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Aurora, CO | HAAHHAHAHA! OMFG!!! these people are on crack! | |
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cmptrblder
join:2001-01-16
Altoona, PA
| Re: HAAHHAHAHA! I don't see the copyright symbol on the ferret so I'M claim'n it!!!! What a bunch of brain washing bull$%^# are they going to SUE the kids if they end up downloading since they have there signatures? Man, I just can't stop laughing.....  | |
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Rob
In Deo speramus
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Kendall, FL
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| They could use those resources for other things... What a waste of money and resources. Maybe they could use the money they invest into "Copyright-crusading ferret" into dropping the prices of movies and cd's.
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BonezX
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Canada | Re: They could use those resources for other things... why not put the money towards the education system, sence that seems to be hurting bad, minus the ferret of course | |
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join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO
| Re: They could use those resources for other things... said by BonezX  :
why not put the money towards the education system, sence that seems to be hurting bad, minus the ferret of course
Because the education system isn't hurting for money. It's hurting for people who know how to use the money properly. | |
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join:2004-06-14
Miami, FL
| Re: They could use those resources for other things... Football dude, you couldn't have said it better. Politicians keep talking about how they will give money for schools. There was a lot of money before lotto and now lotto on top of that and poor performing schools keep performing low. If you just give people more money, they will take it and not try an ounce harder or learn an ounce more on how to teach right. More money out of my pocket for that is BS(and I don't mean BellSouth). | |
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Part Of The Problem
join:2001-09-27
Dayton, OH
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| Re: They could use those resources for other thing said by BonezX :
why not put the money towards the education system, sence that seems to be hurting bad, minus the ferret of course
»nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/
They aren't hurting for money. Government spends more than 800 billion dollars annually on public education, K-12 and college.
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
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| Re: They could use those resources for other thing said by Beeper :
They aren't hurting for money. Government spends more than 800 billion dollars annually on public education, K-12 and college.
Considering how many elementary, Jr. high, high schools and community colleges there are does that number reflect an amount that would constitute "not hurting for money"? And if it is a good amount to have proper funding then why do many, many schools still have outdated technologies and materials along with teachers and staff being underpaid? Granted that could all mean mismanagement, but for me just looking at a large figure and assuming it's enough doesn't do it for me. | |
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TheHelpful1
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join:2002-01-11
Upper Marlboro, MD
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| Say it once, say it a thousand times.
Instead of teaching children about the evils of piracy, how about teaching them the evils of Price Fixing, mega-conglomerates, anti-trust actions and other miscellaneous actions routinely employed by the MP/RIAA?
Oh that's right, THOSE actions take money away from the consumer, where as piracy doesn't take money away from the consumer
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Loganville, GA |  ...
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AthlGrond
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join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
·Comcast
| Re: Copyright infringement said by Count Hogula3 :
Perhaps they should bother teaching kids about ALL of what's in Title 17 of the U.S. Code
Actually that would be a good idea.
Though I doubt that kids would fully understand it, at least they would know more.
It would also be good if the person doing the presenting would know enough to answer questions correctly.
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wuy3
join:2004-08-04
North Haven, CT | Yarrrrrrr All your music are belong to us!:p | |
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bltsob
Evil By Desire
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join:2002-09-03
Richeyville, PA
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| Sure Like they can REALLY stop piracy, hell right at this moment 50-60 percent of the Internets traffic is probably someone downloading a movie,game or song.. There is NO possible way they can stop it..
Kazaa, WinMX
Irc/Bit-torrent
News Groups
Ftp servers
they can stop 1, like Kazaa, but then the others will just get bigger and bigger until they just over flow with users...
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Part Of The Problem
join:2001-09-27
Dayton, OH
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| Re: Sure said by bltsob :
There is NO possible way they can stop it..
Sure there is. The government could force ISP's to follow regulations laid out in a "Know Your Data" law.
All data transfer would be automatically tracked, logged, and taxed progressively. More than 2 megs/per month from an unknown source would net you a tax bill of $5. More than 20 megs/moth, $500. Content owners would be encouraged to register with the government exempting end users from having to pay a per byte tax, but at the cost of assuming personal liability for the data they transmit.
IRC and USENET could be crushed as aiding and abetting piracy.
Ports could be blocked by the FCC.
The government doesn't have to end copyright infringement. It just has to annoy the pipe owners enough to make it in their best interest to have a piracy free internet. The pipe owners then trash the existing Internet.
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Anonymous
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Part Of The Problem
join:2001-09-27
Dayton, OH
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| Re: Sure said by Anonymous :
And no one would use Internet.
Everyone would use the Internet. It will become mandatory. The Wild West era will just have been brought to an end.
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Transmaster
Onward Through The Fog
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
| total Crap I was once a school teacher and if someone came to my class with something like this I would have thrown them out.
With all of the things kids need to learn there just isn't time to teach crap like this. The kid wouldn't understand much of it anyway.
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join:2004-01-20
Lawrenceville, GA | Well, at least they picked a good mascot. I think ferret represents them pretty well. Though a weasel, skunk, cockroach, or dungbeetle might have been better. | |
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Living on a Blu Planet
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | Ferret? Excuse me? Doesn't a ferret(weasel family)"STEAL" eggs(among other things)? Rich! A theif telling kids not to steal... 
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amenite
The Soylent - It's People
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join:2002-11-21
Ridgewood, NJ
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| Check those roles... So they have the kids play the part of musicians who've sold millions of records and toured non-stop only to discover that they still owe the record company a load of cash due in part to today's equivalent of payola? Oh wait a second, that would be too close to reality. Let's play make-believe role playing instead and role play the artist as downtrodden by the fan instead of the beancounter. They should have gone all the way and just called their mascot what it is - A WEASEL!
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join:2001-11-25
Los Angeles, CA
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| A Weasel for the BSA MASCOT???!!! Sounds to me like they made the perfect choice!
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD | how about Jack? let's name it Jack the Weasel (er, I mean ferret), in honor of Jack Valenti, who so eloquently demonizes the entertainment industries' customers. | |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | BUTT OUT bsa I cant help but thinking of cartman, stan and kyle. Who take up smoking after an "anti smoking" campaine comes to south park.
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viperpa33s
Why Me?
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join:2002-12-20
Bradenton, FL
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| Should stay out of the classroom Unless it has to do with actual education, this stuff should not be allowed into the classroom. This isn't about piracy, this is about promoting a companies product. Kids are the BSA's best customers so what better way to promote than in the classroom. Allot of kids already can't do the basics, reading, writing, and math.
The BSA hates P2P and considers it stealing which is rightly so. On the other hand, the BSA sure loves kids to spend there every last cent on one of there games or other software. They know kids have a fascination with new things and they will spend every last dime to get it. The BSA should be teaching kids how to be conscious consumers. | |
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vic102482
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join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD | Brainwashing the children for profit What else is there to it?:( | |
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Transmaster
Onward Through The Fog
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
| Re: Their Mascot - Jack the Weasel?? How about this one: | |
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Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS | Re: Their Mascot - Jack the Weasel?? Um not to burst your bubble or anything but Old Jack is from the MPAA not the BSA which is also separate from the RIAA. I admit the yare all scum, but we need to keep them straight. | |
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Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS | Re: Their Mascot - Robert the Weasel?? much better!:D | |
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jap
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join:2003-08-10
038xx
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| Train the good little consumers young... Under the guise of ethics they are using the school system to condition youngsters to be compliant consumers. Social research has well established that it works. They'll likely get good dollar returns from some measurable percentage of these kids over the next 40-50 years. There's alot of power in conditioning youth during the right developmental periods: many of those children will carry forth lessons "learned" into adulthood and even pass the conditioning on to their kids - or at least try.
It's a disturbing corruption of the educational system to allow commercial & theological entities into the ed environment. The blame, IMO, must go back to our national culture of starving public services to the bone with feverish anti-tax measures. We've left our social system, schools included, so starved they must take what they can get from less pure sources, primarily corporations and religious organisations. Regardless of the PR spins these supporting institutions & corporations *always* conditionalize their support in a manner that furthers their own ambitions. It's human nature, which is why historically we've tried to establish clear separations between religion, policy making, the often harsh antics of business, and social institutions. That separation is crumbling through the starvation of social institutions & services.
As my words make obvious, I support public funding of social institutions. In this particular case teachers & school admin need to feel secure enough in their funding and not chronically burnt-out so they can say F'off to manipulators like the MPAA, BSA, and RIAA when they come knocking. As it is they are so under supported that the BSA, etal represent pinch-hitters who can give the teacher a break *plus* dump happy-making commercial junk on the kiddos like star/icon posters, sample CDs, and Justin Timberlake lollipops. The corps & religious orgs know it and they exploit it.
It's hard to blame the teachers/school admin for caving OR the corps & churches from swooping in to exploit the situation. The dynamic is a result of pinched financial support from society. It's sad to see much of our ed system loose it's educational ideals from it's hay-days of 1950-1980 and morph into the certificate mill as much of it has ... and continues to. There's little question in my mind what drives those changes.
We have admirable access to ed in the US - far better than most countries. But the quality of that ed (public) continues to slip and is now easily surpassed by societies that work with way less resources. | |
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Part Of The Problem
join:2001-09-27
Dayton, OH
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| Re: Train the good little consumers young... said by jap :
We've left our social system, schools included, so starved they must take what they can get from less pure sources, .
Government education spending on public schools topped $800 billion dollars in 2002.
»nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/
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| footballdude
join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO
| said by jap :
The blame, IMO, must go back to our national culture of starving public services to the bone with feverish anti-tax measures.
In 2002 (the last time I worked through the numbers) the US spent around $8,500 per child for public education K-12. The blame, IMO, goes to people who constantly harp that we need more money for education but don't have a clue about how the funds are being misused. | |
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Part Of The Problem
join:2001-09-27
Dayton, OH
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| said by jap :
It's hard to blame the teachers/school admin
That's half of the problem.
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GETAFRIGGINCLUE
|  If parents taught their children right from wrong
Perhaps the RIAA and MPAA should charge parents an additional $10,000 fee for parenting lessons when their children are found guilty of theft of copyright protected materials??? | |
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Transmaster
Onward Through The Fog
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
| Re: If parents taught their children right from wrong said by GETAFRIGGINCLUE:
...then it would NOT be necessary for our education systems to assume parenting responsibilities.
If this was done the RIAA would complain sales of their
nasty obscene gangsta crap rap was not selling and blame the P2P's.
What a fine system these turkeys have, turn out junk and if it doesn't sell blame it on P2P's and if it does sell claim it would have made more money exept for P2P trading.
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Nightshade
Beware the Blue Rabbit
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join:2002-05-26
Salem, OR
| Re: If parents taught their children right from wr Hence the vicious circle of P2P Trading that the RIAA and the MIAA are trying to argue and use in their "crusade" while dragging copyright law through the mud in the process, and all for what?
To protect of their own backwards, self-centered, selfish interests in order to keep as much money as possible within the organization and the record companies, and giving the actors/artists chump change called "Royalites".
Makes me just sick and ill everytime I think about it
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IA
| Re: If parents taught their children right from wr I find it interesting that it's always some unregistered user that's supporting RIAA/BSA/MPAA.
Damn it dude register!
So I can put you on my ignore list and don't have to read your crap.
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