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| Don't Make Me Laugh said by Karl Bode:What's next, the recording industry realizing that music piracy is impossible to stop, thereby turning albums (whether the industry likes it or not) from product to promotion material for concerts and merchandising? Have the pigs started flying yet? | |
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 |  spamdPremium join:2001-04-22 Cherry Valley, IL | Re: Don't Make Me Laugh said by Hazy Arc:said by Karl Bode:What's next, the recording industry realizing that music piracy is impossible to stop, thereby turning albums (whether the industry likes it or not) from product to promotion material for concerts and merchandising? Have the pigs started flying yet? Not yet, but I think they are taxing for take off. I hope. | |
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 |  |  Rob_Premium join:2008-07-16 Mary Esther, FL | Re: Don't Make Me Laugh why? the pigs don't care about themselves.. all they care about is controlling the masses.
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| The reality Is that records are just promotional items now. With the piracy that goes on record sales have tanked.
Artists make thier money touring and with merchandise.
Watch the record industry sign future artists and demand a piece of the touring action | |
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 |  MrWhippitYou Big Dummy Gimmie Back My BandwithPremium join:2002-04-04 Marlton, NJ | Re: The reality 360 deals.
Already a reality | |
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 |  OmegaDisplaced OhioanPremium join:2002-07-30 Cheyenne, WY | said by elwoodblues:Is that records are just promotional items now. With the piracy that goes on record sales have tanked. Artists make thier money touring and with merchandise. Watch the record industry sign future artists and demand a piece of the touring action Although I am sure piracy has impacted sales, I think it is a minor player. Lets put it this way, a CD costs $10-20, on average. Now with that CD I get maybe an hour of music.
Or I could spend $15 and get a DVD with a 2 hour movie loaded with hours of bonus features.
Or I could cough up a bit more money and get a video game that will give me endless hours of entertainment.
For the price vs entertainment ratio, CDs are the losers. | |
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 |  |  KearnstdElf WizardPremium join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: The reality said by Omega:said by elwoodblues:Is that records are just promotional items now. With the piracy that goes on record sales have tanked. Artists make thier money touring and with merchandise. Watch the record industry sign future artists and demand a piece of the touring action Although I am sure piracy has impacted sales, I think it is a minor player. Lets put it this way, a CD costs $10-20, on average. Now with that CD I get maybe an hour of music. Or I could spend $15 and get a DVD with a 2 hour movie loaded with hours of bonus features. Or I could cough up a bit more money and get a video game that will give me endless hours of entertainment. For the price vs entertainment ratio, CDs are the losers. thats the thing on average a CD semi new release is around 15 bucks. it just so happens World of Warcraft costs me 15 bucks a month and gets much more use then a CD will. even if i bought one CD a month, the entertainment dollar ratio cant match my WoW subscription. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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 |  bear73Metnav... Fly The Unfriendly SkiesPremium join:2001-06-09 Grand Forks Afb, ND | said by elwoodblues:Is that records are just promotional items now. CDs have ALWAYS been promotional items... for the artists. The recording companies take such a huge cut of CD sales... bah, don't get me started... and the recording companies already get a substantial cut of tours in that the bands owe so much to the companies that it takes a tour or 3 to get them into the clear. -- If ya gotta go, Go with a SMILE! »www.thereligionofpeace.com/ | |
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 quatrixPremium join:2005-02-11 Davie, FL kudos:2 | Why are you guys trying to twist this into a bad thing? Funny how you put "piracy" in quotes. So companies complain when you steal their intellectual property but are okay with it if they're paid accordingly. What exactly is wrong with that? That's how business works. | |
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 Quake110Premium join:2003-12-20 Ottawa, ON | Viacom, do you feel like an idiot yet? I think pigs are going to start flying very soon while Viacom is stuck with a donkey. | |
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 dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA kudos:18 | DUH! DVD quality video vs some pixelated YT video. 1.5 - 2 hours of movie vs ~10 minute clips of a movie. 20 - 40 minutes of a TV show vs ~4 minute clips of that TV show.
At some point, the producers need to let it go. No way they can seriously think that some POS YT clip is "piracy". 
Corporate Greed and Anal Retentiveness.
»media.putfile.com/Meet-The-Spartans-Clip -- Think outside the Fox... Opera | |
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 |  markofmayhemI can haz competition?Premium join:2004-04-08 Pittsburgh, PA kudos:4 | Re: DUH! Got to agree with this one... a YT clip should be viewed as free advertising. The major problem is that free advertising is BAD for 90% of the junk movies out there today. A 30 second to 1 minute trailer commercial may suck you in. Watching a good 20 minute poor quality video clip may let your realize that the only good parts of the movie were in the that 1 minute trailer and even if the quality was better the movie still sucks ....
Pulling ad revenue from Google will shut these uploads down faster than threatening lawsuits to the uploaders. The best way for a company to get what it wants is to take money away from another company, not people. | |
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 |  | | said by dadkins:DVD quality video vs some pixelated YT video. 1.5 - 2 hours of movie vs ~10 minute clips of a movie. 20 - 40 minutes of a TV show vs ~4 minute clips of that TV show. At some point, the producers need to let it go. No way they can seriously think that some POS YT clip is "piracy".  Corporate Greed and Anal Retentiveness. » media.putfile.com/Meet-The-Spartans-Clip I agree. Universal Music lets people make their own clips. Free advertising. You would think that blogs influence movies and music so why not fan created video clips?
Music needs to learn FANS make the industry not lawyers. I own bootleg concert videotapes. Why? THEY WERE TOO STUPID TO RECORD IT AND SELL IT!  -- Saving the world keeps me busy. However, I find Earth very primitive from my home planet of Krypton. -Supergirl | |
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 | | Hell is lowering in temperature dramatically.It's freezing Seriously, most shocking news of the week. Apparently suing the hell out of your customers for not being the brightest on copyright laws is not their business model anymore. The music industry and the MPAA saying that downloading was stealing when it is not. It is copyright infringement but they are very different things. | |
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 TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium join:2004-01-06 NYC Metro | ....
As long as it is free for me, I could care less what YouTube and the media companies setup as a deal between themselves. Leave it the way it is, and I'm happy.
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 1 edit | About time.. Well, in this case, the companies are stuck in a rock and a hard place.
From what I understand...if you have a property, and go years without prosecuting someone who uploads it to youtube....or starts selling it, or does anything else to it without your permission..it'll be tougher to win a court case against someone who really does some damage.
but I'm glad to see that companies are starting to notice that uploading to youtube does no real harm. If anything, if a company owns a property that they don't think will be a hit on DVD...well, all they have to do is see how many people find it un-advertised on youtube and that should be a bit of a clue right there as to how well it might sell..
And people will still buy...especially if it's a well done package and produced product. I.E. No syndication cuts, no unstoppable menus and adds, etc.
It also saves the company some time....not to mention staff money if they where to do something similar on their own website.. | |
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| I think they're spinning it for investors They figured out they can't sue YouTube out of existence. So it came down to the cost of getting all their clips removed, or the cost of not getting all their clips removed. Not removing them was a better business decision, not counting the ad revenue. The ad revenue is how they save face. | |
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