Cox Announces First Wireless Broadband Markets In Virginia, Omaha, California.... In last year's 700 MHz Advanced Wireless Services (AWS) spectrum auction, Cox Communications won 14 Block A and 8 Block B licenses for bids totaling $304 million. Through a joint venture with Sprint and several other cable companies, Cox also spent $2.37 billion to buy 137 AWS licenses. If those acquisitions didn't make it obvious, Cox is planning to become a wireless voice/broadband carrier. Unlike Comcast and Time Warner Cable however, Cox wants to do more than just resell existing service -- they want to build a wireless network. That build is well underway, but so far Cox has been quiet about specific details for the service.
That changed somewhat today, when Cox reached out to us to announce the first three markets they plan to deploy wireless service: Hampton Roads, Virginia; Omaha, Nebraska, and Orange County, California.
"In our initial markets, we are leveraging Sprint's 3G CDMA network and assets to get to market quicker, while managing every aspect of the service ourselves," Cox tells Broadband Reports. "In parallel, we are building our own wireless network with 3G CDMA for additional market launches that we'll announce in the future," says the cable company. Cox also tells us that they're currently testing LTE technology, for a migration to the faster service sometime down the road.
Cox wouldn't get any more specific about pricing, speeds or caps -- saying they're keeping that close to the vest for "competitive reasons." There's also no solid launch data for these three initial markets, the company only going so far as to say that general availability in the three mentioned will be announced sometime in 2010. The company says they're already offering service in those markets to a small test group of customers.
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| Wonder what speeds are like I'd think that Cox's EvDO network would likely be the fastest out of anyone's since they can just dedicate a channel downstream and upstream to wireless service and power it over their HFC network, which would also be a LOT cheaper than going with T1s.
Also, if they use multiple carriers (entirely possible with the spectrum they purchased) there could be 6+ Mbps of capacity per tower. It's not WiMAX, but it sure beats our typical 3G. | |
|  brianPremium join:2002-05-02 Lake Forest, CA | LTE? why even bother with building out an EVDO network and not go straight to LTE? | |
|  |  | | Re: LTE? because LTE is still in the labs and still being worked out. CDMA is out and works and does work.
Why use LTE when you can deploy WiMax today? -- www.two-pugs.com www.2pugs.etsy.com | |
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2 edits | Because... There are few if any LTE devices available, not to mention it much more expensive to build an LTE network right now. They also probably need funding which means they would have to start selling service, which the most simple way to do so is via 3g service and devices. | |
|  |  iansltx join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO kudos:2 | Re: Because... Yep. This is why US Cellular only recently overlaid their network with EvDO: it's cheap to do now and provides decent, if not stellar, performance. | |
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 | | EVDO & LTE Costs I can understand why EVDO equipment costs would be cheaper (not to mention there's an experienced labor force for installation and maintenance), but could Cox eventually shift all voice traffic to EVDO and use LTE for data only? Is it cost effective to create a system like that? | |
|  |  | | Re: EVDO & LTE Costs Why would you do this? LTE can easily handle both, and, because it is shaping up to be the dominant world standard, there should eventually be plenty of handsets. Using it for both data and voice would make the most sense.
Besides, EVDO is a data standard. I'm sure it could be adapted for voice, but EVDV could've done that, and it wasn't adopted. And if you did try to shoehorn voice into EVDO, you'd either need specialized handsets or software to be loaded onto current devices, neither of which makes much sense at CDMA's late stage of use. | |
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| Re: EVDO & LTE Costs LTE isn't shaping anything, yet, if it will. Everyone is only "testing" with no real plans. VZ is the only one giving time frames, which we all know they most likely will NOT meet for what ever reasons they give.
WiMax has the end-user devices and works. If companies were smart they'd deploy what works TODAY and not what is still in the labs with NO equipment available. -- www.two-pugs.com www.2pugs.etsy.com | |
|  |  |  |  | | Re: EVDO & LTE Costs And they very well could go WiMAX, especially if they want to roam on Sprint, but, whichever way they go, they aren't going to try to retrofit EVDO to do voice. While I'm sure it could be done, there's little point in doing it, considering the cost, the limited deployment (Cox's limited footprint), and the limited time it would be in use. | |
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| I'm sure Cox isn't going to launch an EvDO-only market. Like everyone else, they'll do EvDO Rev. A for data and 1xRTT for voice, albeit with more EvDO carriers and less voice carriers in all likelihood. Then, once LTE is released by someone else (Verizon) they'll upgrade their equipment, since Verizon will buy enough stuff to drive prices down. | |
|  |  |  |  | | Re: EVDO & LTE Costs said by iansltx:I'm sure Cox isn't going to launch an EvDO-only market. Like everyone else, they'll do EvDO Rev. A for data and 1xRTT for voice, albeit with more EvDO carriers and less voice carriers in all likelihood. Then, once LTE is released by someone else (Verizon) they'll upgrade their equipment, since Verizon will buy enough stuff to drive prices down. I like the way you think and sounds very logical on smart business practices. | |
|  |  |  |  | | It won't just be VZW buying. Every major carrier, with the exception of Sprint, has announced plans to go LTE. Cox could end up with WiMAX if they stick with Sprint as a roaming partner, but only time will tell if that happens.
The mix of voice and data could be a tricky one for them. With such limited local coverage, they'll have to undercut the big carriers on price if they want to be competitive for voice, but if they go too low, they run the risk of becoming a bargain carrier like Cricket or MetroPCS. That will get them customers, but they run the risk of overselling their network, which could ruin the experience for data users.
If I were them, I think I'd sell the service like an extended-range home phone. Offer a plan that includes a femtocell that offers fairly cheap unlimited calling, then throw in a modest bucket of cell minutes. That way, the frmtocells will take the brunt of the usage, leaving the cell network uncongested for data users. | |
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| Re: EVDO & LTE Costs Just because you announce plans do go to a certain platform doesn't mean that they'll go.
Plans change. Businesses change. TM made comments about LTE. now they're looking at partnering with Clear. Guess what! ITS WIMAX! -- www.two-pugs.com www.2pugs.etsy.com | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: EVDO & LTE Costs Whether they use LTE or WiMAX is irrelevant, assuming they have adequate roaming partners. What matters more is how they need to price their service to get the customers they want. It depends on whether they want to be voice-centric or data-centric.
As for T-Mobile wanting to partner to grow their network, I suspect that the direction they go with that is going to depend heavily on what direction Europe takes. The T-Mobile brand is used in several countries, and DT has a strong incentive to build an international presence that's as uniform as possible. They have to be aware of Vodafone's unhappiness with VZW for going CDMA instead of GSM, and I'm sure they'll want to minimize such a risk. So if Europe adopts WiMAX, T-Mobile will likely do the same, but if Europe goes LTE, then they'll likely go in that direction. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  Sammer join:2005-12-22 Canonsburg, PA | Re: EVDO & LTE Costs said by ISurfTooMuch:As for T-Mobile wanting to partner to grow their network, I suspect that the direction they go with that is going to depend heavily on what direction Europe takes. The T-Mobile brand is used in several countries, and DT has a strong incentive to build an international presence that's as uniform as possible. They have to be aware of Vodafone's unhappiness with VZW for going CDMA instead of GSM, and I'm sure they'll want to minimize such a risk. So if Europe adopts WiMAX, T-Mobile will likely do the same, but if Europe goes LTE, then they'll likely go in that direction. There is very little bandwidth available for WiMAX in Europe. | |
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 |  |  |  |  patcat88 join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY kudos:1 | said by ISurfTooMuch:It won't just be VZW buying. Every major carrier, with the exception of Sprint, has announced plans to go LTE. Cox could end up with WiMAX if they stick with Sprint as a roaming partner, but only time will tell if that happens. With WiMAX you would be stuck with no roaming partners except Clear, and nobody does WiMAX in AWS in the USA so custom hardware for you. Clear's WiMAX modems only work with 2.3, 2.5, and 3.5 ghz. AWS and 700 aren't on the list. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  kg4icg join:2003-11-16 Herndon, VA | Re: EVDO & LTE Costs You do know that Clear has roaming agreements in Russia and Japan and a few other markets for WImax don't ya? | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  patcat88 join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY kudos:1 | Re: EVDO & LTE Costs said by kg4icg:You do know that Clear has roaming agreements in Russia and Japan and a few other markets for WImax don't ya? How about domestic roaming which Clear subscribers will use (if it exists) much more than international roaming? Or is it going to be like having a Nextel/IDEN phone? basically no domestic roaming. | |
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 ernliz join:2001-11-25 Abilene, TX | Competition for Clearwire! Good for Cox! Hopefully, Abilene, TX, will be in the running for their new broadband market -- to replace the sick Clearwire (Clear) system here. (They ARE talking about wireless Internet for home and business, aren't they?)
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|  |  xrayman join:2008-12-09 Kansas City, MO | Re: Competition for Clearwire! "If those acquisitions didn't make it obvious, Cox is planning to become a wireless voice/broadband carrier." It looks like Cox is also offering wireless Voice as well as Data service. All in one package would be possible: Cable TV, Cable broadband, VOIP, Cell Voice and Data. With that package they could compete against everyone. | |
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