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Cox Scraps Wireless Plans Completely
No New Sales As of Tomorrow, Support Ends 3/30/12
by Karl Bode 06:53PM Tuesday Nov 15 2011
According to leaked documents obtained by Engadget, Cox Communications is going give up on their plans to be a wireless provider. According to the leaked memo, Cox will stop selling all wireless plans and devices to new customers starting tomorrow, November 16. The memo says Cox will continue to support existing customers until March 30 of 2012, at which point we assume they'll simply be migrated to Sprint.


In 2008's 700 MHz Advanced Wireless Services (AWS) spectrum auction, Cox Communications won 14 Block A and 8 Block B licenses for bids totaling $304 million. Unlike Time Warner Cable and Comcast, Cox wasn't content with piggybacking on Clearwire's network to offer the "quadruple play," and originally planned to build their own network. The original plan was to ride on Sprint's EVDO network, with Cox shifting users to their own LTE service as the build proceeded.

Last November Cox launched the service in portions of Virginia, Omaha, Nebraska and California, and more recently Oklahoma City and Tulsa, Oklahoma. However, the company's pricing, advertised as disruptive, really wasn't. Cox claims that the effort was going well weren't true. In May, Cox decided to scrap the cash and effort they'd put into a network build and simply become a Sprint MVNO. Now they're putting the entire effort to bed completely.

According to the memo, Cox's decision to bail on wireless was driven by significant wireless marketplace shifts since their initial plan to get into the industry back in 2006. The memo acknowledges that Cox lacked the "wireless scale necessary to effectively compete in the marketplace," and also struggled with the "inability to access iconic devices" -- a nod to being unable to offer the iPhone despite being a Sprint MVNO.

"We understand the importance of wireless to the Cox experience and are looking at several options," the memo states. "We will share more information at a later date." The several options mentioned are likely new agreements to resell upcoming Sprint, Clearwire or LightSquared LTE services. While the benefits of a unified bill are generally played up by carriers, such resold services are generally greeted with a yawn by consumers, who usually get better deals going directly to the wireless carrier in question.

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mod_wastrel
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The "benefits of a unified bill"...

Remember long, long ago... when the process of paying bills was itself a hassle: get out the bills, get out the checkbook, get out the stamps, get your pen and write the checks, record the checks, tear off the bill stubs, stuff the envelopes, lick the envelopes, lick the stamps, mail the envelopes (and whatever else you might do--move money from one account to another?).

Now... auto-pay anyone? Worst case... login (by your password manager), click click click, you're done.

Yep, the "benefits" ain't what they used to be.
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dvd536
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Re: The "benefits of a unified bill"...

said by mod_wastrel:

Remember long, long ago... when the process of paying bills was itself a hassle: get out the bills, get out the checkbook, get out the stamps, get your pen and write the checks, record the checks, tear off the bill stubs, stuff the envelopes, lick the envelopes, lick the stamps, mail the envelopes (and whatever else you might do--move money from one account to another?).

Now... auto-pay anyone? Worst case... login (by your password manager), click click click, you're done.

Yep, the "benefits" ain't what they used to be.

Auto-pay? NO THANKS!
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Oh YES! let me drop everything i'm doing regardless of who it affects to deal with your petty little problem!

mod_wastrel
iamwhatiam

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Re: The "benefits of a unified bill"...

I don't use it either, but a lot of people do.

asdfdfdfdfdf

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So what now becomes of cox spectrum holdings?

?
openbox9
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Re: So what now becomes of cox spectrum holdings?

I would assume the spectrum licenses will be sold. Perhaps Cox can leverage the licenses in any sort of MVNO deals that its brokering.
25139889

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Re: So what now becomes of cox spectrum holdings?

Cox will keep them just like every other company. And this is about the MVNO that they created with Sprint.
openbox9
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Re: So what now becomes of cox spectrum holdings?

There's no benefit for Cox to hold the licenses "like every other company" as it drops the plan to build out its wireless network.
patcat88

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Re: So what now becomes of cox spectrum holdings?

Spectrum in the bank has a better return than cash.
openbox9
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Re: So what now becomes of cox spectrum holdings?

Unless you deploy that cash to gain a return. What ROI does unused spectrum give Cox?
patcat88

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Re: So what now becomes of cox spectrum holdings?

Infinite. No investment, pure revenue when they sell it to VZ or ATT.
openbox9
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Re: So what now becomes of cox spectrum holdings?

You're contradicting yourself.

HaloFans

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Sprint would probably be the buyer as the Cable companies don't like the Bell companies for obvious reasons.
openbox9
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Re: So what now becomes of cox spectrum holdings?

Does it make sense for Sprint to add yet another frequency band to its portfolio? Perhaps LightSquared could leverage these licenses to go toward fixing its engineering failure.
WiWavelength

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There seems to be some confusion in the article regarding what spectrum Cox holds and/or has deployed.

The spectrum that Cox acquired at FCC auction in 2008 is Lower 700 MHz spectrum, not AWS spectrum. AWS 2100+1700 MHz spectrum was auctioned in 2006.

Here is an example of a Lower 700 MHz A block 12 MHz license that Cox controls in the Omaha market:

»wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSear···=3025102

Cox had been only testing LTE in its Lower 700 MHz spectrum, so that spectrum has not been put to commercial use.

Now, here is an example of an AWS B block 20 MHz license that Cox controls in the Omaha market:

»wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSear···=3075741

Cox did not acquire its AWS 2100+1700 MHz spectrum directly at FCC auction. Rather, Cox was part of the SpectrumCo consortium (Sprint, Comcast, Time Warner, and Cox) that won about a hundred AWS licenses in the 2006 auction. Cox later exited SpectrumCo and took with it a few dozen whole or partitioned AWS licenses covering its cable markets.

Long story short, in those markets in which Cox has actually launched its own network, Cox has deployed CDMA1X in its AWS 2100+1700 MHz spectrum.

AJ
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oh well

I thought it was totally awkward to walk in to the local office the other day (to pay my final bill) and see a kiosk in the middle that they were piecing together.

There was clearly not enough space for this thing that was half assembled.

The office manager tried to convince me that they were going to offer "awesome deals" even though I was canceling service... I kindly said "no, thanks" and wished them luck.

dvd536
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No such thing

as a "fair cellphone contract"!
25139889

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Toledo, OH

Done Before

Remember when the Cable Co's did this before with Sprint? I forget the name of the company but they always seem to just scrap the deal after it failing due to MVNO's have no real business model. They should have just bought out a company and been done with it.

isdlfh

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Re: Done Before

It was called Mobile Access during the "beta" and then Pivot once it launched.

Worked at Sprint initially during the Mobile Access beta and then supported Sprint stores when I worked for Comcast during the Pivot launch.

isdlfh

@transedge.com
It was called Mobile Access during the "beta" and then Pivot once it launched.

Worked at Sprint initially during the Mobile Access beta and then supported Sprint stores when I worked for Comcast during the Pivot launch.

KrK
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They didn't even try

.... to be competitive in any way. Their "plans" were atrocious. It's no wonder at all they failed.
ak3883

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Portsmouth, RI

Great

No more commercials for it up here in Rhode Island, and one less thing for them to try and sell me.