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| | | Only available in areas where there's fiber of Verizon service areas where there is no other competition TWC will be not deployed DOCSIS 3 it's a shame love to know why it is that Way? | |
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| | | said by neufuse:Time Warner Cable... I think few residential subs would use a 100 down HSI and would hate the price.
Small businesses want it. Sell it to them first. Eventually residential subs will want it for all the video stuff coming.
Most websites outside Japan, Korea, etc. max out on a 20 HSI connection. | |
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| | | | Re: with no/little help from..... D3 gives you more then just speed.... | |
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| | | They have both Verizon FiOS and AT&T Uverse to compete in my part of the world, but Time Warner Cable is asleep here. They better get moving or their customers will start moving. | |
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duranr
join:2006-10-14
Leonia, NJ
1 edit | TWC... ...Give me Docsis 3 speeds or make way for someone else who can.
As for tying it to metered billing, let it go. Seriously. You will only see backlash if you keep insisting on it without clear, tangible evidence that it's needed. | |
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| | | Re: TWC... said by duranr:...Give me Docsis 3 speeds or make way for someone else who can. I'm not aware that someone is stopping a rival cable company or your telco from providing service. In fact now with the statewide franchise it should be easier, no? | |
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| | duranr
join:2006-10-14
Leonia, NJ | Re: TWC... The only other alternative where I am is (slow) DSL from Verizon. They're taking their sweet time bringing FiOS here. It's been "coming soon" for like 4 years now. | |
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| | | | | Re: TWC... said by duranr:The only other alternative where I am is (slow) DSL from Verizon. They're taking their sweet time bringing FiOS here. It's been "coming soon" for like 4 years now. Right. But no one is stopping Verizon (or anyone else) from rolling out FiOS or any other cable service in your area besides Verizon themselves not wanting to do it. | |
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| | |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by duranr:The only other alternative where I am is (slow) DSL from Verizon. They're taking their sweet time bringing FiOS here. It's been "coming soon" for like 4 years now. verizon has slowed wiring new areas and are focusing on existing areas: READ: don't look for fios anytime soon[unless you move to a wired area]
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OK so explain what's stopping a rival cable company (i.e. an overbuilder) from coming to town and wiring up a brand new network?
Apart from money and lack of ROI that is. | |
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| | Try none They got like, what a few hundred DOCSIS 3.0 users in NY and thats it with how many billions in profits? But no no...they don't have enough money so they have to start looking into teired pricing and low caps for the un-educated masses and grandmas. | |
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| | | Re: Try none Unfortunately they report to a board room full of people that want to know why the company isn't making more money than last month.
It always has to be more. Even if you made $30 BILLION last month in profit and all your bills are paid and that $30 BILLION is in the bank and yours to do what you want with... if the next month comes around and they don't have more than $30 BILLION in profit for the month... they fire the management group and hire someone that promises they will make more money for them.
It's a vicious cycle. Because when you've already signed up all the people you possibly can reach... you have to find more ways of getting more money from them AND/or reducing your costs to a point that it will make a positive effect on your profit numbers from now on.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not against them selling a product and making money. I think it's wrong when they reach a critical user base saturation point and keep trying to make more money. I know that's how things work, but it doesn't mean I have to like it. | |
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| | | Re: Hasn't reached me yet, I live in Hooterville! I've been up there (my brother was a volunteer at boggy creek) and that area seems more rural than where I live.
I think I even saw some people using wildblue! | |
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| | | | | Re: Hasn't reached me yet, I live in Hooterville! We have CenturyLink out here too (used to be Embarq) and all I can get from them is 5Mbps DSL, if even. | |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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2 edits | Let's do a rundown... Correct me if I'm missing anyone:
OptimumOnline/Cablevision - 100% upgraded, 101/15 is highest tier
Comcast - 85+% upgraded, 50/10 is highest tier in most markets, some get 100/15, aggressive schedule
Cox - Significant percentage upgraded, 50/5 is highest tier
Suddenlink - Significant percentage upgraded, relatively aggressive schedule, 20/2 is highest tier
Charter - A couple of markets upgraded, 60/5 is highest tier
Mediacom - Some markets deployed, 50/5 highest tier in some markets, 105/10 in others
Midcontinent - All markets (?) upgraded, 50/5 is highest tier
RCN - Several markets upgraded, 60/10 is highest tier for business, 60/6 for consumer (?)
BrightHouse - Some markets upgraded, 40/5 is highest tier, possibly higher tiers coming
Knology - Several markets upgraded, 25/4 is highest tier, higher tiers coming
Service Electric Broadband - Several markets upgraded, 30/2 is highest tier
TWC - Some of NYC upgraded, upstate markets and central TX planned, 50/5 is highest tier
Bend Broadband - 100% upgraded but caps remain, 60/2 is highest tier
Sunflower Broadband - Some markets upgraded, 100% upgraded soon, 50/1 is highest tier (suckiness)
Not sure about Canada, but I think haw, Rogers, Cogeco and Videotron all have D3 packages in at least some areas, with 2-5 Mbps up and 50-100 Mbps down and ridiculous caps.
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1 edit | Re: Let's do a rundown... Last I heard Bresnan (13th largest MSO) was looking into D3 CMTS' but don't think any area is actually served by one - and if they are I am almost certain there is really no advantage of being served by one at least not now. The highest residential tier is 15/1. I, and several others depending on city, have major difficulty even getting there much less any typical D3 tiers as mentioned above. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Comcast
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| Re: Let's do a rundown... D3 should *theoretically* allow for higher speeds even on lower tiers because everything's load-balanced across the various channels. That's why Suddenlink deployed D3 AFAIK, even though their tiers even now top out at 20/2 (they topped out at 12/768 pre-D3). | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Re: Let's do a rundown... I disagree, adding extra DOCSIS 1/2 channels and then assigned modems to channels would work, but that means buying new CMTSes for more coax ports on them, and I think at that point you might as well buy D3 CMTSes. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: Let's do a rundown... The CMTSes are cheap either way. | |
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| dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by iansltx:Correct me if I'm missing anyone: OptimumOnline/Cablevision - 100% upgraded, 101/15 is highest tier Comcast - 85+% upgraded, 50/10 is highest tier in most markets, some get 100/15, aggressive schedule Cox - Significant percentage upgraded, 50/5 is highest tier Suddenlink - Significant percentage upgraded, relatively aggressive schedule, 20/2 is highest tier Charter - A couple of markets upgraded, 60/5 is highest tier Mediacom - Some markets deployed, 50/5 highest tier in some markets, 105/10 in others Midcontinent - All markets (?) upgraded, 50/5 is highest tier RCN - Several markets upgraded, 60/10 is highest tier for business, 60/6 for consumer (?) BrightHouse - Some markets upgraded, 40/5 is highest tier, possibly higher tiers coming Knology - Several markets upgraded, 25/4 is highest tier, higher tiers coming Service Electric Broadband - Several markets upgraded, 30/2 is highest tier TWC - Some of NYC upgraded, upstate markets and central TX planned, 50/5 is highest tier Bend Broadband - 100% upgraded but caps remain, 60/2 is highest tier Sunflower Broadband - Some markets upgraded, 100% upgraded soon, 50/1 is highest tier (suckiness) Not sure about Canada, but I think haw, Rogers, Cogeco and Videotron all have D3 packages in at least some areas, with 2-5 Mbps up and 50-100 Mbps down and ridiculous caps. Am I missing anyone? Do i see a theme here? NONE of these providers with exception of cablevision want to give any sort of upload!
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: Let's do a rundown... When the competition is DSL, they don't need to... | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | said by dvd536:Do i see a theme here? NONE of these providers with exception of cablevision want to give any sort of upload! Because the uploads are still the exact same contention ratio as before D3. D3 adds no upload capacity, so when a cable co ups the upload capacity for the D3 tier, they didn't split any nodes to create that upload capacity. Because of extreme congestion on the upload channels (most systems have only 8 6mhz upstream channels, you must fit DAVIC, DOCSIS for voice, DOCSIS for internet, DOCSIS for VOD, any analog cable TV control channels, and possibly a SCADA system for node/amp/power supply monitoring, and what little upload channels are left can go towards VIP business customers running something special. There is no room for upstream channel bonding on most cable systems. | |
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join:2005-08-09
Manhattan, KS Reviews:
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| Cox does anyone have a news link or map, for cox to show where they are doing their deployments to. Am in central Kansas where we are being told one thing by the techs but am not finding any information on the internet about their deployment schedule. Just looking for something so i can get business applications set. | |
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| Re: Cox said by derfael:does anyone have a news link or map, for cox to show where they are doing their deployments to. Am in central Kansas where we are being told one thing by the techs but am not finding any information on the internet about their deployment schedule. Just looking for something so i can get business applications set. Don't hold your breath. Its a "marketing secret" apparently.
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join:2009-11-23
·Cox HSI
| Low adoption doesn't surprise me They think these higher tiers are gold plated, charging extremely high prices for 50Mb+ service.
Price is king, always has been. They will not see widespread adoption of these higher tiers unless they bring the prices down to a reasonable level. | |
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|  BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: Low adoption doesn't surprise me said by Z80A:They think these higher tiers are gold plated, charging extremely high prices for 50Mb+ service. Price is king, always has been. They will not see widespread adoption of these higher tiers unless they bring the prices down to a reasonable level. Or install low caps or metered billing on those lowers levels. Charter's 60 Mbps Docsis 3.0 tier has no cap vs 250 GB for their 20 Mbps tier and 100 GB for their 5 Mbps and 10 Mbps tiers. | |
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ronus
join:2003-02-09
Dallas, GA
1 edit | Comcast DOCSIS 3.0 Comcast delivers D3 here in Dallas GA., but only on the download. Not on the upload. They doubled my download speed to 16mbps but kept the upload speed at 2mbps. My Motorola modem shows channel bonding on the download (blue light) but not on the upload. I don't think anyone is doing channel bonding on the upload (DOCSIS 3.0) yet. The asymmetry between download and upload speed is getting asinine. They've added two more tiers of service Ultra, and Extreme 50. Extreme 50 has a ludicrous price of 99.95 per month. DOCSIS 3.0 is capable of speeds much higher than this, but the prices probably would be too if those speeds were offered. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: Comcast DOCSIS 3.0 OOL offers 101/15 over D3 for $100... | |
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|  RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY | said by ronus:My Motorola modem shows channel bonding on the download (blue light) but not on the upload. I don't think anyone is doing channel bonding on the upload (DOCSIS 3.0) yet. No-one is due to no modem (or it might be the head end equipment - I forget) being certified for bonded upload yet. | |
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join:2003-09-06
Grand Forks, ND
·Midcontinent Com..
| North Dakota and South Dakota has AREAS! DOCSIS 3.0 technology is currently available in: Baltic, Black Hawk, Box Elder, Canton, Colton, Countryside, Crooks, Ellsworth AFB, Ft. Pierre, Gayville, Harrisburg, Hart Ranch, Humboldt , Huron, Madison, Meade County, Meckling, Miller, Pennington County, Piedmont, Pierre, Rapid City, Renner, Sioux Falls, St. Lawrence, Summerset, Tea, Vermillion, Wosley and Yankton in South Dakota; Arthur, Buffalo, Casselton, Frontier, Harwood, Horace, Hunter, Leonard, Mapleton, Oxbow, Reiles Acres and West Fargo in North Dakota; and in Sabin, Minnesota. These speeds are available to residential customers with MidcoNet Ultimate and business customers with the Advanced Package
for all u folks that live in those areas more tech advanced(or so u say) how mad are you now? | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Comcast
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| Re: North Dakota and South Dakota has AREAS! Not at all, happy for you guys in fact. Midco seems to be good at what they do.
That said, I'm in a Comcast D3 area here. We can get 5 Mbps up or $75 per month i you by the modem outright, or 50 Mbps down, 10 Mbps up for ~$120. These are internet-only prices. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Re: North Dakota and South Dakota has AREAS! said by iansltx:Not at all, happy for you guys in fact. Midco seems to be good at what they do. Midco has always been progressive like OOL. I remember midco has uncapped downloads (38mbps) on one of their plans. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: North Dakota and South Dakota has AREAS! Yep, I remember that as well; have a friend in that area who uses them and they had uncapped DLs until they launched D3. Then they upgraded the package to 25/2 from uncapped/768. | |
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join:2009-09-23
Costa Mesa, CA | Re: Hawaii No. DOCSIS is a cable technology. | |
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