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Cox today announced they've added eleven new HD channels to their lineup in Fairfax, Virginia, bringing their total to thirty one channels. Cox is slowly upgrading their network to 1Ghz equipment across its entire customer base. The upgrade will allow the cable provider to increase standard definition channels from 100 to 200+ and HD channels from 8 to 100+. Those upgrades should also allow for 25Mbps/4Mbps speeds in between now and DOCSIS 3.0 upgrades.

Cox has also been deploying switched digital video, a technology that keeps unwatched channels at the edge router, freeing up bandwidth. Still, Cox's current total is a far cry from that of DirecTV -- who aims to have 100 channels by the end of this month. Of course DirecTV made the decision in 2004 to use all their satellite capacity for HD, not broadband.

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Plasticman
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This will be interesting to see 25/4 from Cox

I wonder if the New England area will be one of the first to go 25/4? I know in Rhode Island they have already upgraded. So now its just time to wait for them to turn up the throttle and give us more speed.

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Was this supposed to be Big News?

HD ain't all that. In fact, I see nothing about it that makes me want to run out and drop $$$$$$$ on either an "HD" television or the $$$$$$$$$ HD cable lineup, which consists of the same ol' shit only brought to the subscriber at a jacked up pricetag. Considering the programming that is found on television today, I'd rather watch TV with rabbit ears and tin foil b/c that's about what it's worth.

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Re: Was this supposed to be Big News?

said by SilverSurfer See Profile :

HD ain't all that. In fact, I see nothing about it that makes me want to run out and drop $$$$$$$ on either an "HD" television or the $$$$$$$$$ HD cable lineup, which consists of the same ol' shit only brought to the subscriber at a jacked up pricetag. Considering the programming that is found on television today, I'd rather watch TV with rabbit ears and tin foil b/c that's about what it's worth.
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Re: Was this supposed to be Big News?

Omaha already has some of those HD channels
Bio Lizard

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Re: Was this supposed to be Big News?

Every area has different HD channels. The point is that the NoVA area has the most.
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Then you just need one of digital converters. The rabbit ears and tin foil will still work just fine.

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said by SilverSurfer See Profile :

HD ain't all that. In fact, I see nothing about it that makes me want to run out and drop $$$$$$$ on either an "HD" television or the $$$$$$$$$ HD cable lineup, which consists of the same ol' shit only brought to the subscriber at a jacked up pricetag. Considering the programming that is found on television today, I'd rather watch TV with rabbit ears and tin foil b/c that's about what it's worth.
It just so happens that I think it is "all that", and I sprinted out to buy 4 HDTVs over a 2 year span with HDDVRs from both Comcast and Dish on all of em. Additionally, I am impresed that Cox is upgrading their entire system to 1Ghz in addition to SDV and other new things they are implemented.

I think its big news.

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Re: Was this supposed to be Big News?

I have an HDTV... but it's 4:3

Considering a new HDTV costs more than my car and motorcycle's values added together.... I'll stick with my POS tv.

Not everyone is a millionaire.
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Re: Was this supposed to be Big News?

said by Tsume See Profile :

I have an HDTV... but it's 4:3

Considering a new HDTV costs more than my car and motorcycle's values added together.... I'll stick with my POS tv.

Not everyone is a millionaire.
Our HD set (a plasma even) was only $1100, and that was pre-Football Season, and not one of those Visio craps. I am guessing that your motorcycle & car are worth lower hundreds then.

joebill

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Re: Was this supposed to be Big News?

For those of you that seem to be actually happy that your entire existence is worth less than others TV's . Why do you hang out on this tech site and post here. Tech costs money, Dont come here and pout.

Perhaps you would meet others of like mindset if you were to post over on the Goodwill or Salvation Army site.

Our family will be proud of our 5 - 50 inch HD sets and will not worry about your "POS tv"

What a troll...! Move on. Maybe hang out over on Kos and the Leftist their will drum up a "Gubment" Program for you.
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Magnavox, 36" LCD HD 1080i, Office Depot - $499.99... those must be SOME Ford Pinto you have.. and that dirt bike.. oh.. ok.. I'll stop and be nice to you.. my point is that HD TVs are available at the same costs as traditional tubes have been. You may not be able to get a 52" or 65" size TV, but you can still get 26", 32" etc for a damn good price these days.

Hint: don't rule out WalMart, OfficeMax/Depot, etc. Sometimes you find good bargains in the least expected places.

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Re: Was this supposed to be Big News?

I just base my views on the prices at our local Fry's. The only ones sub $1000 are the ones with the red tag which means you pretty much get the display model which has been abused and of course usually has visible picture problems.

My car isn't that crappy, maybe it was an exaggeration... but I'm not far off. '91 Integra and '82 Vision. Reliable but old with high mileage.
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Re: Was this supposed to be Big News?

Well, you don't have to help me understand or bash Fry's.... I used to live in Sacramento... it was home to the returns center. Many of the items from around the state would be shipped into Sacramento and had the White Tag on the box.. they allowed anything to come back and just assumed that people made up excuses that something didn't work in order to get a refund. They'd re-shrink wrap it and put it on the shelf not checking it. (Verified fact)

Seriously.. check places that you wouldn't expect.. you'd be amazed what you can find these days.
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said by Tsume See Profile :

I just base my views on the prices at our local Fry's. The only ones sub $1000 are the ones with the red tag which means you pretty much get the display model which has been abused and of course usually has visible picture problems.

My car isn't that crappy, maybe it was an exaggeration... but I'm not far off. '91 Integra and '82 Vision. Reliable but old with high mileage.
My TV did cost about as much as my car did (a '91 Accord), but that's why I drive an old car, so I can spend the money on things that I find more entertaining.
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Methinks you need to get some glasses (or get your prescription checked)

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said by SilverSurfer See Profile :

HD ain't all that. In fact, I see nothing about it that makes me want to run out and drop $$$$$$$ on either an "HD" television or the $$$$$$$$$ HD cable lineup, which consists of the same ol' shit only brought to the subscriber at a jacked up pricetag. Considering the programming that is found on television today, I'd rather watch TV with rabbit ears and tin foil b/c that's about what it's worth.
LOL... I can't stand to watch SD anymore. I enjoy my HD from my rabbit ears though! Gotta love OTA!
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Hmmn, Dancing with Stars on ABC, Fox Football on Sundays, Sunday Football on CBS, Pretty much any sports game, Primetime (Especially CSI & Bionic Woman), the list goes on.

Like they say, once you go HD, you never go back.
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So? then enjoy your Lawrence Welk programs and little house on the praire stories and let the rest of us enjoy HD.

Like Codee, I too think it's worth all that. Every TV in my home in HD and most of them 1080p with 120hz capability with 4ms response time. It's almost like being there.

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HD ain't all that.
I totally disagree. For me HD really is "all that". It's to the point where I can't stand to watch SD TV channels anymore. There's a lot of shows on Sci Fi channel that I'm really interested in but can't sit through because the picture's so bad. DVD quality is fine, though.

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Fairfax?

Who cares about Fairfax, VA. Here in Florida we have by far the worst cable service. We pay over $20/month PER HD-DVR box (which is the same price as SD-DVR). 53% of my bill is the cost of 2 cable boxes, but I have every possible channel.

Oh and we only have 10 HD channels, half of which are SD transmitted via HD.

Cox also zooms and crops Discovery HD.
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said by joako See Profile :

Cox also zooms and crops Discovery HD.
No, they don't. Discovery does this. Cox sends what they get.
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said by joako See Profile :

Who cares about Fairfax, VA. Here in Florida we have by far the worst cable service. We pay over $20/month PER HD-DVR box (which is the same price as SD-DVR). 53% of my bill is the cost of 2 cable boxes, but I have every possible channel.

Oh and we only have 10 HD channels, half of which are SD transmitted via HD.

Cox also zooms and crops Discovery HD.
If you are gonna rant give all the info...

You posted before that half of your cable bill is included in your rent.
So if you add that back in the boxes aren't half...

And you have a choice if you wish.. Go buy a Tivo or a MCE PC if you don't want to pay for the boxes......

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Re: Fairfax?

I live in the same market he does and subscribe to the same services he does and I can categorically say that he apparently can't comprehend his bill.
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What's number 31?

In Tulsa they have 30 HD channels, if you include HD On Demand, the Cox channel in HD and FSN-SW, which is only rarely on the air, since they have so little HD content and they don't do the Stretch-o-Vision thing when only SD is available.
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Neato. Not that I have an hdtv ...but it is interesting to watch 'hd' on a tube set! Looks good. Actually looks decent compared to the regular local channels that always have some fuzz, color weirdness, or what have you. The Sooners/Mizzou game looked sharp as a tack

Do I just have to call to have all the rest of the 'hd' channels come through? They're supposedly "free" around these parts... and I'd watch 'em, even on my panasonic tube set (sharp for an analog tv). Even comparing regular digital channels to HD, there's a bit of noticeable difference (yes, even on a normal tv)... less pixellation mostly.

As for the whole "sdv" thing, I'm not sold. Sure, it's neat, but it's strange that the channels aren't all being "broadcast" as in standard systems.

DotMac
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Not worth it...

Not to slam Cox but overpriced TV in general. Cable TV used to be a good deal. But the prices have risen out of control while the quality of channels (and their programming) have gone into the sh!tter.

I ended up just canceling 'pay TV' all together. The few shows on cable I did watch like South Park and BSG are available from other outlets (eg iTunes).

I just don't see anything compelling on pay-TV anymore. I was at a friends house yesterday to watch the network NFL games and we were all talking about it (started with the NFL Network ads telling us to call our evil cable company and insist they fork over zillions for that crap channel). One mentioned the old TechTV and I agreed that it was a perfect example of the direction of cable/DBS television. Comcrap gobbles up TechTV merging it with the completely worthless G4 "TV for Gamers" then fires the TechTV staff and kills the shows (except X-Play). Now when we looked at the listings for G4 yesterday endless and I mean endless hours of crap Ninja shows, Star Trek reruns and paid programming. Out of a 24 hour cycle about 4 hours were dedicated to anything remotely computers and it was X-Play, Cinematech, and Cheaters.

So now not only have TV prices gone up substantially (in my area, about 50% in 5 years), now we just get 150 channels of G4-HDNet type garbage and about 5 channels that are barely worth watching like Sci-Fi and NGC.
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Re: Not worth it...

said by DotMac See Profile :

So now not only have TV prices gone up substantially (in my area, about 50% in 5 years), now we just get 150 channels of G4-HDNet type garbage and about 5 channels that are barely worth watching like Sci-Fi and NGC.
While I agree regarding the general decline in quality programming, I must be incredibly lucky or something. 5 years ago I was paying $100 a month for all the channels and a digital box. Now I'm paying $110 for all the channels, a digital box, an HD-DVR, and two cable cards.

My overall bill has gone up much more, though, but that's only because the cable company is now also my ISP.

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Comcast is insane

Their marketing budget is insane and they're just flat out lying.

Everything in the city (even satellite) is plastered with Comcast HD ads and their 3x as many HD channels claim.

My dad has 11 HD channels now with Comcast. Even if they count free HD-OD he's up to 20. I have... about 65 with DTV.

So.... who wants to fudge with numbers on that one?
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said by Mike See Profile :

Their marketing budget is insane and they're just flat out lying.

Everything in the city (even satellite) is plastered with Comcast HD ads and their 3x as many HD channels claim.

My dad has 11 HD channels now with Comcast. Even if they count free HD-OD he's up to 20. I have... about 65 with DTV.

So.... who wants to fudge with numbers on that one?
LOL have of DTVS HD is a east coast west coast.. Dual channels dont freaking count that is just a freaking ploy to even count those.
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TV in itself is getting annoying. Nothing but bugs and ads on the screen. Sometimes I wonder why bother.

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said by cableguy619 See Profile :

LOL have of DTVS HD is a east coast west coast.. Dual channels dont freaking count that is just a freaking ploy to even count those.
LOL, uh OK - we'll take out the whole FOUR west coast feeds of HBO, Showtime, Cinemax & Starz that constitute ALL those extra west coast feeds that "is just a freaking ploy to even count those".

»www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/co···P4380112

Uh, OK - so where are ALL those extra west feeds that you're going on about. That's OK, I'll just keep enjoying the OTHER 60+ EAST HD's out there - green is NOT becoming...
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From Cox to Comcast...

...does it ever end?
thecybernerd
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Channels are NOT LIVE yet...

I went to tune to these new channels and they are not being broadvast yet... So i called tech support and it took the lady 20 minutes just to figure out that there were new hd channels in the line up. They are sending a tech out on wenesday....The funny thing is that my friends who live close by also dont get the channels yet. I am in the northern virginia cox cable system...????????
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Re: Channels are NOT LIVE yet...

Hey man, where are you located? I'm in Fairfax, close to Oakton. I am not able to see the new channels too. Why are they sending a tech?
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Re: Channels are NOT LIVE yet...

because the idiot customer service reps (i have spoken to four so far)have no clue about the hd channel line up additions....

It is false advertising...They have crap all over their site regarding the new channels and their immediate availability....which is complete BS......

lol
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Re: Channels are NOT LIVE yet...

you are joking with this one, right?
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Great Falls and McLean..... near reston
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Re: Channels are NOT LIVE yet...

ok.I hope they do it over the night.I'll wait until tommorow before calling them. I guess too many people will be calling them now .
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Is DirecTV another US West?

Something in this Cox story caught my eye...

"..who aims to have 100 channels by the end of this month. Of course DirecTV made the decision in 2004 to use all their satellite capacity for HD, not broadband."

Several years back, US West decided to put their effort into DSL and not Cellular service.. a move that ultimately cost US West, now Qwest, out of a market that has LOTS of money in it!

While there are HD fans, it makes me wonder if making the move to HD, rather than better broadband, would be a smart move. There is definitely a desire for HD out there.. but does it outweigh the need for better broadband, ESPECIALLY when better broadband could lead the door to more HD.
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Re: Is DirecTV another US West?

IMO a smart move by Dtv. Broadband via satellite = horrible latency issues.
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where the hell you get they hope to have 100 channels at??? I sont se eit in the article... what ya smoking I want some.
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Re: Is DirecTV another US West?

said by cableguy619 See Profile :

where the hell you get they hope to have 100 channels at??? I sont se eit in the article... what ya smoking I want some.
Well, I think you've had enough of what ever you already are smoking.. you need to look at the top of the posting page, actually read *what I cut and pasted in quotes" and you'd have your answer..

You're in SoCal... if you keep going south, I know you can get some better stuff than what you already are smoking.
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Re: Is DirecTV another US West?

lol u cut and pasted Something in this Cox story caught my eye... and etc which lead to the DTV, I thought I read it in as a DTV article, you threw me for a loop there..

Plus the covered up all the tunnels down here
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Re: Is DirecTV another US West?

Yea.. I know... perhaps the internet would help you for a lack of tunnels? haha..

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Hockey+HD=McLovin

I don't have Cox but their is nothing like watching a Hockey game in HD.
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HDTV rules.

HDTV rules. I spent about $2K on a 62" DLP a year and a half ago... It was easily worth it. I suscribe to digital cable but the programming I get via clear QAM is good enough for me right now. There is a HUGE difference between HD and SD. My wife's 80 year old grand parents even appriciate its beauty and bought them selves a 1080p 50" Plasma a couple of weeks ago.
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