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Cox Having Trouble Metering Usage Accurately
by Karl Bode 08:34AM Friday Sep 27 2013
Add Cox Communications to a long list of ISPs whose usage meters don't appear to be entirely accurate. Our users have recently been complaining in our forums that the company's online usage meter falsely reports usage (both over and under estimates). That's when it's even available; many users have reported the meter only seems to work intermittently.

Omaha ABC affiliate KETV notes that a large number of users in the area were recently told they were consuming too much bandwidth and needed to upgrade their broadband plans. After an investigation, KETV found the notices were sent in error:
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A Cox Communications customer said he received warnings he was using too much Internet data and that he should upgrade his allotment of gigabytes. After a thorough investigation, KETV NewsWatch 7 learned it was a company error. A Council Bluffs man contacted 7 Can Help after Cox Communications told him he had used nearly 600 gigabytes of data in one month. For months, Chris Bond wondered why the numbers didn't add up.
A few years ago Cox Communications clarified that the company imposes what they call "soft" usage caps, which may or may not be enforced depending on the market (see Cox website). Most cable operators are interested in imposing metered billing, but remain wary of the backlash seen by Time Warner Cable back in 2009. As such they're proceeding glacially; usually beginning with a usage meter aimed at "educating" consumers about their usage.

However, there have been countless incidents over the last few years across North America where ISPs haven't been able to meter customers accurately, resulting in users being socked with thousands of dollars in inaccurate overage fees, or being charged for usage even when their power was out or the modem was off. Regulators (both here and in Canada) have repeatedly shown absolutely no interest in working to ensure that usage is measured accurately.

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Mr Matt

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Corrupt lawmakers won't pass laws regulating ISP's.

Rather unfortunate for customers who are fraudulently charged for usage that was inaccurately measured. As long as lawmakers receive their payoffs from lobbyists in the form of campaign contributions consumers are screwed. The only way would be for media to work with consumer organizations to reveal these scams on a regular basis. Until that happens consumers do not have a chance at fair treatment. You can thank the Supreme Fascist Court for making it impossible to file a class action suit regarding such abuse.

BF69
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West Tenness

Re: Corrupt lawmakers won't pass laws regulating ISP's.

The fat is the GOP controls the House and the GOP is typically against regulation of any kind. It doesn't matter if they are corrupt or not they are just ideologically against it. They have this fantastical notion that left to their own devices that business will do what's right without the need of government interference. Even though over 200 years of proof has shown that to not be true.
openbox9
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said by Mr Matt:

The only way would be for media to work with consumer organizations to reveal these scams on a regular basis.

Or for consumers to dispute the discrepancies with their service providers
buzz_4_20

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This seems like a big problem.

How is this happening?
How hard is it to get the logs from the Cable Modem or from the headend equipment?

Sounds like incompetence to me.

Plus, if they can't even figure out how much data is being used, what reasoning is used for implementing a cap?
InvalidError

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Re: This seems like a big problem.

said by buzz_4_20:

Plus, if they can't even figure out how much data is being used, what reasoning is used for implementing a cap?

While they might have problems resolving usage to specific subscribers accurately, MRTG or similar graphs from routers across their network should still give them a pretty accurate idea of how much load individual router ports are seeing both internally and at interfaces between their network and peers/transit. ISPs do need an accurate idea of how much transit they are using if they want to avoid unnecessary peering disputes.

n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY

But It Does Work!

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That's when it's even available; many users have reported the meter only seems to work intermittently.
I'll bet it works only when it comes time to generate the bills. Then it mysteriously "breaks" again.
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brad152

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Meh, 250GB is fair for what most residential customers use

I've never heard anything from neither Cox or CenturyLink about exceeding the 250GB cap, although i do not go over it every month either.

I have no problem having a 250GB soft cap on my CenturyLink 40Mbps DSL line because i only pay $30/mo for it, if i paid the rack rate for the line of $119.99 for pair bonded 40Mbps DSL, then yes i would be upset about it, and i do believe it's fair for someone using 500+GB a month to have to pay more, why should I subsidize someone that's too cheap to pay $55/mo for cable, when i generally use less than 100GB.

skeechan
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Re: Meh, 250GB is fair for what most residential customers use

Cox has recently started sending out Dear A$ nastygrams if you violate the caps.
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Karl Bode
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You pay $30 a month for a 40 Mbps CenturyLink line?
brad152

join:2006-07-27
Phoenix, AZ

Re: Meh, 250GB is fair for what most residential customers use

Yea, i just called and asked what promos were available for me to sign a contract and she offered it to me. I've been paying $30/mo for four years (since it was Qwest), changed from 5Mbps up to 40Mbps now, and still same price.
Deteria

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Caps?

They need to rethink the whole capping. The infrastructure is already there. Someone in the company should have done some statistical calculations to see what speeds the infrastructure can sustain if the avg amount of users are downloading/uploading.

There is no need for a cap as the users are paying for access to such infrastructure. If one paid for 50mbps connections, they should be allowed 50mbps / 8bits / 1024 (MB->GB) * 60 seconds * 60 minutes * 24 hours * ~30 days worth of data per month. Should be about 15820GB/month. Not the mere 250 GB.
InvalidError

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Re: Caps?

said by Deteria:

There is no need for a cap as the users are paying for access to such infrastructure. If one paid for 50mbps connections, they should be allowed 50mbps / 8bits / 1024 (MB->GB) * 60 seconds * 60 minutes * 24 hours * ~30 days worth of data per month. Should be about 15820GB/month. Not the mere 250 GB.

If practical real-world networks were designed that way, most people wouldn't be able to afford internet access faster than 5Mbps because network-building costs would be 10-20X higher.

Consumer internet can be relatively cheap because bandwidth is shared.

Zaxx420

@comcast.net

Awww...

Awwww...poor Cox can't figure out how to accurately stick it to their customers.

/end sarcasm