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Springfield, IL | Not a concern yet I would say disinterested, but the majority that have CATV or Satellite, probably never noticed.
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Springfield, IL | Re: Not a concern yet Then, get the $40 coupon, and get the ATSC STB. Or get a new TV set. | |
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1 edit | Re: Not a concern yet Yes man, get get get. Takes money to buy things and some of us aren't independently wealthy or have the means to go and waste money on extras. I'll just wait and see if the box goes down in price. I imagine right now that 40 dollar coupon is only a partial cost of the box. Therefore, hopefully in a year itll be cheaper.
As per your undue response (which I'm sure will follow) you are lucky you get that coupon to begin with, I've got a nice retort. I'll glad take the money our government made from selling off the spectrum at the tax payers expense. After all, we fund the FCC and public airways via our dollars. Therefore, the fact they sold this off at the cost of tax payers means that money SHOULD go back to us to fix what they broke =). | |
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Wichita, KS | Re: Not a concern yet From what I have seen the $40 coupon would make the box around $9 or so. I don't see it going much cheaper than that.
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| | | | | | | Re: Not a concern yet Not horrible but for once I think this profit made off the spectrum should be used to cover the full cost of the boxes. I am not looking for a handout but the government eats our tax dollars and made money here at our expense. Since they made this a problem, this time it's their job to use said profits to remedy it for those affected. I rarely think this is the case but this time around, I actually believe it to be true. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: Not a concern yet Did the government purchase your current television? Unless you're leeching off of the welfare system, no it didn't. TV is for entertainment and isn't a right of anyone. If you want to continue watching OTA broadcasts from full power transmitters after Feb, buy converter, upgrade to a new TV, subscribe to cable/satellite, or pick up a book from the local library for free and enjoy life. | |
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Not a concern yet No they didnt purchase but they damn well used my tax dollars to fund the system in which they are selling and now made a profit from..... | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: Not a concern yet I'm not sure what "system" you're referring to. The system that manages the precious finite spectrum? The system that will benefit from the increase money into the treasury's coffers therefore minimizing your future tax hikes? The emergency response system that will benefit from infrastructure build out? My tax dollars get used for numerous socialist programs that are far more of a sieve than that of the FCC. Of all of the things to complain about, increased revenue, advancement in technology, and the potential for nationwide broadband that everyone around here drools over, isn't very high on the list, IMO. | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Not a concern yet Hah stop future tax hikes. Classic. That's along the same lines of Expecting this administration not to add another trillion to the national deficit before departure. Tax hikes = pay for wasteful spending. Tax rebates, while giving us more money, come at the expense of a devalued dollar. Someone still has to foot the bill. Republicans borrow, borrow, borrow to get it and put the dollar in its current circumstance. Democrats tax to pay for their wasteful misfortunes. Either way, that money added to the treasury has long since been spent. It probably went to buy a few armored cars for that quagmire known as Iraq that has stagnated into it's fifth year... Back to the topic, the system I refer to is the FCC and the PUBLIC AIRWAYS which tax payers funded and owned. That system. Since they made money OFF OUR TAXES, said money should be returned to us in form of absolute free converter boxes. After all, American's funded it. While T.V. isn't a necessity, nor was selling off this spectrum either. | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Not a concern yet Quit whining dude. You should be happy you even get a $40 coupon. Seriously it isn't that big of a deal. If you can't afford a $9 box then you should be worried about other things besides tv. And no, this isn't one of those "It's just the principal..." situations sorry. | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Not a concern yet I can afford 9 dollars. I just think its crap everyone has to go out and get this junk. Now if it was 30 or 40 dollars, I would pass for a while. However, I'm sure I can live with 9. My sentiment still stands, like it or not. The profited and said profit should be returned to tax payers.. O that's right, it isn't our money anymore once they collect it.. (sarcasm). | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Not a concern yet said by jc100:I just think its crap everyone has to go out and get this junk. Nobody is forcing your to "go out and get this junk". You can choose not to spend 2 minutes requesting a coupon and $9 to purchase a converter. | |
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Tulsa, OK Reviews:
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| said by jc100:the system I refer to is the FCC and the PUBLIC AIRWAYS which tax payers funded and owned. That system. Since they made money OFF OUR TAXES, said money should be returned to us in form of absolute free converter boxes. After all, American's funded it. While T.V. isn't a necessity, nor was selling off this spectrum either. You seem to misunderstand. Aside from a few public television networks (usually PBS affiliated), your tax dollars haven't paid for the capital outlays to set up television stations. The only thing your tax dollars were used for was to coordinate the frequency assignments. IOW, the stations aren't hanging from the government teat like so many other industries from whom we get absolutely nothing.
The government is not funding the transition for these stations, even ones with small budgets who can hardly afford to switch to digital. Should the government be paying the transition costs for the stations? I sure don't think so. I think the coupons are more than generous.
In essence, what I'm saying boils down to "funded no, owned yes." Epic fail on your part, really.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Not a concern yet You seem to have failed at every step of your logic. The FCC is publicly funded and owns the airways. Said airways are PUBLIC PROPERTY. Yet, the FCC has FORCED private businesses to switch over. This wasn't a voluntary switch over. While we DO NOT own the stations, WE THE PUBLIC own the airways in which they use. Being the FCC (PUBLIC ENTITY) is forcing said stations (PRIVATE) to switch, we should be given the ability to get our stations at no cost. After all, I don't recall the stations wanting to do it? I recall the FCC (PUBLICLY OWNED) forcing this agenda. | |
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join:2004-01-26
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kudos:2 | said by jc100:Hah stop future tax hikes. I didn't say stop, I said minimize.said by jc100:Back to the topic, the system I refer to is the FCC and the PUBLIC AIRWAYS which tax payers funded and owned. That system. Since they made money OFF OUR TAXES, said money should be returned to us in form of absolute free converter boxes. After all, American's funded it. While T.V. isn't a necessity, nor was selling off this spectrum either. The taxpayers don't fund the "public airways". However, we have been funding the FCC since 1934 so by that argument the Fed should have purchased your original television. BTW, this isn't the first spectrum auction by the FCC. | |
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You also only have 90 days to use the coupon after that you lose it and can't get a new one. | |
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Glen Head, NY
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| said by jc100:Yes man, get get get. Takes money to buy things and some of us aren't independently wealthy or have the means to go and waste money on extras. I'll just wait and see if the box goes down in price. I imagine right now that 40 dollar coupon is only a partial cost of the box. Therefore, hopefully in a year itll be cheaper. The Magnavox converter is $49.95 before tax at Wal*Mart. Using the government coupon it wound up costing me about $11. It works like a charm.
I suspect as we get closer to February 17, 2009, they will get cheaper but I would not expect to see less than $29.95.
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join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
1 edit | Re: Not a concern yet I got the RCA HD converter $47.95 + taxes.
I've been able to get 24 HD channels with a Phillips set of amplified rabbit ears
»www.home-improvement-superstore.···p=807386
I've used up my 2 coupons already
I may just cut my DirecTv altogether.
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Valencia, CA
kudos:1 | Re: Not a concern yet Ooh you're in a lucky "hot" spot of Valencia. I can't get one channel!
Beware before you cancel DirecTV - ABC's signal is hit and miss.
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join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Not a concern yet Yeah - I don't have ABC or FOX
I do get a lot though... I just put the rabbit ears at a 'good' spot on my roof, and hit 26 OTA
Also to note: antenna direction is VERY specific (ie. 99 degrees here) - make note of the direction from antennaweb.org, also, use a GOOD antenna - do not try the RCA indoor/outdoor - POS.
A slight turn in position will lose many channels.
Interestingly enough, I get analog ABC very good, buy no ABC HD. 
2.1 KCBS
4.1 KNBC
4.2 Weather (local)
4.4 RawNews
5.1 KLTA
9.1 KCAL9
30.1 ION
30.2 QUBO
30.3 ION LIFE
30.4 WORSHIP
34.1 KMEX
44.1 KXLA
44.2 KVMD
50.1 KOCE
50.2 KOCE
50.3 DAYS
50.4 KOCE
54.1 KAZA
56.1 KDOC
56.2 KDOC
56.3 BVM
57.1 KJLA
57.2 KMVD
57.4 LATV
I've also had 62.1 and 62.2.
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Anchorage, AK | The only problem with this is that the coupon will expire 90 days after mailing.
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Louisiana | Re: Not a concern yet The Echostar boxes due out this summer will be $40.
If your coupon expires I'm sure a neighbor or relative won't mind getting them for you.
OTA Digital TV is a wonderful thing. I'm still shocked that out in the boonies you can throw up a simple antenna and pick up a bunch of SD and HD channels for free on the HDTV set.
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Rosendale, NY | Here Here!
I concur. The airwaves are PUBLIC property, and should they change the method of delivery, they should either revert back to analog, or give everyone free converter boxes for each and every television they possess. WE THE PEOPLE pay the FCC to look out for OUR interests, NOT those of the corporate elite.
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| | | | | | | | Re: Not a concern yet Its a public spectrum that everyone can use isnt it... you have the right to amplify your signal as you see fit... There are kits out there to do this... | |
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Anchorage, AK | Re: Not a concern yet Nope, you have to follow the FCC regulations on power output.
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Rosendale, NY | Re: Not a concern yet said by jc100:Exactly. The FCC owns the signals. It's the FCC, NOT THE STATIONS, who opted to impose this change. It was not voluntary. The FCC MANDATED this to occur in order to continue to use THEIR AIRWAYS. The FCC owns NOTHING. The airwaves belong to WE THE PEOPLE! In the last 28 years, our country has been for sale to the highest bidder and is becoming one of us the corporations, whereas before 1980, it was WE THE PEOPLE.
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join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL | They are giving "Free" boxes. That is what the Coupons are for. | |
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If you've ordered the coupons now, you won't get until next year to wait and see what happens. The coupons expire 90 days after they're mailed, and once they expire, you can't order new ones.
However, you may not have to wait long. From a CNET article I read not long ago, the box that EchoStar will be releasing should cost $40. If that's true, then the coupon should cover it. I believe the new name for it is the DISH Network TVPal.
As for how the box performs, I got a DigitalStream box a few weeks ago to hook up to my dad's TV, which was connected to an outside antenna with a rotor. I can't tell you how it will perform for you, but I will say this. The box is very forgiving of a weak signal, but only to a point. What you hear about the characteristics of digital signal degradation is very true. You'll either get a great signal or none at all, with a very small area of partly usable signal in between. However, all the boxes I've read about will have an on-screen signal meter to help you adjust your antenna for the best signal. If you're close to the station, then you can get a good signal under almost any circumstances, but as you get farther away, that little meter can really help you out.
Also, the digital subchannels can be interesting. Many stations use them for weather programming or live radar, but some will bring in network feeds that aren't available on another station in the area. One that I really want to see is the Retro Television Network, which is very much like what TV Land used to be when it first launched. Some of the PBS stations and statewide networks are making good use of their subchannels by adding specialty channels, such as PBS Kids and Create. I think many stations are still trying to figure out how to program these channels, so expect to see a lot of experimentation. | |
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join:2001-10-28
Hialeah, FL | The rabbit ears connect to the new converter then the converter connects to the TV. maybe you might need to continue to play the rabbit ear game but maybe not as much. | |
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I am just wondering... if the people that are still using rabbit ears also walk around with a club, live in cages and hunt their food. | |
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| | | | | Re: Not a concern yet said by flyingjoey:Either upgrade or get left behind... Simple as that! I am just wondering... if the people that are still using rabbit ears also walk around with a club, live in cages and hunt their food. No. Many people in rural areas get TV from antennas (but often rooftop antennas and not rabbit ears) because that's the only way they can receive local stations. Yes, satellite is available, but stations from all markets aren't carried, and, in many cases, because of the way markets are defined, people can't subscribe to receive local stations via satellite that they can get just fine over the air. And if you want any kind of local programming such as news, sports, or weather, you have to tune in to a local station. People in these rural areas will often subscribe to satellite for cable channels and use an antenna to receive local stations. And you'd be surprised at how many you can sometimes get. My parents lived in an area between three markets, and they could get 14 channels using a rooftop antenna. They broke down like this:
2 ABC
3 CBS
2 NBC
2 PBS
2 Fox
2 My Network TV
1 TBN
And with digital, add another Fox station, since one of the ABC stations airs Fox on one of its digital subchannels.
For a sports fan, it was great because the stations often carried different games from their parent networks, so you could often choose between quite a few college and pro games on the weekends. | |
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The coupons are only good for 90 days. I purchased a box and the digital signal provides a better picture overall. No need
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Valencia, CA
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| | | | | Re: Not a concern yet So do the people who make comments like yours. I bet you don't see the rationale of how the FCC owns these airways and are FORCIBLY making stations switch. This wasn't a voluntary switch either. The FCC being public funded owns said public airways. YET, it is mandating stations change over. So yes, MY POINT STANDS. | |
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1 edit | said by jc100:I am one of those unlucky people with rabbit ears. I am not disinterested but nor do I feel like being forced to shell out money on a converter. I am still waiting until close to the date to see what those boxes run come 2009. I have put in my order for the coupon so we shall see what happens anyway. On a side note, I can't say I enjoy rabbit ears but the same token, I don't know if I really enjoy having to buy a box to receive a signal. I guess it will depend if this box eliminates the headache of moving the ears around for a signal . I havent done much research into how these boxes work yet. GET THE BOX! You wind up getting MANY more channels. Here in Hollywood with nothing but a two foot piece of Cat 5 wire as an antenna, I get over 50 channels! Why? because most all TV stations broadcast digital on multiple channels. For example the ION affiliate here (channel 30) broadcasts children's programming (Qubo) 24/7 on their 30-2 channel. My kids LOVE it! | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: No matter what; some will never get the word Riots and blood in the streets! | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: No matter what; some will never get the word said by Skippy25:At least it will get them outside again. Out... what?
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| hurfyPremium
join:2002-08-06
Spokane, WA | Do other stations not do the incessant reminders of this that ours do here? Damn scrollng messages in the middle of shows like it is some kind of emergency broadcast :/ Public service announcements every 30 minutes or so, etc.
How anyone affected can't get the message is way beyond me. Most of the messages are pretty clear and specific.
I am already sick of it. Do the digital channels not show these please?? Hell i am ready to switch now if i can get away from the stupid reminders 24/7
The only problem i have is that i probably lose ABC since they put their transmitter 90 degrees away from everyone else. The cheap boxes don't seem to pass-thru the low-power analog which is in the direction of my antenna that works better than the real ABC station. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Re: No matter what; some will never get the word Tough luck, FCC requires 3 times an hour for OTA, and it also requires cable companies to run ads. Do some googling for the exact FCC order. | |
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18
1 edit | Basic/Standard Analog Cable... ... is going to go away too!
One by one, Comcast is going to start removing channels from the analog linups(Basic and Standard - no box) subs.
Here... 11, 15, and 66 have already went to the digital only lineup(TVGuide, CSPAN2, and Hallmark).
Going to have to get a box(or two)...
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join:2001-04-14
Tacoma, WA | Re: Basic/Standard Analog Cable... If I were to buy one, I would get one that has both the NTSC and ATSC tuners.
As some of the low power stations will not be going digital. | |
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| | Comcast DTV I've also confirmed this recently with two different technicians. One at work and one at my house.
The analog "free" stuff that some people are able to sneak without a filter on the line for the basic line up will be unavailable. Just like the analog not being broadcast over the air. Comcast will stop broadcasting in analog on their lines. Digital only will be the way they are going.
So, your right. Going to need to get a box or two from Comcast. I know that the first one is "free" from them. The others are a few bucks a month to rent. | |
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Sterling Heights, MI
4 edits | Will it work even if you have a digital tuner? Do you still get a picture with a Digital signal when you are far away from the broadcasting tower.
Like with analog on how you still get the signal. It just comes in fuzzy looking.
Would be nice to know if I'm going to be able to watch TV when I'm at deer camp or rural campgrounds.
Another question. Does anyone know any converter boxs that will pass digital and analog signles. Canada does not switch over untill 2011. | |
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| | | said by Jwobot:Does anyone know any converter boxs that will pass digital and analog signles. The ones with an asterisk [pass analog]:
»www.ntiadtv.gov/cecb_list.cfm
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join:2002-08-14
Sterling Heights, MI | Re: Will it work even if you have a digital tuner? Thanks jervin123 & mod_wastrel. | |
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join:2001-02-16
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| said by Jwobot:Do you still get a picture with a Digital signal when you are far away from the broadcasting tower. Several stations that I can hardly get in analog (very fuzzy at best) come in great on digital, just with occasional momentary dropouts. I'll take the one second of no picture every few minutes over the almost no picture and almost no sound.
Thanks to the error correction built in, you really only need to receive about 80% of the bits being sent for your receiver to reconstruct the whole stream.
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: The FCC and Feds cannot learn from experience. said by Mr Matt:The Feds and the FCC knew there would be a problem with the transition to DTV and failed to mandate that all TV Sets include ATSC Tuners as well as NTSC Tuners shortly after the transition to digital was scheduled. It is a mandate and has been for over a year now. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: The FCC and Feds cannot learn from experience. I agree. Then maybe we wouldn't have had to postpone the auction and this whole mess would already be behind us. | |
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kudos:1 | said by Mr Matt:I at one time lived in an area in the fringe area of New York City. At that location while I was able to receive VHF Signals I could not receive UHF Signals. Many homeowners that do not have cable or satellite service will loose access to over the air television permanently once the transition is completed. So true. Same thing when analog cellphone service was shut down 2 months ago. | |
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kudos:2 | I refuse to switch My tv works better and i see no reason to switch. Looks like time to take us government to court.
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: I refuse to switch said by 81399672:My tv works better and i see no reason to switch. Looks like time to take us government to court. Wouldn't it just be cheaper to buy a converter?
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kudos:2 | Re: I refuse to switch said by pnh102:said by 81399672:My tv works better and i see no reason to switch. Looks like time to take us government to court. Wouldn't it just be cheaper to buy a converter? Yes much cheaper | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: I refuse to switch said by 81399672:said by pnh102:Wouldn't it just be cheaper to buy a converter? Yes much cheaper Cheaper than $20? Best Buy sells this converter for $60. After your coupon is applied that comes out to $20.
»www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp···95190393
$20 costs more than the gas needed to drive to the court house.
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|  GeekJediRF is Good For YouPremium
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Mukwonago, WI | I agree, because the ability to watch television is guaranteed in the Constitution. | |
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | good luck with that case. there are no laws saying you have to be able to get TV. and most newish TVs have an ATSC tuner anyway.
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Mount Airy, MD | Lame The FCC should have done this years ago! | |
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| Snowy Airwaves give you So Much More. said by mod_wastrel:The best thing that could happen to most people is if they could never watch any TV at all. Less than a tenth of 1% (if that) of what's on is of any worth. Hear Hear.
My last TV went in 1992, the year between my 1st and 2nd child. Of my 5, the youngest two are 6yo and all five have largely grown up in an advertising free home.
We do download some selected tv shows. via bittorrent. Those are mostly overseas ones that aren't available for purchase locally. When they are available; we buy the DVDs.
We have our coupons and plan to buy a box one day. If for no other reason to have the equip on hand if I ever find a need for one. I may not use it for exactly the intended purpose...
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Torrance, CA | hmmm.... Got two of the coupons, and they are good for only 90 days. If some one needs one IM me and I'll send you one if you are going to use it.
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Hingham, MA | Wow... With all this, you'd think television was a basic human right or something... Certainly the "right to watch TV" seems to be taken a lot more seriously than many others. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Wow... If there is no TV, there will be millions of people with nothing to do, so they will riot, loot, and rape in the streets. Analog must stay. | |
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| | lol Well i know this is going to be out there but here a hole in a bucket. I dunno wuts going on really but 2012 is prolly going to have some crazy affects on our lives someway. i think the government is finally stopped the last media voice. more controled systems will emerge. sounds to me that the government is prepareing to control what we see how we see and why we see it. i think all the mumbo jumbo astrolgy god bs is moronic to even beleive. nature is at simple work here. the sun already had its poles shift back in 2000. which only means the earth will shift next. I also find it funny that were building the new bridge from russia to canada to alaska if im not mistaken. btw theres proof the government has been stockpiling supplies but sources wont release data due to life situations of course. sam doesnt play ehh? sence the tv is now controled thruough them completly in 2009.
just a little idea ive drawnbtw this ties ken lay goerge bushes admintration, martha stweret and all the energyshareholders in this country. 2012 will be fun | |
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| | | Re: lol Looks like you will need a converter box in order to continue receiving transmissions from your home planet.
Also wouldn't hurt to put a few more pieces of foil on your hat to pull those signals in clearer. | |
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Westminster, MD | Hmm, what would be most effective here, a spelling/grammar primer or tin foil hat ? | |
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| Raising public awareness I'm in the vendor end of the broadcast business. Some stations are making better efforts at informing the public than others. The FCC should have forced the issue long ago but it has proven a startling lack of awareness of the facts on the ground.
WWL in News Orleans is running a lower third banner display several times a day. It's a running countdown clock to the Feb 2009 analog turn-off. They use gear we sold them to do this.
They only run this display on the existing SD analog channel. No need to run it in the HD/digital channel...that one will remain after the transition.
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4 edits | Flash Cutting... One thing that many TV broadcasters are doing is flash cutting. Here's what it is.
After 2/19/2009, TV broadcasters have to turn ONE channel back in to the FCC. For many of them, the DTV channel they got is inferior to their NTSC (analog) channel. Other TV stations got DTV channels out of the 'core' allotments. The core is channels 2-51, but for example CBS channel 2 in Los Angeles is operating a DTV channel in the sixties.
Many of these broadcasters plan to do a 'flash cut'. What this means is that they will sign off the air with their analog TV signal and a few hours later sign BACK on that channel with a DTV signal. The DTV channel they were running along with the analog will be the one turned back to the FCC.
I know for a fact that all the high band VHF stations (channels 7-13) in Los Angeles are going to do this-they have already notified the FCC of their intention to do so.
This is because DTV works best in the high VHF band (channels 13-7 in that order).
The problem is, if you have a DTV set (or a DTV converter) you're going to have to program its channels again after the transition or many/most of your channels will be gone.
They call this a flash cut because the TV stations plan to do just that-cut from analog to digital in a 'flash'.
Needless to say, there will be a lot of TV engineers hard at work converting transmitters the night of the DTV transition. | |
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Bloom County | I still need to order my coupon I have one TV that is OTA and needs a box unless something were to happen to that TV - then maybe get a small LCD and tunder and get OTA HD.... hmmmmmmmm
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| | What about folks with Emergency portables? I have a very nice water resistant 4" portable AC/DC color LCD TV that i use during severe weather situations here in the Southeast. You know blackouts due to thunderstorm, hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. Trust me - it has proven very useful.
So can somebody tell me of a Digital TV portable solution?
Battery powered and less than $100 USD | |
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No matter what; some will never get the word
The FCC and Feds cannot learn from experience.
When the UHF Band was opened in the early 1950's the cost of a Television with a UHF tuner was outrageously expensive when compared to a TV with VHF only. Many of the first UHF Stations that went on the air went out of business because not enough consumers purchased TV Sets with UHF tuners. The Feds finally fixed the problem when they made it mandatory that all TV Sets sold after a certain date include a UHF Tuner.