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Congress Pushing Flurry of Awful 'CyberSecurity' Bills
Privacy Rights Destruction One Bogeyman Bill at a Time
by Karl Bode 10:28AM Wednesday Apr 04 2012
Techdirt takes a look at a new cybersecurity bill (HR 3523) that's being rushed through Congress that would permit ISPs to funnel private communications back to the government with minimal if any privacy protections and controls. The website points to this chart by the ACLU of all cybersecurity bill efforts (pdf) currently underway, most of which are designed to retroactively legalize illegal things the government and companies are already doing -- all by using the bogeyman. The EFF is taking particular aim at CISPA, which they say allows companies to "spy on users and share private information with the federal government and other companies with near-total immunity from civil and criminal liability."

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Noah Vail
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Hey, Elections are coming up.

Which Congressional / Presidential candidates won't sell out our liberties once elected?
W16

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Re: Hey, Elections are coming up.

They all will. In one form or another. 'Tis the system the Western world has built itself upon.
easonin
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I can think of one presidential candidate that won't!
You know who he is!
Ron Paul!
»ronpaul2012.com/
Desdinova
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Re: Hey, Elections are coming up.

Yup. Gotta agree.
sandman_1

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Re: Hey, Elections are coming up.

Gotta 2nd that. Unfortunately there are too many sheep out there that believe anything coming out of these politicians' mouths.

ArrayList
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let me know how this works out for ya.
easonin
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Re: Hey, Elections are coming up.

Well yea, there are not so smart people out there that don't vote based on principle, if they have any at all, and will take Faux Nooz's rubbish as the gospel. It doesn't surprise me. However, if these same people would take 10% of their TV time and devote it to researching their candidates of choice, they would quickly change their tune.
So you too will just go along to get along, eh?
sad.
What's popular, isn't always right, and what's right isn't always popular.
W16

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Re: Hey, Elections are coming up.

The people get the government they deserve...or, some such thing.

PapaMidnight

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Beat me to the punch on this one...

DataRiker
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said by easonin:

I can think of one presidential candidate that won't!
You know who he is!
Ron Paul!
»ronpaul2012.com/

100% agreed.

I love Ron Paul.
gorehound

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Do not count on a GOP or Democrat to protect your Rights.
Next Election we had better have an Alternate Party so we can all work together to get our Rights BACK !!!
And sorry I will not Vote for Ron Paul who deep inside is a Conservative Bigot and should not be looked at as someone who will be your Savior.
We need a real Savior.Who believes in EQUAL Rights to All no matter your Religion,Color, or Sexual Preference.RP is not that shining knight.
easonin
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Re: Hey, Elections are coming up.

That is a wonderful idea!! But, in this year, who's that going to be?? The clock is ticking. And show us proof that he is a bigot. You can't. You can only point to this or that, but nothing has been proven. And besides, even if he was a bigot, I personally do not care. Since he's smart enough to "hide" it this long in his career, 4 possible years won't make him want to bring it out now.
And conservative? What does that really mean? Nothing. Just look at his record, he's definitely got principles.
One more question, of all the candidates, who would be the best option to help "get our rights back"? Answer honestly! It's okay, you can keep it to yourself!
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dvd536
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said by Noah Vail:

Which Congressional / Presidential candidates won't sell out our liberties once elected?

They're all crooks!
rdmiller

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What rights?

We now have a Constitutional Right to be strip-searched for a traffic violation! Thanks, guys!
aguen
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Re: What rights?

said by rdmiller:

We now have a Constitutional Right to be strip-searched for a traffic violation! Thanks, guys!

I was going to make note of this as well but want to add that it wasn't congress that enabled this, instead it was the conservative controlled Supreme Court that said it was Ok.

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Re: What rights?

It's the only way to protect our short bald cops with attitudes from the dangerous people who have weapons and drugs strapped to their genitals.
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That and Corporations are people too. They screwed us over on that one also.

Dr Demento
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said by aguen:

said by rdmiller:

We now have a Constitutional Right to be strip-searched for a traffic violation! Thanks, guys!

I was going to make note of this as well but want to add that it wasn't congress that enabled this, instead it was the conservative controlled Supreme Court that said it was Ok.

OT: Am I all for the violation of civil liberties but the case you're referring to pertains to people who turned over for custody (as in a county jail or local precinct) can be thoroughly searched for packing heat or other contraband for minor offenses. This is primarily targeted for those arrested for DUI. So once you under arrest and in custody the police or jail warden should have probable cause to search for their safety.

As for CISPA and HR. 3523, where is a Wikipedia blackout and Google alert banner when you need it?
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Re: What rights?

Any arrestable offense. will be eligible for the strip searches, but where it goes from there is the next question. The person who sued the government over getting stripped searched was pulled over and had a very old warrant the system was saying was unpaid. He carried proof it was paid because its happened before, he was locked up multiple days and strip searched twice before they figured out he really did pay the warrant off years ago. (he was innocent)

You already get strip searched in prison, this is to allow the local guy to strip search you when he throws you into his smaller more local lock up. (without having a good reason)

sorry to go OT but both thte topic and this show that congress and the supreme court is taking away any right to privacy we once had. Our kids will never taste the freedom we did and its at our hands they are losing it.

TheHelpful1
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Re: What rights?

What freedom do you speak of? I must fix post for you.

said by slckusr:

Sorry to go OT but both thte topic and this show that congress and the supreme court is taking away [the fictional] right to privacy we once had. Our kids will [only grow up knowing the cold truth and] never taste the [illusion of] freedom we did and its at our hands they are losing it.


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Wilsdom

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No, it's not for safety, since a pat down takes care of that. It's about humiliating innocent people so that the narcotics prohibition industry doesn't miss one gram. The police are now hostile to people of America: act accordingly.
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As long as....

As long as it's the United Corporate States of America, this is what we should expect.

FFH
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Very low probability this bill goes anywhere

This was out of committee Dec 1, 2011 and has gone nowhere for over 4 months. The web site that tracks these things only give it a 13% chance of proceeding further. The House has much higher priority issues on the schedule that haven't been dealt with yet. Given this is an election year, the probability this dies at end of current Congress in December is high.

»www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr3523

We think this bill has a 13% chance of passing Congress.

Anyone interested in reading the ACTUAL bill can read it here:
»www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/1···523/text



And the sharing is being mis-characterized. It is FROM the gov't to private companies - NOT the other way around. Meaning the government see a potential attack against private companies(for example water, electric, nuclear, gas, etc) and provides them with info to help fend off the attack.
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Skippy25

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Re: Very low probability this bill goes anywhere

Well that is somewhat good news then.

If it is to go gov to private then they dont need it. If the gov is already investigating a crime they can continue to carry that over on their investigation while involving the parties that need to be involved with pertinent information needed to investigate the crime.
MTU
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Choices

How long do you think ANY 'President' would last if they chose to challenge the trillion-dollar, getting ever more powerful, security enterprise?

TheHelpful1
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Re: Choices

said by MTU:

How long do you think ANY 'President' would last if they chose to challenge the trillion-dollar, getting ever more powerful, security enterprise?

You misunderstand government my friend. If business is that big, they would appoint a Cyber Czar and consume/police this industry for your safety and benefit....

Oh wait...
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