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 |  Radio ActiveMy pappy's a pistolPremium join:2003-01-31 Fullerton, CA | Re: Ah, yes. Duct Tape. said by HandyMan :
The handyman's friend. A friend of mine wrote and recorded a song titled "Duck Tape..."
The opening lyrics go, "If you wanna fix it quick and it's really got to stick, DUCK TAPE!"
(Bridge) "It fixes anything, temporarily. How 'bout a human being? Not necessarily."  -- Melius est habitare in terra deserta quam cum muliere rixosa et iracunda. | |
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 |  Link LoggerPremium,MVM join:2001-03-29 Calgary, AB kudos:3 | Apple is pleased to announce iTape for $35 a roll 
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| Duct tape mythbusters Mythbusteres proved you can use duct tape to build a bridge, stop a car, hold a car together, etc. so why not make a phone work? | |
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 |  dagg join:2001-03-25 Galt, CA | Re: Duct tape mythbusters i saw the car episode. you can slow it down, but no... you cant stop it.... might wanna re-watch that one
however... the fact that you can even slow a car down at all with duct tape is amazing enough in and of itself.
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3 edits | Yeah... Throw duct tape on a $200+ handset because Apple is too r-tarded to just hand out their way overpriced bumpers that likely cost them all of $0.50 to make.
All affected users should immediately return the phone and take their very green money to a competitor. Droid X comes out in 3 days. -- "Our goal (was to make) a billion phones Flash-enabled by 2010...We're actually going to get 1 billion Flash-enabled phones by 2009." -Adobe Chief Technology Officer Kevin Lynch in Nov 2008. | |
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 |  N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs kudos:1 | Re: Yeah... What, was your ex girlfriend named iPhone or something, because you sure do hate the iPhone.
Of course, I'M KIDDING. It was said to me recently when I made criticism of Stevie boy's shiny new lickable trinket.
I guess Consumer Reports hates Apple now. Oh, that's right, they give Apple's laptops pretty high marks, and I agree with them.
The Droid X looks like a sweet phone. I have the Incredible, and I'm very very happy with it.... -- Petty people are disproportionally corrupted by petty power | |
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 cacoPremium join:2005-03-10 Whittier, AK | How are they place duct tape on the "Precious". "If you want an iPhone that works well without a masking-tape fix, we continue to recommend an older model, the 3G S."
Steve Jobs just bent with his bare hands his iphone in half after reading this. -- Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be changed regularly, and for the same reason. | |
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 |  SabreDi relung hatiku bernyanyi bidadari join:2005-05-17 | Re: How are they place duct tape on the "Precious". Or iSteve may simply order the 3GS to be discontinued. That's a very good way to force iPhone-wanters to buy the new iModel. | |
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 |  N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs kudos:1 | Re: Star Wars reference I felt a great disturbance in the Force Duct Tape... as if millions of voices iPhone 4's suddenly cried out in terror dropped bars and suddenly silenced dropped a call. -- Petty people are disproportionally corrupted by petty power | |
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These are not the DROIDs you're looking for.... -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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 |  Z80APremium join:2009-11-23 2 edits | I see you have constructed a new iPhone antenna
Your skills are complete. Indeed, you are powerful, as teh Steve has foreseen. | |
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 |  SlickEnWPremium join:2003-01-21 Seattle, WA | Re: LOL Well i'm in a high signal area , so, i'm not experiencing any issues. I know this angers you ( )
But some others are. (You ) | |
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 |  |  thegeekPremium join:2008-02-21 united state kudos:1 | Re: LOL I'm glad your iPhone is working good for you in a high signal area.
I'm in a low signal area and my Droid still works perfect. No duct tape or specific grasps required. | |
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I wonder how my phone would fare in low signal situations. Don't come up too often. Well, maybe that time I was flying over the pacific.
Ah well. | |
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 |  1 edit | said by glinc:Knowing Apple fanboys, they will still say that the phone is the best thing in this world. Despite all the issues, its amazing how a defective device sells like hotcakes. They will probably say that the laws of physics needs to change to be compatible with Apple products.
Or, Jobs will probably predict the end of cellular networks - "everybody will be using wifi in 5 years anyway" | |
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 1 edit | iPhone next gen This just in. iPhone 5 - It just works edition.
Now you guys see why iPhone 4G has problem. So you fanboi can get your wallet out to get the version 5, where there will be no antenna problem. | |
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 |  AlcoholPremium join:2003-05-26 Climax, MI kudos:3 | Re: iPhone next gen And by Iphone 7 you might be able to make a call without it dropping. -- I found the key to success but somebody changed the lock. | |
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 |  FBGuyyippee ki yayPremium join:2005-03-19 | Re: What about the 'cool factor' ? haven't you ever seen how cool a duct tape wallet is? | |
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 |  dynodbPremium,VIP join:2004-04-21 Minneapolis, MN | said by modemslayer:Wouldn't the duct tape take away from the "I'm cooler than you are" factor of owning an iPhone to begin with? How can something so common and unremarkable still be considered "cool"?
When the iPhone first came out- yeah, it was cool. It was almost unquestionably the best consumer smartphone on the market, and by a wide margin. With the various android phones that have been released already or will be very soon, that just ain't true anymore. | |
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You could do the rubber bracelet hack:
quote: My friend discovered that those rubber wristbands (you know, the ones that the wonder biker made popular) fit just perfectly on the new iPhone 4!
So we went about cutting one up, and here we have it; the one dollar (or less) case:
quote: I even made cutouts in the bottom so that I can leave my case on while charging:
quote: In case youre curious, the cut on an unstretched bracelet needs to be about 1.125″ long and about .125″ wide. I also made small cutouts for the silent mode toggle on the side, and a small hole for the headphone jack on top.
»www.theiphoneguru.net/2010/06/25···racelet/
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 thegeekPremium join:2008-02-21 united state kudos:1 | In other news... Duck releases their new "bedazzled" and "blingin" lines of stylized duct tape. It comes in pre-cut sections designed specifically for the iPhone 4. The Duck CEO said, "Don't worry. The precious shiny Apple logo will not be covered." | |
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 1 edit | We Always Have To Bash Things That Are Number 1! I have the phone, I don't have any problems with dropped calls or signal issues. Apple will put a patch in the coming weeks to fix the bar readings so you will no longs see the "issue" any more. If there was really an issue with the phone, the millions of people that purchased them would be up in arms... it seems the only people complaining are the people that don't own one.....
The phone is an engineering benchmark for others to follow. The use of steel and glass make the phone better and battery life is outstanding.
This issue has been blown way out of line and if you have one, and think you have an issue, return it for a full refund.
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| Interesting I am sure glad I never got on the IPhone bandwagon. There was and is no way I would pay that much for touchscreen phone. I would rather get a Netbook or laptop for that amount. I'm already partially regretting purchasing my Nokia 5800 to replace my Blackberry 8310 but I guess I will have to stick with it till I see what those WiMAX phones will be like from Clear. Then again having a Netbook is just so much more appealing. | |
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said by »blogs.consumerreports.org/electr···gsm.html :..When your finger or hand touches a spot on the phone's lower left sidean easy thing, especially for leftiesthe signal can significantly degrade enough to cause you to lose your connection altogether if you're in an area with a weak signal. .. We reached this conclusion after testing all three of our iPhone 4s in the controlled environment of CU's radio frequency (RF) isolation chamber. In this room, which is impervious to outside radio signals, our test engineers connected the phones to our base-station emulator, a device that simulates carrier cell towers. We also tested several other AT&T phones the same way, including the iPhone 3G S and the Palm Pre. None of those phones had the signal-loss problems of the iPhone 4. Our findings call into question the recent claim by Apple that the iPhone 4's signal-strength issues were largely an optical illusion caused by faulty software that "mistakenly displays 2 more bars than it should for a given signal strength."The tests also indicate that AT&T's network might not be the primary suspect in the iPhone 4's much-reported signal woes. From Apple:
said by »www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/07···ter.html :Upon investigation, we were stunned to find that the formula we use to calculate how many bars of signal strength to display is totally wrong. Our formula, in many instances, mistakenly displays 2 more bars than it should for a given signal strength. For example, we sometimes display 4 bars when we should be displaying as few as 2 bars. Users observing a drop of several bars when they grip their iPhone in a certain way are most likely in an area with very weak signal strength, but they dont know it because we are erroneously displaying 4 or 5 bars. Their big drop in bars is because their high bars were never real in the first place.We will issue a free software update within a few weeks that incorporates the corrected formula. Since this mistake has been present since the original iPhone, this software update will also be available for the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 3G. .... We will issue a free software update within a few weeks that incorporates the corrected formula. For the vast majority of users who have not been troubled by this issue, this software update will only make your bars more accurate. So what will the new software do? Make it appear the bars aren't dropping when the signal actually is? | |
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 |  N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs kudos:1 | Re: So what will the "patch" do? WOW, dude.
Software issue my ASS.
Lab equipment doesn't lie. This this is a defective design.... -- Petty people are disproportionally corrupted by petty power | |
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 |  |  | | Re: So what will the "patch" do? said by N3OGH:WOW, dude. Software issue my ASS. Lab equipment doesn't lie. This this is a defective design.... Mispost or misread?
Knowing that's the point of CR's findings (we agree), I asked what will the new software patch do? Since Apple claims the patch will fix 'erroneous bars', which are not erroneous at all. Make them appear not to drop even though they actually are (accurately)?
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When you touch it the "wrong" way the signal drops.
Not bars on the phone, but bench equipment that bypasses the software of the phone.
The antenna is a defective design.... -- Petty people are disproportionally corrupted by petty power | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: So what will the "patch" do? said by N3OGH:My take: When you touch it the "wrong" way the signal drops. Not bars on the phone, but bench equipment that bypasses the software of the phone. The antenna is a defective design.... Yeah got that.. I documented all that my original post; and for reference I quoted all CR's points; I also bolded the pertinent ones for easy read; and illustrated with applicable screen shots of the video too.
Again, what will the software patch do if that is really the case? ......Anyone?
Obviously, software can't fix it (in the way that Apple described and I quoted above) so it almost sounds like it could have been a disguise.
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 Elite join:2002-10-03 Orange, CT 1 edit | FAIL! YOU FAIL APPLE!!!!!!!!!
I got my iPhone 4 on Friday and attempted to use it without a case. I held the phone in my left hand and must've bridged the antenna gap every time. As a result, I had absolute shit service and plenty of dropped calls all day long. I was absolutely pissed and completely unimpressed. I waited 3 fucking weeks for this phone to arrive. My 3G and 3GS have never ever had problems with service and dropped calls in the exact same places.
I love everything else about the phone, but this antenna problem is the biggest crock of shit I've ever seen in my life. I should be able to use my $700 handset without a case if I choose to do so. I'm not buying a fucking $29 bumper which fails to protect the phone in most reviewer's "drop tests" conducted thus far.
As a result of my frustration, I purchased a case on Saturday and have enjoyed adequate RF performance since. No calls have dropped and I've had service mostly everywhere.
Now I'm trying to find a better case than this INCIPIO EDGE that I spent almost $32 on after tax at the AT&T retail store.
Dear Incipio,
The Edge is a fucking piece of shit. It's not cut to size properly, and the left side of the case seems to be wiggling back and forth off the side of the antenna, presumably because it wasn't cut correctly. Also, the fucking bottom of the case keeps coming off. I can't even press the Sleep/Wake button without pushing the fucking phone out of the case. Lastly, the camera hole is slightly too low for the camera.
Otherwise, the dark purple one is very sleek and neat looking. Just tweak the design and send me a new one. Fo' free.
//END OF BIG INTERNET RAGE RANT
Edit: Had to mention camera hole.
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I remember the whole Ford Explorer / Firestone debacle at the time. They were ready to burn both Ford and Firestone to the ground (figuratively speaking) over an issue that only happened if you:
a) Let the tires lose air to the point where they were in fact physically deformed
b) Drove the Explorer like it was a high end Mustang
So seeing CR cackling gleefully over the iPhone 4's issues doesn't surprise me in the least.
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