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Cox First To Put Powerboost On DOCSIS 3.0
Kicking new fastest tier to 55Mbps, temporarily...
by Karl Bode Thursday 02-Apr-2009 tags: business · cable · Cox HSI
As we mentioned yesterday, Cox is deploying 50Mbps/5Mbps DOCSIS 3.0 service in Lafayette, Louisiana -- partially in response to a municipal fiber build in the city, where users can get symmetrical 50Mbps service for $57.95. Cox's 50/5 tier is $139.99 ($90 as part of a local offer), but as Cable Digital News explores, it is the first instance where Powerboost has been applied to DOCSIS 3.0 service. Powerboost, which gives users and extra kick of speed for the first few moments of a download, could temporarily boost the tier to about 55Mbps -- assuming network conditions are optimal. The site also offers a video interview with Cox's Jay Rolls.

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MalibuMaxx
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Chesterton, IN
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Not worth it...

hmmm $57.95

or

$139.99...

You do the math...

hmm 82 bucks for 5 more meg thats not even garanteed?
not to mention it doesnt last the whole download... and
since the munifi is symmetrical u can upload at 50 meg...

Doesnt seem worth it to me... its a no brainer...

DarkLogix

join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
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Re: Not worth it...

Ya COX should just back away
they've lost

and why only 55? (comcast does Powerboost to 120)
maybe related to that song "why I can't drive 55" lol

en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
55/50Mbps = ~ 1.1 times faster than current
139.99/57.95 = 2.41 times more expensive
BAD
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dvd536
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Phoenix, AZ
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said by MalibuMaxx:

hmmm $57.95

or

$139.99...

You do the math...

hmm 82 bucks for 5 more meg thats not even garanteed?
not to mention it doesnt last the whole download... and
since the munifi is symmetrical u can upload at 50 meg...

Doesnt seem worth it to me... its a no brainer...
Even at $90, 5mbps upload is a joke compared to the muni's $57 30mbps upload offering.
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fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
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Why only 55mbps

unlock it to its full potential of 340Mbps

Ignite
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UK

Re: Why only 55mbps

said by fifty nine:

unlock it to its full potential of 340Mbps
No production modems with more than 4 tuners so capped to 152Mbps in North America at the moment.
Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO

Re: Why only 55mbps

Ignite

You forgot about the Linksys WCM300. It is available and uses eight channels (down). It is also $340.

»www.cdwg.com/shop/products/defau···=1535158

battleop

join:2005-09-28
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What could you possibly do with 340Mbps at this point in time? I've got 400Mbps at my disposal and it takes work to really suck more than about 60 to 80Mbps at a time.

fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
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Re: Why only 55mbps

said by battleop:

What could you possibly do with 340Mbps at this point in time? I've got 400Mbps at my disposal and it takes work to really suck more than about 60 to 80Mbps at a time.
Video and Online backups.

I have 200Mbps at the office and I use it.

en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

Re: Why only 55mbps

I'm sure that BUSINESSES can make use of +100Mbps, even some casual users as well can use it. Streaming HD, downloading/backing up systems, etc.

'Average' user won't make use of it.
I do wonder how may people will pay more than double their current bill for a paltry 10% increase for the first few seconds of speed ? Also, would it be noticed ?
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N10Cities
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No brainer....

I was typing the same comment that MalibuMaxx had and he beat me posting it....

Hmmmm.....wonder which one is the better value (and probably more consistent speed-wise than cable's shared architecture)? /sarcasm

Yes, I know it is shared at some point down the pipe, but the shared point on the fiber network is probably a lot further upstream than cable.

I know with my FTTH connection, I can get the same speeds any time of the day, while with Cox it would fluctuate greatly depending on time of day....
nweibley

join:2004-12-21
Gainesville, FL

Pricing

The major question is what is the last mile deployment of the municipal FTTH.

If it is reaching a larger portion of the Lafayette population Cox must be joking themselves thinking they'll sell any of the 50/5 tier. If, on the other hand, the municipal FTTH only reaches ~2-5% of the total market but Cox has penetrated (... ...) 40-60% of the market then the price discrimination is obviously favorable.

wifi4milez
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join:2004-08-07
New York, NY

Pure marketing garbage

There is absolutely NO difference between 50Mbps and 55Mbps, this is being done strictly for marketing purposes.

jadebangle
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Re: Pure marketing garbage

said by wifi4milez:

There is absolutely NO difference between 50Mbps and 55Mbps, this is being done strictly for marketing purposes.
well i dont need 50mbps or 55mbps
what i do need is 10mbps or 20mbps symmetrical for a lot less say 29.95 or 39.95
10/10 suit me just fine
55/5 useless, upload pathetic... beside even at 10mbps it plenty fast already... 20mbps is more then enough for most user :\

DarkLogix

join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
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err umm wrong

comcast has powerboost on D3 and has for some time
they just keep it quiet as they might kill it later

it the comcast forum there are reports of 120Mbit powerboost

»[Speed] Docsis 3.0 speed over 120mbps Seattle market

just a case of COX being foolish

jadebangle
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Re: err umm wrong

said by DarkLogix:

comcast has powerboost on D3 and has for some time
they just keep it quiet as they might kill it later

it the comcast forum there are reports of 120Mbit powerboost

»[Speed] Docsis 3.0 speed over 120mbps Seattle market

just a case of COX being foolish
your so called powerboost is a type of steroid that only last a few sec or 10 megabyte of data then drop back to your normal speed...
pretty useless for data only great for speedtest

DarkLogix

join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
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Re: err umm wrong

ya well I've finished 50MB downloads at 38Mbit (thats on D2) so D3 ComcastPowerBoost will be even faster

Ya I think its a lame advertising gimic but still COX wasn't 1st

dadkins
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Hercules, CA
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I get 40-45MB of PowerBoost.
At the speeds I normally get during PowerBoost(single channel - 35mbps) that 40-45MB slips by pretty fast.

When downloading my 100MB files, ya do notice the Boost!
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AstroBoy

join:2008-08-08
Parkville, MD

Cox First To Put Powerboost On DOCSIS 3.0???

What? What about Comcast? I think someone has their facts wrong.
ddevalcourt

join:2004-11-04
Lafayette, LA

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Cox DOCSIS 3 speed test in Lafayette

I have Cox's DOCSIS 3 in Lafayette. From what I can tell they are only now testing powerboost with it however and I don't believe its actually being deployed to customers yet officially.

Only reason I would even mention it is that it seems to be public knowledge now:

»tinyurl.com/czeg8t

Currently the speeds I am seeing are higher then the 55 that powerboost is suppose to reach. I believe the 55 was based on 10% of the 50Mb/s service, so an extra 5. However the results have been more than that so far. I personally would not expect the results I have seen to be typical since its only suppose to be 55 and from what I have read about powerboost it is really only suppose to be available when extra capacity exists on the network. So its no guarantee or anything obviously.

This was done last night:

»www.speedtest.net/result/442721927.png

ztmike
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Re: Cox DOCSIS 3 speed test in Lafayette

said by ddevalcourt:

I have Cox's DOCSIS 3 in Lafayette,
Why would you stick around with Cox when you could get a faster cheaper connection with the fiber connection? If..its available to you that is.

But wow whoever goes with Cox over the competition I'm sorry..but is a complete moron.

Edit: Isn't Comcast 50meg tier have 10mbps upload? Wonder why Cox isn't going with at least 10..my guess would be because Cox isn't capping it?
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jmn1207
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Re: Cox DOCSIS 3 speed test in Lafayette

I've read PR reports that claim people in Japan are leaving their 100/100 NTT FTTP connections for J:COM's 160/10 DOCSIS 3.0 service. I thought that was a bit silly, myself.
ddevalcourt

join:2004-11-04
Lafayette, LA
Its not available to me for one. And I have no interest in a government run service provider to be honest.

I have and am very happy with Cox. It's been way better than any other service I have had (Dish and DTV, BellSouth/AT&T).

They have been providing everything I need and more for a very long time compared to all the others currently available to me.

I have worked from home a LOT for many years using all while using Cox service, running my VPN router to work, Cisco IP phone, video conferencing and so on. I have rarely have been able to fully utilize all the bandwidth my service is suppose to offer to date.

The new service is just icing on the cake for me. The better upload speeds then the prior service helps on the rare occasion when I am trying to do too much at one time and has been extremely beneficial already.
Schoboat

join:2003-11-05
New Orleans, LA
I'd be curious to see what speeds you get if you run the test on the Cox hosted New Orleans speedtest.net server. You can access it directly at »speedtest.no.cox.net.

While the connection is good, the Dallas Speakeasy server is off of the Cox network and you are crossing a NAP.

jmn1207
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Reston, VA

Re: Cox DOCSIS 3 speed test in Lafayette

I'd be much more interested to see a 500MB compressed file downloaded and timed with something like DU Meter. Those speed tests are wonky, especially when Powerboost is being employed. With DU meter, I was able to see exactly when the Powerboost cut off when using Comcast, and I was able to see real results with actual file transfers.

I explained how I tested my FiOS upload in the link below, but you could use the same applications for downloads.

»Re: [ fiber tech] Does Verizon Fios cap upload

jagged

join:2003-07-01
Boynton Beach, FL

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Oh What a Deal

Why would I spend $90-$135 on an inferior product from a big faceless, lieing, company?

I'd sooner give my $60 to the local company who's product is actually better in this case 50Mbps/50Mbps

AND support the salaries of people my community!
Gunner

join:2004-01-29
Carmel, IN

In other news...

Cox execs failed Marketing 101. If you can't compete on speed, then you've got to compete on price there, Cox. You should be selling that 50/5 service for about $45....so you're only about $95 too high; nice work. Honestly, if you're not going to even try, why not just pack it in and call it game over for that market. Probably be more economic than trying to maintain a service than nobody is going to buy.
ddevalcourt

join:2004-11-04
Lafayette, LA

Lafayette Parish - Not just select areas in the city

I think too many people see "Lafayette" and simply think of "Lafayette" and thus compare this with the fiber alternative.

Cox's new service is parish (county) wide. It reaches way more then just the city limits of Lafayette. It reaches all the surrounding communities which are the fast growing communities as well.

The LUS FTTH is only just getting off the ground and is only available to a few select pockets of areas in the city only. Most in the city itself have another year or two before they will have the option. As for those in the surrounding areas they may not ever get the option.

mcfrisch
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join:2000-07-02
Lakewood, OH

I already get half that now!

I did a speedcheck at Pitstop.com from Cleveland to Washington DC. The results were 24/4! I have the Preferred Tier.
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Mcfrisch(Cox HSI : Cleveland)

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