to be able to inspect its equipment, including the cable up to and including the ground block, at any time. | |
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imrf
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2003-Jun-3 3:04 pm
Re: The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitutionyes but in order to get access to the easement they MUST have permission to walk into your backyard,or you neighbors.trust me, myself and friend have had the cops called on us for ,according to you, right of way into their yards.the police said that we do not have any right going into yards without permission. | |
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Re: The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. ConstitutionUnless there is a local franchise agreement prohibiting access, any utility company can access its equipment at any time without receiving permission. | |
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| | | | | | JTRockvilleData Ho Premium Member join:2002-01-28 Rockville, MD |
Re: The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. ConstitutionIn the case of the ruined Seder, the family had no drop. No ground block. No CPE.
They have a dish. | |
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Re: The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. ConstitutionYou're right - and with anything, you will always have someone take it to an extreme. I would bet money that he's no longer auditing cable. Life happens. | |
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| SmokeyI'd rather be skiing Premium Member join:2003-05-20 Wild West
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I must agree with the statement above that u must under stand the laws better. the 4th amendment only applies to the government it dose not apply to ANYONE else, other laws provide your privacy from the public, i.e. Trespassing | |
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panth1The Coyote join:2000-12-11 Port Saint Lucie, FL |
panth1
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2003-Jun-3 12:18 am
Good reporting..."Anyone using a cable box not provided by Comcast will also have the opportunity to turn it over to Comcast in exchange for a legal box." Let me help you out Jeff... Anyone using a cable box (to steal cable tv signals they do not subscribed to) not provided by Comcast will also have the opportunity to turn it over to Comcast in exchange for a legal box | |
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JTRockvilleData Ho Premium Member join:2002-01-28 Rockville, MD |
Comcast Auditing Central VA Too | |
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SmokeyI'd rather be skiing Premium Member join:2003-05-20 Wild West |
Smokey
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2003-Jun-9 6:11 am
Whats the Big Deal????Lets remember that these people are STEALING cable!!!!! I have no love loss for thieves. I pay $140.00 a month for my service, and I'm sick of paying to subsidies those who think they dont have to pay for the goods they want in life!!! (get them good Comcast!!!!!) | |
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| JTRockvilleData Ho Premium Member join:2002-01-28 Rockville, MD |
Re: Whats the Big Deal????Is everyone who lives in Comcast country, with or without a drop, going to be considered guilty until proven innocent?
While I don't have much faith in Comcast's accounting systems, the Comcast Legal Department is surely a formidable opponent. | |
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Smokey
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2003-Jun-9 5:57 pm
Re: Whats the Big Deal????what I meant this as was that there quest to stop the theft of there service is good. I dont necessarily support how they do that | |
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