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A sign of things to come, or just early coincidence?
04:24PM Monday Oct 12 2009 by Karl Bode
tags: coverage · business
The first round of NTIA grants doled out to states to map U.S. broadband were notable more for who wasn't chosen than who was. Most consumer advocates have been talking about the fact that telco-tied Connected Nation wasn't among the first round of grant recipients. The group has been under fire for several years for being an ingenious telco-funded ploy to actually shine up broadband penetration stats while keeping carrier data out of the hands of independent auditors -- all under the guise of improving broadband mapping. Telecom blogger and muni-broadband watcher Craig Settles had this to say:
The conventional wisdom, driven in large part by incumbent telcos and cable companies, is that you can't get good broadband mapping data unless service providers (incumbents) give it to you. And because incumbents don't want to give you the data you need, this mapping process has to be tedious, expensive and nearly void of independent verification.
According to the NTIA, those that did get mapping money were chosen by the NTIA's army of anonymous, industry-focused reviewers because the applications were "both fiscally prudent and serve as a model for others." Of course it's still early in the mapping-funding process, and there's millions in taxpayer funds that still need to be doled out. Connected Nation could still wind up winning big, given there's millions still to be doled out.

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S_engineer

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sad...

they will probably get money due to the ignorance of our fearless leaders on the hill.....how *^&^&% sad
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SLD
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Re: sad...

I think Wily-E would have spelled it '$#@%!'

S_engineer

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Re: sad...

said by SLD See Profile :

I think Wily-E would have spelled it '$#@%!'
it's "Wile"
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r81984
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Why?

What benefit do we get by spending millions to map broadband?
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Killa200
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Re: Why?

Physical proof of the fact that we lack broadband in many areas, but in a dumbed down version that even a senator can understand...

SLD
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Re: Why?

When the results are in, they should bill the telcos for the cost of the survey, to get the data they've been intentionally hiding.

r81984
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Re: Why?

said by »www.ntia.doc.gov/press/2009/BTOP···005.html :
Data Collection: While all four recipients plan to collect data directly from broadband providers, each also described plans to collect or utilize data from other sources. Examples include wireless propagation models, speed tests, online and field surveys, and drive testing. Recipients also plan to use existing datasets that were developed for other purposes but are valuable for broadband mapping, including orthophotography, parcel maps, and E911 datasets.
It just seems like they are spending millions for broadband company data and data already available that should be provided for free.
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Killa200
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Re: Why?

I'd be willing to, and petition for, you and you alone to get all the mapping funds if you can manage to get incumbents to provide that mapping data without us having to do studies independently.

r81984
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Re: Why?

They are not doing independent studies.
"all four recipients plan to collect data directly from broadband providers"
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Re: Why?

"each also described plans to collect or utilize data from other sources. Examples include wireless propagation models, speed tests, online and field surveys, and drive testing."

I have a feeling almost all of their data will be from this, as the incumbent providers aren't going to give it up, no matter what is said in some description or plan.
dagg

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i dont really think that using a "pat the bunny" pop up book format is going to really be able to relay that much information to the average senator.

Killa200
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Re: Why?

they might make it a "pat the bunny" pop up series as to not throw too much at once to them,
dagg

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Re: Why?

yeah... but thats the problem i see... its still information overload

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anon_me

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Threaten their licenses to use public airwaves

Probably can't do it given they have current licenses to use public airwaves, but in future license renewals, there should be a clause that states that providers must submit yearly coverage reports to the FCC, and that there be penalties for incomplete, incorrect, and insufficient reporting. Those penalties will be up to and including forfeiture of their licenses on said public airwaves.

These airwaves are the property of the people of the United States and are licensed--not given--to these wireless providers.

Thrifty

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Census

Couldn't this be done by adding a few questions to the upcoming census?
1) Is DSL available at your residence? Yes/No/Don't Know/Don't Care
2) Is cable broadband available at your residence? Yes/No/Don't Know/Don't Care
3) Is FIOS broadband available at your residence? Yes/No/Don't Know/Don't Care
The questions could be phrased better but a wordsmith should be able to make the clear enough for the average Joe.
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