Comcast's Usage Meter Hits Boston Slow deployment of meter continues... Back in October of 2008, Comcast implemented a 250 GB usage limit for all broadband subscribers. In December of 2009 Comcast finally released their usage meter, which allows users to track their consumption. The meter originally showed up in Portland, then showed up in Seattle and Spokane last month. Now users in our Comcast forum indicate that users near Boston are being informed that the meter is going live in their area as well. According to forum regular and Comcast Executive Director of Internet Systems Engineering Jason Livingood, the company isn't sharing their deployment schedule, though you'll get an e-mail shortly before the meter goes live in your neck of the woods.
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4 edits |  Downloaded over 800 gigs with AT&T DSL last month!
I have Comcast and AT&T DSL right now. I use comcast for gaming and dsl for downloads/torrents. | |
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| Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! said by inferno:I got AT&T DSL in December just to run torrents 24/7 and I used over 800 gigs of bandwidth in 31 days and they did not say anything... While Comcast terminates you for using 250 gigs a month... Good idea. Gaming barely uses much data. This sucks for comcast peeps. I hate the whole metered billing/usage idea.
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| | | | | Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! said by Hpower:Good idea. Gaming barely uses much data. This sucks for comcast peeps. I hate the whole metered billing/usage idea. Doesn't charter have only 60 gigs a month or something, or is that Cox cable? | |
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Austin, TX | Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! Only used 18 GB last month. Guess I'm not stealing enough music and movies. | |
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| |  TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
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NYC Metro | said by Hpower:said by inferno:I got AT&T DSL in December just to run torrents 24/7 and I used over 800 gigs of bandwidth in 31 days and they did not say anything... While Comcast terminates you for using 250 gigs a month... Good idea. Gaming barely uses much data. This sucks for comcast peeps. I hate the whole metered billing/usage idea. 250GB is more than adequate for the vast majority of users. If you're using more than 250GB/month, you are taxing the network to an extreme (especially on a hybrid-coax network like Comcast).... If you want to send / receive 800GB/month, you should be on a different type of connection.
If Comcast set the limit at 100GB/month, I would definitely be bitching... Otherwise, this seems quite fair.
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North Little Rock, AR | Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! Your argument makes no sense what so ever because if the people upgraded to a business account with a higher cap they would still be running on the same crappy hybrid network and on the same oversold nodes.
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| Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! But they do come with service-level agreements, like 95% of the advertised bandwidth and 40ms ping 95% of the time. If they can't meet it, they'll be forced by the contract to upgrade service so you get what you pay for- and they can't jack up your rate until the contract expires. | |
| | | | | | | | Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! said by ericn32:But they do come with service-level agreements, like 95% of the advertised bandwidth and 40ms ping 95% of the time. If they can't meet it, they'll be forced by the contract to upgrade service so you get what you pay for- and they can't jack up your rate until the contract expires. That is somewhat correct - Comcast business does NOT come with an SLA. | |
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kudos:3 | Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! "That is somewhat correct - Comcast business does NOT come with an SLA."
... could have fooled me.. My SLA with Comcast Business Class suits me just fine, thank you. | |
| | | | | | | | | | Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! said by fiberguy:"That is somewhat correct - Comcast business does NOT come with an SLA." ... could have fooled me.. My SLA with Comcast Business Class suits me just fine, thank you. Perhaps different markets?
But when I signed up they told me no SLA, now I am curious to see if I am getting ripped off. Do you pay extra for the SLA? | |
| | | | | | | | | fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3 | Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! No... I do not pay extra for the service level agreement.. it's part of the service. But, just because they may or may not offer it differently in different markets does not mean you're being "ripped off"... in order to be ripped off, you'd have to be offered something and NOT be getting it.. that's the raw definition of ripped off. This would be a case more of "Mom!!! Jimmy got a bigger piece of cake than I diiiiid...".. kinda the same as how they price HSI the same throughout the country... while some systems only had 6 meg, others had 8 for the same price... no one was getting ripped, they just sold it different in different markets.
Also, it may have something to do with your market. Here, and in other systems, they have established pretty good commercial technical divisions.. it may be that your area has yet to do that while others, like ours, have. In some markets, the residential techs still service business customers. It just takes time to re-tool a national business model is all. | |
| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! said by fiberguy:No... I do not pay extra for the service level agreement.. it's part of the service. But, just because they may or may not offer it differently in different markets does not mean you're being "ripped off"... in order to be ripped off, you'd have to be offered something and NOT be getting it.. that's the raw definition of ripped off. This would be a case more of "Mom!!! Jimmy got a bigger piece of cake than I diiiiid...".. kinda the same as how they price HSI the same throughout the country... while some systems only had 6 meg, others had 8 for the same price... no one was getting ripped, they just sold it different in different markets. Also, it may have something to do with your market. Here, and in other systems, they have established pretty good commercial technical divisions.. it may be that your area has yet to do that while others, like ours, have. In some markets, the residential techs still service business customers. It just takes time to re-tool a national business model is all. My rep told me flat out that there is no SLA. I feel it is kind of sneaky to tell me that when there is a SLA available. Although, I don't see it in the Comcast TOS which means you probably neogitated it into the contract. | |
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kudos:3 | Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! I'm in MN... you're in IL.. we're in two different markets. I didn't negotiate anything. | |
| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! said by fiberguy:I'm in MN... you're in IL.. we're in two different markets. I didn't negotiate anything. I just talked with Comcast corporate office, Comcast Business HSI does NOT have an SLA. Unless you are referring to the contract, which is NOT an SLA. An SLA is where they guarantee service x% of the time.
Comcast Business HSI is NOT guaranteed under an SLA. | |
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| | | | | | said by toddbs98:Your argument makes no sense what so ever because if the people upgraded to a business account with a higher cap they would still be running on the same crappy hybrid network and on the same oversold nodes. Actually, Comcast business is, supposedly, on another network.
And with Comcast Business there is no cap. | |
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kudos:3 | Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:said by toddbs98:Your argument makes no sense what so ever because if the people upgraded to a business account with a higher cap they would still be running on the same crappy hybrid network and on the same oversold nodes. Actually, Comcast business is, supposedly, on another network. And with Comcast Business there is no cap. Where are you getting that it's no another network? It's the same network.. sorry.. | |
| | | | | | | | | Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! said by fiberguy:said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:said by toddbs98:Your argument makes no sense what so ever because if the people upgraded to a business account with a higher cap they would still be running on the same crappy hybrid network and on the same oversold nodes. Actually, Comcast business is, supposedly, on another network. And with Comcast Business there is no cap. Where are you getting that it's no another network? It's the same network.. sorry.. Do you have different information? Please do share. | |
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1 edit | Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! You've proven nothing by posting that 'in your face' chat.. sorry. 
Asking some $8 per hour chat representative a question, and getting a very VERY vague answer to a very vague question (which is much bigger to what we're talking about based on the question of what a separate network is) doesn't change things.
Just because there is a different set of IP addresses doesn't make it a "different network".. especially in the context of what we're talking about.
The "network" is the same and does not effect the available data on the node.. (you need to apply what you're talking about based on the CONTEXT of the thread, and not what you're defining as network)... Yes, business class runs on a different "network" than residential. However, both services still run through the same "pipes"..
I dunno, but if I were you, I'd not be seeking technical answers from a chat representative.. That's like trying to ask the person who rings you up at the supermarket how their entire delivery chain works. | |
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NYC Metro | Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! said by fiberguy:You've proven nothing by posting that 'in your face' chat.. sorry. Asking some $8 per hour chat representative a question, and getting a very VERY vague answer to a very vague question (which is much bigger to what we're talking about based on the question of what a separate network is) doesn't change things. Just because there is a different set of IP addresses doesn't make it a "different network".. especially in the context of what we're talking about. The "network" is the same and does not effect the available data on the node.. (you need to apply what you're talking about based on the CONTEXT of the thread, and not what you're defining as network)... Yes, business class runs on a different "network" than residential. However, both services still run through the same "pipes".. I dunno, but if I were you, I'd not be seeking technical answers from a chat representative.. That's like trying to ask the person who rings you up at the supermarket how their entire delivery chain works. If it is running on a different 'network,' then it is running on a different frequency and thus the 'last mile bottleneck' should be less of a problem..
Of course, if Comcast has problems further upstream where the two networks are muxed together, then there is nothing that can fix it besides an upgrade to the backbones.
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| | | | | | | | | | | said by fiberguy:You've proven nothing by posting that 'in your face' chat.. sorry. Asking some $8 per hour chat representative a question, and getting a very VERY vague answer to a very vague question (which is much bigger to what we're talking about based on the question of what a separate network is) doesn't change things. Just because there is a different set of IP addresses doesn't make it a "different network".. especially in the context of what we're talking about. The "network" is the same and does not effect the available data on the node.. (you need to apply what you're talking about based on the CONTEXT of the thread, and not what you're defining as network)... Yes, business class runs on a different "network" than residential. However, both services still run through the same "pipes".. I dunno, but if I were you, I'd not be seeking technical answers from a chat representative.. That's like trying to ask the person who rings you up at the supermarket how their entire delivery chain works. Your proof is where?
I posted evidence to backup my statement and the most you can say is "your wrong because you didn't talk to the right person so therefore I'm right".
If you are going to make a claim, the least you can do is back it up, otherwise it is just a fallacy. | |
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NYC Metro | said by toddbs98:Your argument makes no sense what so ever because if the people upgraded to a business account with a higher cap they would still be running on the same crappy hybrid network and on the same oversold nodes. Simple.
If you need a business connection, you have options... They might not be cheap, but the free market provides.
No one is forcing you to use Comcast... And 250GB+ of usage is most likely going to be piracy, thus I don't see much reason for Comcast to pump millions of dollars into their network to upgrade it to allow YOU to download / upload 24X7...
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| | | | | said by Tzale:said by Hpower:said by inferno:I got AT&T DSL in December just to run torrents 24/7 and I used over 800 gigs of bandwidth in 31 days and they did not say anything... While Comcast terminates you for using 250 gigs a month... Good idea. Gaming barely uses much data. This sucks for comcast peeps. I hate the whole metered billing/usage idea. 250GB is more than adequate for the vast majority of users. If you're using more than 250GB/month, you are taxing the network to an extreme (especially on a hybrid-coax network like Comcast).... If you want to send / receive 800GB/month, you should be on a different type of connection. -Tzale Cool. Just point me to it, since Comcast happens to be the monopoly ISP in my area. | |
| | | | | | | Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! Comcast Business?
But then again, that's not really their problem is it? | |
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| | |  r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
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| said by Tzale:250GB is more than adequate for the vast majority of users. If you're using more than 250GB/month, you are taxing the network to an extreme (especially on a hybrid-coax network like Comcast).... If you want to send / receive 800GB/month, you should be on a different type of connection. If Comcast set the limit at 100GB/month, I would definitely be bitching... Otherwise, this seems quite fair. Nope.
Normal use of the internet could be watching streaming videos/TV which could easily reach 1TB a month especially if you have a multiperson household using the connection. Just think of all the people streaming the Olympics online right now.
Also, sorry to burst your bubble, but a network is not put to the extreme by how much you download per month. It is put to the extreme by your peak speed.
If you download 200GB at 25mbps you are hitting the network just as hard as someone downloading 1TB at 25mbps. A cap does not help with capacity of the network, it only prevents you from watching competing online video services.
By your reasoning that a cap limits the problems with the network then comcast only has a 768 kbps connection based on the 250GB a month cap.
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NYC Metro | Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! said by r81984:said by Tzale:250GB is more than adequate for the vast majority of users. If you're using more than 250GB/month, you are taxing the network to an extreme (especially on a hybrid-coax network like Comcast).... If you want to send / receive 800GB/month, you should be on a different type of connection. If Comcast set the limit at 100GB/month, I would definitely be bitching... Otherwise, this seems quite fair. Nope. Normal use of the internet could be watching streaming videos/TV which could easily reach 1TB a month especially if you have a multiperson household using the connection. Just think of all the people streaming the Olympics online right now. Also, sorry to burst your bubble, but a network is not put to the extreme by how much you download per month. It is put to the extreme by your peak speed. If you download 200GB at 25mbps you are hitting the network just as hard as someone downloading 1TB at 25mbps. A cap does not help with capacity of the network, it only prevents you from watching competing online video services. By your reasoning that a cap limits the problems with the network then comcast only has a 768 kbps connection based on the 250GB a month cap. The cap doesn't 'eliminate' the problem, but it STOPS people who are using the service to an extreme. The only other option would be throttling.. This would make more sense to curb stress on the network from people downloading / uploading at a high rate for long periods of time.. However, this would punish 'general' usage since I may need to download or upload a 10GB file every now and then too!
As long as Comcast openly advertises the fact that there is a cap, I am OK with it... You have to agree to it when you sign the contract... And for the vast majority of users, 250GB is more than enough. The minority needs to either get off the network or cut back on their high usage.
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1 edit | Re: AT&T DSL for downloads, Comcast for gaming! said by Tzale:said by r81984:said by Tzale:250GB is more than adequate for the vast majority of users. If you're using more than 250GB/month, you are taxing the network to an extreme (especially on a hybrid-coax network like Comcast).... If you want to send / receive 800GB/month, you should be on a different type of connection. If Comcast set the limit at 100GB/month, I would definitely be bitching... Otherwise, this seems quite fair. Nope. Normal use of the internet could be watching streaming videos/TV which could easily reach 1TB a month especially if you have a multiperson household using the connection. Just think of all the people streaming the Olympics online right now. Also, sorry to burst your bubble, but a network is not put to the extreme by how much you download per month. It is put to the extreme by your peak speed. If you download 200GB at 25mbps you are hitting the network just as hard as someone downloading 1TB at 25mbps. A cap does not help with capacity of the network, it only prevents you from watching competing online video services. By your reasoning that a cap limits the problems with the network then comcast only has a 768 kbps connection based on the 250GB a month cap. The cap doesn't 'eliminate' the problem, but it STOPS people who are using the service to an extreme. The only other option would be throttling.. This would make more sense to curb stress on the network from people downloading / uploading at a high rate for long periods of time.. However, this would punish 'general' usage since I may need to download or upload a 10GB file every now and then too! As long as Comcast openly advertises the fact that there is a cap, I am OK with it... You have to agree to it when you sign the contract... And for the vast majority of users, 250GB is more than enough. The minority needs to either get off the network or cut back on their high usage. How much you download is not the extreme that burdens the network.
How fast you download is the extreme that congests the network.
There is no majority, there is no minority. Everyone uses the internet for different things and thus has different downloading requirements. There is no such thing as predicting what average use will be.
All you can tell is what an individual did in the past, not what they will do in the future.
If ISP's truely have congested networks they need to slow down their speeds.
Caps are only used to prevent you or me from using online video instead of paying for cable.
I just moved to Houston and I am trying to go without using Cable TV.
I watch online streams of CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, Discovery, TLC, History, and a few other channels. Any other show I want to watch I watch on Hulu or download. I also watch OTA tv.
My usage is normal for me. Just like your usage might be normal for you. But there is no way you can compare my or your usage to any other ISP customer. Everyone uses their connection for different things.
For you to say you never go over X GB a month so no one else should is pretty stupid. I bet I can find someone that only use 2GB a month and will think your usage is excessive and not normal.
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| | | | said by Hpower:Good idea. Gaming barely uses much data. This sucks for comcast peeps. I hate the whole metered billing/usage idea. only when you don't have to download gig + updates. | |
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Seattle, WA | I have no idea where the bandwidth hunger comes from. I have a 50/10 from comcast and a usage meter. Here is my usage:
1. IPTV from ethnic TV network, daily streams at 600KB for 4-6 hours
2. Netflix TV shows, also daily, 1-4 episodes, some HD, per day
3. Work via tunneling, daily
4. Some gaming, daily
5. No torrents: no need. No direct movie download, no need, streaming is fine and economical. If I want a BD I will go rent one.
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| TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
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NYC Metro | Re: Downloaded over 800 gigs with AT&T DSL last month! said by inferno:I got AT&T DSL in December just to run torrents 24/7 and I used over 800 gigs of bandwidth in 31 days and they did not say anything... While Comcast terminates you for using 250 gigs a month... I have Comcast and AT&T DSL right now. I use comcast for gaming and dsl for downloads/torrents. Seems like a waste of money to me... What could you possibly gain from sending / receiving 800GB of data? Hopefully you're using some sort of proxy on your BT connection since the RIAA / MPAA will come knocking soon if you keep it up (assuming you are sending / receiving copyrighted material).
Don't get me wrong. I'm a broadband geek also and almost cream my pants thinking about bandwidth usage (we're weird people, aren't we?)...
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1 edit | said by inferno:I got AT&T DSL in December just to run torrents 24/7 and I used over 800 gigs of bandwidth in 31 days and they did not say anything... While Comcast terminates you for using 250 gigs a month... I have Comcast and AT&T DSL right now. I use comcast for gaming and dsl for downloads/torrents. I have downloaded over 2 TB (2,000 GB) of data with Time Warner Cable residential in a month... not a peep from them.
Also upload an average of more than 300 GB of data monthly. There's lots of "Linux ISOs" to push around, don't ya know?
The grass ain't lookin' so green over there in Comcast land... sucks to be you guys... 
It's probably the most definitive proof out there that the "bandwidth crunch" is a myth... because with all my constant downloading/uploading, I never see any major speed decreases. I always get around my connection's rated speed.
Surely Time Warner's not giving all my heavy usage priority over my neighbors? You'd think if it was affected other people... I'd notice a shared speed decrease as my traffic had to compete with their traffic to squeeze through the same pipe. Yet... nothing. | |
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Denver, CO | Just curious, but assuming you're downloading 800 GB a month, when do you have time to watch all that stuff? We're talking over a thousand movies a month. On top of gaming.
Do you sleep? Or are you unemployed? Seriously...I have trouble fitting in an hour or so of TV at the end of the day.
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| | | said by inferno:I got AT&T DSL in December just to run torrents 24/7 and I used over 800 gigs of bandwidth in 31 days and they did not say anything... While Comcast terminates you for using 250 gigs a month... I have Comcast and AT&T DSL right now. I use comcast for gaming and dsl for downloads/torrents. Hmmm....
800GB of bandwidth?
Either you are hosting wiki leaks, or you are doing something that isn't legal. Either way, the *average* user shouldn't have a problem with 250GB.
If you seriously use that much bandwidth in a given month, why don't you just get a something like T1/T3 service from speakeasy or an OC hookup? At 800GB/month it only begs that question. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: compare usage DD-WRT is a few percent less than Comcast from what I hear, probably due to the difference between a GiB and a GB. | |
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has anyone compare comcast usage to dd-wrt usage? over/under?
I personally found the DD-WRT WAN Usage meter to be terribly unreliable. The pfSense meter is considerably more reliable, especially with vnstat. | |
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Glen Head, NY | Happy! I am happy I have Optimum Online and a company that is actually opposed to the idea of caps and meters.
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join:2002-11-27 | Re: Happy! said by n2jtx:I am happy I have Optimum Online and a company that is actually opposed to the idea of caps and meters. Yeah, if only they could get their speeds above 2Mbps during peak time it would be even better. | |
| | TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
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NYC Metro | said by n2jtx:I am happy I have Optimum Online and a company that is actually opposed to the idea of caps and meters. That's not true. They used to 'cap' people all the time who were uploading too much and deny the cap to the user when they called up. Prior to that, they were terminating users who upload too much. They also experimented with a period (which is / was well documented on this site) where they were throttling users for a set period of time if they used too much bandwidth in an hour or two. Only after FIOS started giving them a run for their money did they come out with Boost (the premium plan) and basically allow anyone to do what they want on the network....
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kudos:2 | Re: Happy! We're talking about now, not three years ago. OOL is uncapped (Boost is uncapped on speed as well as on transfer) though if you don't like evening slowdowns then go elsewhere. | |
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1 edit | Re: Happy! said by iansltx:We're talking about now, not three years ago. OOL is uncapped (Boost is uncapped on speed as well as on transfer) though if you don't like evening slowdowns then go elsewhere. Yeah, and he stated it as though CV / OOL NEVER considered capping / throttling / terminating users for intense use of their network. The ONLY reason why they offer what they do today is because they're losing subscribers to FIOS left and right. BOOST came about as an answer to FIOS... They have no choice to keep a competitive edge.
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| | | said by n2jtx:Optimum Online [...] a company that is actually opposed to the idea of caps and meters. That's a fallacy, lol... | |
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New York, NY | meh That really sucks. I've been running my fios for almost 1yr 24/7 downloading/seeding torrents for total of TB's of data lol. | |
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|  Augustus IIIIf Only Rome Could See Us Now....
join:2001-01-25
Gainesville, GA | heh i dont think i'll ever look at it.
if they have a problem with something, they are free to send somebody up from their local office.
business as usual i always say. | |
| Reviews:
·Charter
| Charter has a 500gb cap for their 20/2 tier in my area Yea, 250 seems a bit low, as i am a heavy gamer and my typical usage for JUST gaming is about 300gb a month. Most internet games use the available bandwidth to the maximum to reduce server ping times. This means that if i have 20mbps down and 2mbps up, WoW, AION, CoD, ect. will use all the available upload and 80% of the download(I have a usage meter software that logs this stuff on my laptop, so i know how much I'm using).
I have gone over this cap several times, but the worst consequence i got was a call saying that i was over the bandwidth cap for the billing period, and that my service would be degraded until the next billing period took effect(which was only 2 days, so i didn't care).
I think that usage caps are stupid because tier 3 providers and end users pay for their access differently.
Tier 2 and 3 providers pay by the AMOUNT of data passed thru their providers
End users are paying for certain speeds
This makes no sense to me, as if i were to pay by my usage, my bill would be far cheaper, as charter only pays something like $0.05 or $0.06(i think, i cant find my source article for this anymore, but it was recent, so if anyone can confirm, please do) per Gigabyte of data that is generated on their network.
So, i pay $60 per month for a 500GB limit, and that means that means I'm paying DOUBLE price for it. So, it only makes sense to use what I pay for, and I will always make sure that I use all of my cap because that way, they aren't making very much, or any, money on me.
I think that broadband is WAY overpriced for what i get, when i can move 200 miles south and get a 100/100 for what i pay now. It is ludicrous what charter charges, and there is no competitors with good enough speeds available in my area for me to switch to, so i will continue to make it hard for charter to make money on my account.
On a side note: for those who think that gaming dosen't use much bandwidth hear this:
I went to Verizon Wireless to "try out" a wireless laptop connect card. I asked what the monthly cap was, and they said 5GB. I played World of Warcraft for 5 hours and had eaten thru that entire amount of allotted data in that short time. I know because the card was kicked from the network, and then I got a call from a rep saying that i had used my allotted data, and that i would have to pay for "extra" data to get my service restored.
needless to say, i brought it back to the store the next day, and after explaining what happened, i didn't have to pay anything at all because i wasn't satisfied with the service.
The moral of this story: GAMING uses as much or more data than almost every internet driven program or app. DO NOT BE FOOLED into thinking that gaming isn't a data intensive internet user, as it IS. | |
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| | don't buy it don't buy it cap's are load of crap get some one better or move to get some one better I hear cap and I am gone I can live with out it any way ..can you? fios | |
|  TMMerlinThe Devil made me do it
join:2003-06-19
Oxford, MI
·EarthLink
·AT&T U-Verse
| AT&T U-Verse .... ! I have a "clean set up" .. absolutely error free with the exception of maybe a few DSL corrected blocks which is pretty normal [otherwise they would not correct the blocks].
IPTV ..solid ..no issues
VOIP .. clean..clean ..clean !
6 - Meg Internet .. I hammer away at NetFlix all day long as I like the older movies and TV shows. WE dropped the premium channels and that difference pays for the 6-Meg Internet.
CAPS ..what are CAPS ..who cares .. it's only important on a system like Comcast to begin with and they are only doing that to brainwash the customers as they implement their plan for "pay as you go" ... in 6-months they will most likely drop the caps to 200 ..then 150 ..then 100 and charge you more..more..more ..
The BRAINWASHING lives and the lobbyist in DC make money and Comcast makes even more money.
Just like the Cell Carriers ....want that nifty smart phone they say ? Hand over another $30/mo.....Oh ...yah ..it was free 3-months ago .. then they "capped everybody" and added the $30 bucks....!!
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Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy but they become legend. | |
| Reviews:
·AT&T DSL Service
·Virgin Mobile Br..
| 192gb My router monitors both outgoing and ingoing data and my average last month was 192gb using 3 computers, 1 XBox360Live, 1 PS3 Networked, 3 VOIP, 3 teens doing their downloading thing and 1 adult doing small amounts of downloading but watching a lot of video streams.
Just from my point of view, 250gb is a very reasonable amount considering how much data we use in this house. My only concern is will Comcast measure my bandwidth in the same way my router does. | |
| | | Comcast usage meter deployment So I got an email from Comcast about 10 days ago saying it was now available here a little north of Boston. However, it isn't there. I actually went on line and asked about it and they opened a ticket almost a week ago and of course have no idea what to do. I checked on it yesterday and was told they are still looking into it. | |
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