 BitPremium join:2009-02-19 00000 2 edits | Pricy Seems these $140+ 50Mb tiers (from Cox, VZ, Comcast etc) are more marketing than anything else, meaning it's so they can claim offering speeds up to 50Mb. $90 is a bit more tolerable but I can't imagine too many people jumping on a $140 tier, especially in this economy.
At least it's uncapped (according to Cox reps in the Cox forum). | |
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 |  Chaldo join:2008-03-18 West Bloomfield, MI | Re: Pricy Yeah, NO CAP I would love to see COMCAST set that. | |
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 |  |  me1212 join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO | Re: Pricy Get a business account they start @ 60 bucks, and have no caps.Its less than $140..... | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: Pricy said by me1212:Get a business account they start @ 60 bucks, and have no caps.Its less than $140..... At least comcast offers uncapped accounts.
PenTeleData doesn't have any uncapped tiers, even for business accounts and they are very expensive. | |
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| Re: why pick Cisco? Like who? I cannot think of a better vendor.
Cisco makes great cable modems, and are the most reliable, in my opinion. Also, if it is a Cisco CMTS some additional features may be available by using a Cisco modem/router.
The reason I think Motorola dominated the market was because they were cheaper. Cisco is always more expensive, but carrier class. Cisco also is a lot more flexible than any other combo. | |
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 |  1 edit | motorola also does Docsis 3.0
it looks like there is the same amount of docsis approved 2.0 modems for cisco/linksys and motorola. They also have motorola headends for the digital tv. | |
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 |  |  DarkLogixPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | Re: why pick Cisco? Ya but to put it in simple terms cisco is cisco nuf said | |
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 |  |  iansltx join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO kudos:2 | SB6120 is a nice modem. Don't know about the Cisco gear... | |
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 |  |  |  DarkLogixPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | Re: why pick Cisco? cisco is the best thats all thats needed to be known | |
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 |  |  |  |  SLDPremium join:2002-04-17 San Francisco, CA 1 edit | Re: why pick Cisco? According to whom? You? I avoid Cisco like the plauge. Their stuff is a pain in the ass to manage, you need a "degree" in IOS, and they don't even support Vista64 with their VPN client. The best? | |
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| Re: why pick Cisco? A "degree" in IOS is not needed, but you do need good experience and knowledge in it to actually use the product to its fullest potential.
Cisco products are really business class. You need someone who knows what they are doing. A Cisco router will far out perform and do far more than any other router I know of. Juniper and the other carrier class routers have the same issue, you have to know what you are doing.
Cisco has provided a GUI interface, which sucks. So does there VPN client, which is not needed if the router is programmed correctly... you can use the typical Windows VPN client, whatever one comes with that particular operating system.
Basically, use an off the shelf router with a pretty GUI and few options to do your routing if you want to. However, Cisco products, if you have the knowledge, are a far better class of equipment. Solid and can do just about anything... far more than any thing you may buy at say Walmart.
This is no different than say a Windows server and a Unix server. If you do not know how to program a Unix server than what good is it to you? However, I would say that uptime on a Unix server compared to a Windows server is considerably higher. Admins use windows servers because they are easy. If you have a person that can correctly configure a Windows and Unix server PLUS has Cisco experience, the earning power of that person doubles, in my opinion. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  SLDPremium join:2002-04-17 San Francisco, CA 1 edit | Re: why pick Cisco? Wow... you have ideas, but not much knowledge. Sounds like the marketing teams have gotten to you. I use 3Com switches in our datacenters, and they perform flawlessly so far up to their 1Gbps potential and now we're moving on to 10G with the same hardware.
I use linux servers for some of our high-traffic websites (Alexa rakings higher than 4000), and Windows on others. These are sites with over 150,000 uniqe visitors per day, and neither Linux or Windows is more or less stable. Each has its purpose, but it isn't a superiority issue.
In one installation, we had to replace Cisco equipment because it couldn't remain stable at 100Mbps - this was after two ISO certified technicians did their best. Faulty equipment? Perhaps. But the 3Com stuff hasn't failed us yet. I'd say Cisco is NOT #1 at this point, just another choice. And now with the aquisition of Linksys, they are more like the McDonalds of routing. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  SLDPremium join:2002-04-17 San Francisco, CA | Re: why pick Cisco? The 3Com switches do it for us. We just setup two VLANS and route the second one over the first and voila - layer 3 routing baby! | |
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 |  Lazlow join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO | Re: What are you going to do with all of that? You can connect to more than one server at a time. | |
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| Lafayette I life near Lafayette/West Lafayette, INDIANA (home to Purdue Uni.), and I swear every time I see something on the main page about Lafayette I get my hopes up until I realize it's Lafayette, Louisiana. LOL -- Asus P5N-E SLI|E4500|2 GB DDR2 800|8800GT|Audigy + Front Bay|Hauppauge PVR-150MCE|Vista Ultimate + XP Pro SP2 dual boot|Sony Vaio VGN-CR290|Sprint Mobile Broadband|Netgear WGR614v8 | |
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 funchordsHelloPremium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Yarmouth Port, MA kudos:5 | Lafayette has broadband... check out North Plains, Oregon Dear Cox (and everyone else),
What about North Plains, Oregon? Here's a town literally 10 minutes from where 50,000 Intel employees go to work. There is dark fiber all over the region, but NO BROADBAND service in North Plains, Oregon.
And if North Plains isn't big enough, add in nearby Banks.
What other cities and towns can you build where you'll actually be helping? -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- World Traveller -- KJ7RL ... Do something! ... | |
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 dcxbox join:2006-12-31 New Orleans, LA | why so much money for so little speed?????
why are they charging so much when you can get a 50 up 50 down connectionfor only $57.95 in lafayette with lafayette fiber network???? this will not get many users to see value in cox. cox charges about 67for non cox users and 57 for cox users for a 15 down connection 1mb up. | |
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 | | this is expensive cox to top that off they also get 100 up down when downloading or whatever with other users on the lafayette fiber network | |
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 | | this is too expensive cox layfayette fiber is also uncapped
tp://lusfiber.com/custom/?id=4
The following Video, Internet and Phone (VIP) bundles have been combined to make your switch to LUS Fiber easy. Or you can build your own bundle and still take advantage of the best rates. Our pricing is simple and straightforward with no confusing promotional rates or hidden costs. Each of our service offerings will be individually discounted. Our full suite of products and channel lineup will be announced in early 2009. Customers will be notified by mail when LUS Fiber is ready to take orders in their area.
VIP - $84.85 Video: Expanded Basic (80+ channels) = $39.95 Internet: Fast 10 Mbps download and upload = $28.95 Phone: Basic Line* = $15.95
VIP Silver - $137.21 Video: Digital Plus (more than 250 digital and HD channels, access to the Internet via TV, Video On Demand, Pay-Per-View) and HD Receiver Rental = $63.31 Internet: Turbo 30 Mbps download and upload = $44.95 Phone: Basic Line* and Premium Phone Features Package** = $28.95
VIP Gold - $199.99 Video: Digital Plus (more than 250 digital and HD channels, access to the Internet via TV, Video On Demand, Pay-Per-View) and All Premium Movie Suites (more than 40 channels) and HD Receiver Rental = $98.09 Internet: Extreme 50 Mbps download and upload = $57.95 Phone: Basic Line, Premium Phone Features Package and Unlimited Long Distance = $43.95 | |
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 |  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 1 edit | Re: this is too expensive cox said by nolaguyfiber :» lusfiber.com/custom/?id=4Our pricing is simple and straightforward with no confusing promotional rates or hidden costs. You have to read the fine print. There is hidden costs not enumerated anywhere in the LUS price lists. Just like from the telcos:
quote: Monthly rates shown are available to residential customers only and do not include required taxes or fees.
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 |  |  | | Re: this is too expensive cox well everyone knows they nhave to pay taxes, same with cox will have as well. i'm sure the $90 price forces you to have cable tv service. | |
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Taxes and fees added are a given, always have been always will be. It is the below the line bogus fees that matter.
It's great, or sad depending on the view, that the best you could come up with to make LUS a negative thing is something that 99% of the paying nation already assumed anyway. WELL PLAYED CHAMP! | |
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 |  |  | | said by Romney2012: You have to read the fine print. There is hidden costs not enumerated anywhere in the LUS price lists. Just like from the telcos: quote: Monthly rates shown are available to residential customers only and do not include required taxes or fees.
Dear TK, please show me a single cable provider's price list which DOES add up taxes and fees. This is an industry practice, not something LUS does to be deceptive. | |
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| They aren't done yet. They're going to make a bundled offer..... Cable, 50 MBPS Fiber, Telephone etc etc and they will make it undercut Layfayette Fiber--- maybe by a lot.
They also WON'T enforce any caps or throttling unless Layfayette Fiber starts doing so or fails.
What they will do is lobby legislatures to cripple Layfayette fiber... with the same "Level the playing field" type arguments. Also expect to see ads and fliers and propaganda lamenting the horrible risks and tax burdens of Municipal FTTH etc etc -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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 woody7Premium join:2000-10-13 Torrance, CA | hmmmmm.... "LUS offers standalone symmetrical 10Mbps for $28.95, 30Mbps for $44.95, and 50Mbps for $57.95. There's no caps, no contracts, no installation fee and users get 100Mbps connectivity to other users on the network."
um why would you use cox?  -- BlooMe | |
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 |  nongobi join:2008-12-03 Lafayette, LA | Re: hmmmmm.... This isn't available in every area of Lafayette right now (FTTH by LUS).
Also, for people like me who are 2 miles too far out for FTTH in Lafayette it's perfect. | |
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 |  | | Because this isn't available in the outer areas of Lafayette and not all of Lafayette is currently hooked up for FTTH. It's going in phases... | |
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 |  |  woody7Premium join:2000-10-13 Torrance, CA | Re: hmmmmm.... so eventually it will be available to everyone? Cox is only doing this for the comp...? -- BlooMe | |
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 Sammer join:2005-12-22 Canonsburg, PA 1 edit | Why does Cox bother? Haven't they read the threads on how muni-broadband is failing everywhere? Now if AT&T was actually running fiber all the way to premises then they would have something to worry about . | |
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 |  Lazlow join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO 1 edit | Re: Why does Cox bother? One of the main reason that some of the muni-broadband has failed is that the big companies massively drop their rates (well below those same company's national rates). This is done to make sure those muni-broadband systems fail. It is very similiar to what Walmart does when it moves into a market, drop prices(short term loss) to put competition out of business then bring prices back to normal (long term profits). | |
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 |  jmn1207Premium join:2000-07-19 Ashburn, VA | To satisfy my own curiosity with regards to failing municipal broadband networks, I perused a few findings from a Google search.
»www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=mu···+failing
It is my opinion, after my brief "investigation", that certain parties with tons of corporate money to throw around have been shoveling manure into their marketing trains in an effort to damage the image of any municipally generated competition.
In short, I don't believe that these attempts by local governments have sincerely failed. There is much more to consider than merely the maximization of profits. | |
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| :p Sounds like Cox is doing FiOS rates...except with freaking-slow 5 Mbps up. They do have PowerBoost, but how far will it go up to?
But when compared with LUS fiber, it falls down flat. I'll take 10/10 over 50/5 any day, especially when 10/10 is $29 per month.
Nice try Cox. Wanna try again?
P.S. This is awesome if they roll it out to non-LUS areas. Now LUS just needs to expand  | |
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I have to give Cox some credit - with prices like LUS has, I thought they'd pack their bags and leave town. You see guys, Louisiana has a law stating that if you lower your prices in one part of the state, you have to do it for every town in the state. Thus Cox can't keep the prices artificially low in Lafayette - it can't afford to give every customer in the state the same deal. Starting a new tier available only in 1 town is their loophole, but even this is too little too late.
Let's compare: $57.95/month for LUS vs. $99.95 for Cox (+installation fee, but minus 45 Mbps on the upload). It's clear who gives the customers a better deal. The key for LUS now is to not allow Cox to gain customers through deceptive advertising. LUS needs to respond with ads of its own, clearly showing that Cox is a much worse deal, both price-wise and speed-wise. | |
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There is no comparing the Cox service to the LUS service. However where this becomes beneficial to others is those living outside of the very limited LUS footprint.
My best friend who works for Cisco, lives in Lafayette in a $400k+ home in a very nice new subdivision and has LUS power but is not even in the first (and currently only) five phases of LUS's rollout. He is literally right on the edge (not even a mile) from where the map stops.
He works 90% from home and does everything over Cox. VPN, Cisco phone, video conferencing, gaming like most have never seen (simply the most amazing game room).
He wanted fiber and would be the ideal type to get fiber, but no such luck.
I told him today about this and he immediately called and signed up. This is huge for him and people like him in the PARISH of Lafayette, not just in Lafayette city limits.
This is where Cox has the edge. And the pricing is very reasonable when you consider the rest of the cable providers DOCSIS 3 pricing for plans like this.
It has its place, and I don't think it should be so easily discredited. Of course many people have the whole "monopoly" mentality when it comes to cable providers so nothing they do will ever be good enough.
Also, this is exactly what the City of Lafayette Pro-Fiber people wanted. They wanted to spur competition. Now they are getting that. Can't please everyone I suppose. People just like to complain, you never really hear about the people who are satisfied. | |
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| Re: Good for Lafayette right now, cox has the advantage of a bigger footprint, but if LUS net ever expands to the city as a whole, then at that point, cox may aswell leave town.
once both services are offered over the same map, then i don't see any way for cox to survive at that pricing. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Good for Lafayette well the difference is Cox serves not only the City of Lafayette and the parish of Lafayette but all the surrounding areas as well.
Not to mention all we are talking about here is internet. To people on this board internet is king, but to 75+% of the people out there even in the city of Lafayette it means little to nothing to them.
Phone and TV is the majority of what the avg. consumer wants and needs and on those fronts neither is much better or worst then the other. | |
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 dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | UPLOAD! C'mon cox, give em some upload. heck you don't even need D3 to do 5 up. lame. -- When I gez aju zavateh na nalechoo more new yonooz tonigh molinigh - Ken Lee | |
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I do not believe there is a $99 install fee for the new service. As I understand it, which might be wrong, but there is a $99 modem purchase fee but no install fee.
They do seem to be requiring a tech to do the install just because signal levels are a little bit more sensitive when dealing with the DOCSIS 3. Thats what I understand anyway, no expert on it by any means. | |
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 | | COX 50Mbps service with THROTTLING read the fine print But they'll cap and THROTTLE you down if you use too much per their new policy. Comcast started this and the FCC jumped all over them.
COX SUCKS but no other options for true speed in todays growing multi-media rich web. | |
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