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ß | Re: So much for a smaller government... I ABSOLUTELY blame Bush on this one, and every other idiot politician that votes for it. | |
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said by AnonProxy  :I ABSOLUTELY blame Bush on this one, and every other idiot politician that votes for it. Blame the whole Congress. It passed 410-11. This wasn't a BUSH bill.
»www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/new···1525447/
H.R. 4279 puts resources toward aiding a sector of the economy that employs an estimated 18 million workers - 13% of our labor force - and accounts for half of all US exports, driving 40% of the country's growth.
As a result of less than effective enforcement, however, counterfeiting and piracy costs the United States economy between 200 and 250 billion dollars every year, and results in the loss of 750,000 American jobs.
H.R. 4279 will do four important things:
First, it will prioritize intellectual property protection to the highest level of our government by creating an office in the White House that will be responsible for coordinating the IP efforts of eight diverse agencies and producing a national Joint Strategic Plan for IP enforcement.
Second, it will elevate IP enforcement within the Justice Department and provide more resources for investigating and prosecuting IP crimes.
Third, it will make changes to both civil and criminal IP laws to enhance the ability of intellectual property owners to effectively protect their rights.
And, it will increase penalties for IP violations that endanger public health and safety.
H.R. 4279 is now supported by a number of key industries and associations, including the Consumer Electronics Association, the Digital Media Association, the Net Coalition, the Internet Commerce Coalition, the Coalition for Consumers' Pictures Rights, and the Printing Industries of America.
This is in addition to support we already had from the Teamsters, the Directors Guild of America, SEIU, AFTRA, Unite Here, AFM, OPEIU, the Coalition Against Counterfeiting and Piracy, the Motor Equipment Manufacturing Association, the Motion Picture Association of America, PHARMA, and NBC Universal. And it passed so easily because intellectual property is such a huge part of the US economy and an even bigger part of US exports.
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1 edit | Re: So much for a smaller government... Ok I am modifying this. I checked EFF and this ONLY PASSED the HOUSE. No similar legislation is in the Senate. Let's hope the Senate has more brains. Don't let us down Harry Reid. Really, please... The last thing this country needs to worry about when all is going to hell is copyright laws. Let's get some jobs infused into the economy and fix our dollar's value. Also, lets spur the housing market. O wait, those are real issues. The House obviously has done such a wonderful job, they can focus on the mundane now... Grr, Stupid people in the House (Democrats and Republicans) need to have 20 public lashings each. | |
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| I wonder where they will get the money to prosecute and bring to trail those who did get caught illegally file trading content.
Sure it protects American business from stolen content outside bounds internally and externally but this will just put more strain on the already overworked court system, or do they plan on having a special court for these type of cases? | |
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| Re: So much for a smaller government... Mich,
Hate to burst your bubble but the U.S. isn't the top copyright violator. That honor falls to Russia, China, and some others. Merely, this law will do little but fill the pockets of the RIAA at the expense of college kids and children whose parents get sued on their behalf. | |
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| Re: So much for a smaller government... "stolen content outside bounds internally and externally"
I am well aware of that, when I said externally I was referring to other countries. I have visited foreign countries before and I see all the bootleg CDs for 10 pesos (2USD as of current pricing) available for sale on street corners.
China, Russia and other countries are no different, which is why I am indirectly asking where would the court system obtain the money and resources to prosecute alleged criminals from foreign and domestic identities. | |
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| Re: So much for a smaller government... said by HEDP :China, Russia and other countries are no different, which is why I am indirectly asking where would the court system obtain the money and resources to prosecute alleged criminals from foreign and domestic identities. The US gets their own countries to prosecute them thru the trade agreement process and the WTO international trade organization. While it is not easy to do that, other countries, because they have their own IP issues, are starting to prosecute copyright infringement. More and more countries are falling in to line with US wishes on this issue.
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Miami, FL | Re: So much for a smaller government... Is there a list of countries you can compile or are available on the net that have agreed to these trade agreements? | |
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| TK,
Enforcement for many countries is lackluster. China has seen some major crack downs as of late. However, once this hoopla for the Olympics ends, I see them going back to old ways. As for Russia, well a few minor busts have happened. However, it's Russia. These won't go anywhere. As for the rest of the world, when you got an unstable or repressive government, I think they worry little about piracy. Their mainstay is staying in power. I highly doubt the Junta in former Burma, the Warlords in Africa, etc are too concerned about piracy. These initiatives will go little if anywhere to stop it. Too many countries in this world are unstable and rife with poverty. Wherever you have these two elements, piracy flourishes. You have A) Little Enforcement B) People with limited resources wanting to enjoy stuff (Music, movies, etc). | |
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| said by LiamJunket :said by AnonProxy :I ABSOLUTELY blame Bush on this one, and every other idiot politician that votes for it. Blame the whole Congress. It passed 410-11. This wasn't a BUSH bill. This bill doesn't become law unless Bush sings it. So if he signs it IS his fault. Assuming this passes the Senate, Bush should use his veto power for something useful. | |
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| Re: So much for a smaller government... said by BF69 :said by LiamJunket :said by AnonProxy :I ABSOLUTELY blame Bush on this one, and every other idiot politician that votes for it. Blame the whole Congress. It passed 410-11. This wasn't a BUSH bill. This bill doesn't become law unless Bush sings it. So if he signs it IS his fault. Assuming this passes the Senate, Bush should use his veto power for something useful. A veto would be easily overridden when originally passed by such a huge majority.
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1 edit | said by LiamJunket :And it passed so easily because intellectual property is such a huge part of the US economy and an even bigger part of US exports. IP may be a big part of the economy, but the alleged impact of filesharing as claimed by the RIAA and MPAA is bogus. It makes the assumption that every last bit of data out on the filesharing networks is a direct displacement of product revenue -- a CD or a DVD purchase, or a movie ticket. This is just pure fantasy with no relationship to reality. Most of their business problems such as they are arise from obsolete business models, technological advances, and changing demographics.
What I object to about the DMCA and this kind of nonsense is the continuing assault on personal information privacy in order to cater to corporate interests and their lobby groups. The result has been the horror stories of parents being sued for tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars because a ten-year-old downloaded a song, or an elderly widow who barely knows how to open a browser window somehow coming under the RIAA's crosshairs as an alleged big-time pirate. Meanwhile, the music and movie industries continue to whine about lost profits because, oddly enough, none of these measures have the least bit of effect since they have little or nothing to do with the root cause. And also meanwhile, other countries, like Canada, move in the opposite direction and, recognizing the threat that modern communications technology poses to privacy rights, have enacted strong personal privacy protection laws.
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| said by LiamJunket :said by AnonProxy :I ABSOLUTELY blame Bush on this one, and every other idiot politician that votes for it. Blame the whole Congress. It passed 410-11. This wasn't a BUSH bill. » www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/new···1525447/H.R. 4279 puts resources toward aiding a sector of the economy that employs an estimated 18 million workers - 13% of our labor force - and accounts for half of all US exports, driving 40% of the country's growth.
As a result of less than effective enforcement, however, counterfeiting and piracy costs the United States economy between 200 and 250 billion dollars every year, and results in the loss of 750,000 American jobs.
H.R. 4279 will do four important things:
First, it will prioritize intellectual property protection to the highest level of our government by creating an office in the White House that will be responsible for coordinating the IP efforts of eight diverse agencies and producing a national Joint Strategic Plan for IP enforcement.
Second, it will elevate IP enforcement within the Justice Department and provide more resources for investigating and prosecuting IP crimes.
Third, it will make changes to both civil and criminal IP laws to enhance the ability of intellectual property owners to effectively protect their rights.
And, it will increase penalties for IP violations that endanger public health and safety.
H.R. 4279 is now supported by a number of key industries and associations, including the Consumer Electronics Association, the Digital Media Association, the Net Coalition, the Internet Commerce Coalition, the Coalition for Consumers' Pictures Rights, and the Printing Industries of America.
This is in addition to support we already had from the Teamsters, the Directors Guild of America, SEIU, AFTRA, Unite Here, AFM, OPEIU, the Coalition Against Counterfeiting and Piracy, the Motor Equipment Manufacturing Association, the Motion Picture Association of America, PHARMA, and NBC Universal. And it passed so easily because intellectual property is such a huge part of the US economy and an even bigger part of US exports. Exactly...
And as I expected, Ron Paul was one of the 11 out of 421 to have voted AGAINST it....
I don't understand how people can complain about this sort of thing on a massive scale, yet they continue to vote like trained chimpanzees to pull the lever for candidate X when in reality almost 100% of the time, all candidates stand for the same views!!! Republicans are no longer against big government and Democrats are no longer for the "small guy." Wise up people!
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| said by LiamJunket :And it passed so easily because intellectual property is such a huge part of the US economy and an even bigger part of US exports. So our biggest export is master copies of movies to China for pirate duplication? | |
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| Ron Paul I don't even have to look, I know Ron Paul voted no. He's the only one who cares about normal Americans, the rest of them are elitist assholes. Either way, it's not up to the government to enforce copyright, the RIAA/MPAA has to do that job.
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| Re: Ron Paul said by texans20 :I don't even have to look, I know Ron Paul voted no. He's the only one who cares about normal Americans, the rest of them are elitist assholes. Either way, it's not up to the government to enforce copyright, the RIAA/MPAA has to do that job. Your confidence is confirmed in the voting record, just so you know. =) | |
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| Ron paul gives 2 shits about the U.S. as most other politicians. I hate to burst your bubble. His voting record falls within the Republican Party around 75 percent of the time. If that speaks for anything, that means he is no different than the idiot we got running things at this current junction. Then again, the Democrats in the House don't seem to be a shining prize either. We seriously need to find some HONEST people to run this country in favor of American's again. These days, we're the Corporate States of America at the behest of anyone standing in their way. | |
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| Re: Ron Paul said by jc100 :His voting record falls within the Republican Party around 75 percent of the time. That's an interesting statistic, but did you know that only one other member of Congress votes less frequently with their party, and that's Wayne Gilchrest, Maryland Republican (source: Washington Post)? Did you know that most of Paul's agreements with the Republican party appear to be votes for adjournment or "nay" votes to spending bills (source: Washington Post)?
Raw statistics mean nothing, you need context and the context you've meant to imply doesn't jive with reality. | |
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| Re: Ron Paul Raw statistics mean nothing, agreed. When put into the context of how the puppets running this country (Bush and Party) and others are doing, then it means a while lot. Spending is paramount but there is more to life than spending. Iraq? Quagmire. Social Security and Health care? Economic reform? Etc. So far, Bush and the Republicans fail miserably at this. Seriously, the only difference between Republicans and Democrats is basically this: One party (Democrats) gives you a little lube via Social Reforms while screwing you. IE, Democrats tend to give people a little for their money before pissing away the rest. However, they tax to pay for their pissing which creates a balance budget. Not much better, considering they spend as bad as the next guy. On the flip side, you got the Republicans who are Pro Business and love to make anti consumer laws. Spending on the Republican side ALWAYS comes in the form of adding TRILLIONS to the national deficit and devaluing the U.S. Dollar. Regan, Bush, Sr, and Bush Jr with his whopping 5-6 trillion addition. Not to mention, we seem to always end up in wars when these idiots take office. Last, religion and anti choice morality crap are their mainstay issues. So while I'd love to vote for Ron Paul, I don't see him side tracking from these areas of concern. More or less, I wish we had people who gave a damn about the U.S. Neither party really does. You're stuck voting for who you think will screw things up the least. Ron Paul doesn't stand a chance. Quite honestly, I liked Bill Richardson. He seemed like a Semi Honest guy. | |
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| Re: Ron Paul Lubed or not, I'm still getting violated. What you're talking about is federal bribery of the populace for allowing politicians to run amok, and what's worse is you seem to have chosen it as the lesser of two evils. Lesser or not, you've still chosen to be violated rather than fight against it. | |
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| Re: Ron Paul Ok, well who will fight against it? Certainly not Ron Paul. Prove to me he has differed on any of those issues par for par. Short of voting for a third party, we won't see change. Sad fact is, no third party has won in over a hundred years. It just won't happen as politics these days are about the millions you have to spend. It's not about who will best represent you. Hence, we're stuck in the rut of picking the least of the idiots. | |
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| Re: Ron Paul It depends on what issues you want. Considering your choice of Democrats over Republicans I'm going to guess that you favor social programs and government assistance over personal freedom and financial independence. If that is the case, then Ron Paul is quite your villain. If that's not the case, then perhaps you need to re-evaluate your political choices.
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| Re: Ron Paul No I prefer Religious freedom, Marital Choice, abortion, etc all to stay legal. IE, the Moral Clauses that your so called freedom loving Republicans wish to remove from society. Hate to burst your bubble, but they are no less government than the next guy. They wish to dictate and run your lives the same as any other. Even worse, if they could run things in full, we'd be a bible state with laws based upon "Moral" clauses. As per the Social Programs, they aren't bad. Look at sweden. They have some of the longest lifespans in the world. They are a socialized country. Let you in on a secret, so are we. After all, who built your roads, paid for the schools you attend, funded the hospitals, police, first responders, etc? Tax Payers. Not just tax payers locally, but tax payers nationally. Federal dollars go to helping said entities. Roads are funded via federal interstate program. Police, First responders, receive federal grants and subsidies, etc. All of which constitute socialism. Money you pay in IS NOT staying at home. It's going into a big collective pot and being dished out nationally. Funny thing too, the states who pay the most (notably the north) end up getting the least in general for their dollar. The South usually gets 1+ Dollar for every dollar paid in. So I'd say my outlook is a bit different than yours. While I DON'T think the government should be a welfare state, I do believe in personal choice and getting SOME STUFF back for what I paid. IE... Health care should be a RIGHT and not an option. THat's about the only thing I think should be nationalized, with private insurance as a supplement. | |
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| Re: Ron Paul said by jc100 :...your so called freedom loving Republicans... I don't know where you got this, or why you're making it personal, but if you want to argue with people on the Internet, at least read and comprehend what they have to say.
Read what I wrote, not what you want to read. | |
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| Re: Ron Paul said by yock :said by jc100 :I'm going to guess that you favor social programs and government assistance over personal freedom and financial independence. If that is the case, then Ron Paul is quite your villain. I construed it from that line. He's no worse or no better than any other politician. As per freedom loving line, well sure, social programs are a bit of a welfare state in some respects but at least they have a common good. I'd rather everyone has health care with the option of private insurance to boost coverage, than being int he position we are today. At least we'd see a return on our money. Let's face it, ALL politicians are going to spend spend spend and tax. Republican or Democrat. Republicans spend by borrowing and making our money worth less by adding to the national debt. Therefore, prices go up as we see now. Democrats Tax and pay as they go. Either way, it's coming out of our pocket. I'd for once like to see SOME benefit from all this mismanagement. If it's so bad (aside from all the points I listed above about how we're socialized) th en why are countries like Sweden some of the top in the world? | |
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| Re: Ron Paul Ron Paul has been at odds with the Republican party over civil liberty issues for the last several years, the reasons for which have been hashed, rehashed, argued and reargued, and are available to anyone with access to Google. In matters of civil liberties, he opposes the Republicans on nearly every issue (except abortion, which isn't a topic I'm willing to discuss on Broadband Reports, period).
I'm not going to sit here and try to sell you on a man, Ron Paul isn't any more important than you or me, but the ideas he expouses make his position as an elected leader particularly useful, regardless of his political afiliation. If you can't separate him from the Republican base, then you aren't looking hard enough. | |
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| Re: Ron Paul At odds isn't voting with them 75 percent of the time. While I do agree our civil liberties are being tarnished, i would like solid proof of his vote against:
Patriot Act
Iraq War
Torture
His Support for:
Abortion (Yes its a right. You choose how to treat yourself when you are sick. Why should the government force you to have a kid you don't want).
Gay Marriage (Your life, your morals)
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| Re: Ron Paul Patriot Act Voting Record: »www.votesmart.org/issue_keyvote_···id=V3108
There was no bill to specifically allow for the use of force in Iraq; however, Paul did authorize use of force Joint Resolution 64:
"To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States"
Which he, and many others, contend does not apply to Iraq.
As for torture, you're gonna have to be more specific on that one.
Ron Paul opposes abortion. That you equate pregnancy to being ill is ridiculous. If you're going to support abortion, at least have the balls to admit what you're doing.
Ron Paul also opposes federal mandates for or against same-sex marriage. He doesn't believe legislation is necessary to guarantee equal rights. | |
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| Re: Ron Paul So Let's see:
He backpeddles on a bill he voted for to authorize the use of force. He now tries to side step and say he didn't mean it to apply towards Iraq - FAIL
Torture and you know what I mean is the use of rendezvous practices which forcibly and harmfully extract information (True or otherwise) such as that used at Gitmo
Abortion IS A RIGHT. Did ANYONE ever tell you HOW you have to treat yourself when you are ill? What happens if a woman is raped and gets pregnant? What happens if said baby will be born at the expense of the mother's life? Yes, abortion can fall INTO medical terms. No one tells you what you HAVE to do!
Ron Paul OPPOSES federally mandating that of equal rights. Basically, he doesn't want everyone to be treated EQUALLY. So if your employer is homophobic, or someone wants to kill you cause you were gay, you'd not fall under the hate crime statue. Ah yes, that;s known as EPIC FAIL.
Ron Paul.... Failing you since 2008. | |
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| said by jc100 : Ron Paul doesn't stand a chance. Quite honestly, I liked Bill Richardson. He seemed like a Semi Honest guy. Irrelevant, candidate with most fundraising money always wins the primary, and then the presidency. Watch the money, know the win.
»www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.php
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| Re: Ron Paul That's a given patcat. We've all known that since day one. Money talks, well usually. It didn't help Ross Perot win though and he was a billionaire. It takes lots of money, a name, and B.S. shoveled higher than the eiffel tower to clench a solid win. Have all these characteristics and you can consider yourself the next president. | |
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Saint Clair Shores, MI | Doesn't change a thing. So, this changes what? Am I going to change the way I get and/or listen to music? Nope. The more the govt clamps down and steers away from the people who voted them into office, the more people revolt. | |
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| copyrights are important! I just came across this message board and I have to say I'm totally mystified by what I am seeing here.
Copyrights are VITAL to our national interest. The person who created a work of art or literature or prose, etc., etc., MUST have ownership over that work. It should be his/hers/theirs to do with as they will and that includes selling rights to all or part of it to entities that are proficient in marketing and selling the work to get the absolute best financial return from it.
I'm a libertarian myself, and completely all for a small government - but not smaller than it has to be. I wouldn't eliminate other laws against theft (make no mistake, copyright violation IS theft!) and eliminate our police forces in the name of smaller government, for instance. I despise both democrats and republicans for what they've done to this country. But protecting copyright is a vital government function, no different than protecting people from any other kind of thieves.
I can't really get my head around the things you guys are saying. It seems like it's more or less "I should get everything for free, and if I don't it's because 'big corporations' are 'ripping off the little guy'" ??? (also don't forget the always popular "it's Bush's fault") I mean, are you serious ? Am I or are my bandmates or fellow musicians "big corporations" ??? Am I supposed to take all my talent, training, and hard work and create something, then let others just take it from me and use it however they want without my permission?
I ... just don't get it... I don't get where you guys are coming from. You're talking about libertarian ideals and smaller government and whatnot - well one of the primary libertarian ideals and values is that you do not have the right to the labor and property of another private individual. What minimal government we should have MUST protect your right to your own property and labor. | |
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Chandler, AZ | shrub at the helm....Americans would be again6t US All they need to do is buy a few GOP senators and pay some fat lube to the monkey-weed in the white house and they would be allowed to do Americans without even lube....Long live king George and his merry band of corrupt republicans | |
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Two Rivers, WI | Better be sure you got the right person I can see it now, innocent people getting blamed even more with more power to abuse. | |
| DMNTD
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| overbearing.. When is enough enough? I'm 25 surrounded by dinosaurs that need to go EXTINCT, copyright as it stands benefits 3%(distributors!)of the population!?!!?
The way copyright works is an attack on the constitution it favors only the rich/dictorial and has always been this way. It has MORE than already killed creativity and I blame the sell-outs for even buying into these deviant contracts. So thats fine, they made a choice and so can we. Its just laughable when WE can make a choice they tell everyone we are being thieves. Prove that these people are making money and then your flaccid copyright will matter.
MEDIA - SIGHT, SOUND, INFORMATION, VIEWS, bottom line they are not wanting to stop infringing they DON'T want to spend money on forming a new formula until THEY want to. So as of right now certain people are so-called forcing them to and they believe they move for no one. I LEAVE YOU! with THIS: »questioncopyright.org/promise | |
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| Gov taking care of corrupt corps Gotta love that the Gov makes these laws to protect corrupt, out of date corporations even going so far as to put a white house position in for copyright cop. But if we ask for national health care, it'll never happen because that doesn't benefit corporations, only the citizens.
I don't want my tax dollars to be used to prop up these stupid corporations because they can't create a viable product, and would rather legislate, and destroy the Internet. | |
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| When will it end? Can we just go ahead and pass an Act to make this a Communist country? At least then the public won't keep hoping that things will get better in terms of government making dumb moves. Seems to me we're already headed down that path and that's what all the old farts on capitol hill want now... why waste time, just do it now and get it over with. This country has already been runined by the Bush administration, why stop now? :rolleyes: | |
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2 edits | Stop buying is the only answer They're giving our jobs and careers away to Illegal Immigrants, the economy continues to suffer from an illegal war. This has been the most repressive Presidential and Congressional series of terms in our nation's history.
When will you stop buying, before your money is all gone, let them choke on their copyrights. Don't buy!!!! Don't copy...just stop consuming and watch their pockets empty out like ours. | |
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| We have a new bill in the house In Canada we may adopt many US polocies on copywright in a new bill being brought up.We as Canadians(at least ones I talk to) are not for it.But we dont get a choice.We are mostly mad that we allready pay a copy tax on cd/dvd's that pays the artists and what not.This bill makes no mention of removing that tax either if it is passed.Its really bad when corp's start running your country. | |
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join:2005-03-12 | Re: We have a new bill in the house My impression is that the proposed new copyright bill is very unlikely to pass in Canada, and that the Personal Information Privacy and Electronic Documents Act of 2000 trumps any such ill-advised scheme. | |
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andyb
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join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
1 edit | Re: We have a new bill in the house I really hope so wolfie.
Edit:I have a letter from my mp telling me he forwarded my complaint and gave me a copy of the reply.On the bottom he said I don't think his answer answered any of your questions do you want me to continue with this.First time I ever had a guy reply that he's willing to help and a liberal to boot lol. | |
| wispalord
join:2007-09-20
House Springs, MO
·Charter Pipeline
| i dont aggree or dissagree. i'm not saying downloading copyrighted material is right, but it's all some ppl can afford, cause of the pricing. And then you got the nerds who download applications like operating systems and stuff just to stay up on technology. I believe the only way it should be illegal if what was downloaded was used for any kind of financial gain. And would this be a civil crime, can they imprison ppl, or fine them, cause otherwise i believe 1/2 the population would be in trouble. | |
| madrhino
join:2004-07-03
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| WTF?? "national Joint Strategic Plan for IP enforcement."
Don't they already have blanket wiretapping authority with the cooperation of the immune ISP's?
What more could they possibly want?
Oh that's right, they have to get rid of that pesky Fourth Amendment
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Copyright Cop Position Added to White House
What about cut outs
The copyright holders never talk about songs that to them no longer have value. The music industry calls those recordings cut outs. You may have seen a bin in a CD store containing Cd's with holes drilled through or notches cut in their packages. What I am referring to are albums that are no longer available for purchase through normal channels. Whenever a new media is introduced all albums recorded on the previous media will not be re-released on the new media. All tracks recorded on vinyl were not released on CD. One reason many music lovers are downloading music files from file sharing websites, is that they can no longer obtain that favorite song any other way. A component must be added to copyright law that will place songs removed from the record label's catalogs in the public domain until the songs are re-released (made available) by the record labels.