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| The dereg approved by court only applies to Businesses
»www.news.com/Verizon-exemption-c···407.htmlThe exemption gives Verizon the power to charge its business customers and competitive carriers, who use Verizon's local access network to connect to businesses, whatever it likes. That means prices for the use of the network could rise. Verizon, though, argues the move will lead to more competitive pricing and allow it more flexibility in serving customers. | |
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| Re: The dereg approved by court only applies to Businesses said by TK Junk Mail :» www.news.com/Verizon-exemption-c···407.htmlThe exemption gives Verizon the power to charge its business customers and competitive carriers, who use Verizon's local access network to connect to businesses, whatever it likes. That means prices for the use of the network could will rise. Verizon, though, argues the move will lead to more competitive pricing and allow it more flexibility in serving customers. Fixed that quote... -- FWD#: 223611 | |
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| Insane Since Verizon took BILLIONS in taxpayer money, they should be compelled to play by some simple pro-consumer rules like line sharing.
So now, not only do they get to thieve billions from Joe Taxpayer for deployments that never happened, they take sole ownership (read no competition from line sharing) to then put Joe Taxpayer over a barrel.
Thanks FCC, you stupid f*cks. -- Help keep cable rates low; support "Big Cable" in their fight against the extortionists at the NFL Network! | |
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| Re: Insane So what. I own a small business (sole proprietorship) and use DSL as a backup to my Covad Wireless service which could also be impacted by this ruling. My business isn't large enough to warrant paying hundreds a month for T-1 service and I rely on reasonably priced telco wireline data service to conduct my business either directly from Verizon or through resellers of Verizon.
The lameasses at the FCC just gave Verizon the carte blanche to bend me and Covad over for their service and eliminate competitors despite Verizon taking billions in taxpayer dollars (including those $$$ paid by small business owners just like me). Verizon has a long history of overcharging business for services and this will just turn bad into worse.
If Verizon wants to give back the billions they stole from taxpayers, I would reconsider my position. | |
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| Re: Insane said by rcdailey :I wonder whether this case will affect AT&T with regard to their territory and their business customers? Im sure there getting the lube ready as we speak. -- "It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."-George Carlin
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| Re: Insane said by DotMac :AT&T will take joy in doing it without any lube. I stand corrected  -- "It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."-George Carlin
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| Re: Insane said by CrazyTown :
Im sure Verizon would pay back the money they were given to build the Network.. Then the government could reimburse them for the Maint of the network and the cost of running service to every customer that wants a phone, no matter what the cost was.. I would say Verizon would make out to the good in that deal.. These companies should have started putting in a network when they had the chance.. Everyone wants Verizon to Maint the Network and they just ride for free, which is what they are doing with the current regulations.. You're living in a different world than this one... All of the incumbents have never given a dime back except when forced to by the courts..and that has been as rare as hen's teeth. -- God Blesshttp://www.emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com-- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" | |
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| Re: Insane said by cmaenginsb :How does paying more for the loop than what it costs Vz to maintain constitute a free ride? In telco shill logic, anything short of Verizon doing anything it wants constitutes a free ride. | |
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Then the government could reimburse them for the Maint of the network and the cost of running service to every customer that wants a phone, no matter what the cost was.. I would say Verizon would make out to the good in that deal. They do get money for rural deployment, it's call the USF and they do make out good in that deal, often too good as the USF if ripe with fraud. And these USF free-bes are in addition to the billions they stole from taxpayers like those in Pennsylvania who were promised fiber deployment in exchange for $2.1 billion taxpayer dollars. | |
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join:2004-01-06 Richmond, VA | Passed on to Consumers Many stores process payment with card readers that require some internet access. They pay more we pay more. | |
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| Re: Passed on to Consumers true but its a big box store they have a deal worked out already for their internet access chances are it runs over a private network. And thousands of stores already use another form to process cards besides phone anymore. having a dedicated line to each machine is $$$$ and takes time to dial out and get approved then discount and redo it again for the next customer.
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| Great, Bush will love this.. Congress is deadlocked on attacking Iran, Yay that means yes.
WTH Was that Judge thinking. There's no basis in law that states when any comittee in the government fails to make a decision that it means yes. It's a flagrant violation of the seperation of powers. He should of said they must adhere to the current regulations and petition those who are deadlocked to move forward.
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