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Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
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join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL
|  Once again....
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"Nonstop downloads—that is, you're downloading the content of the Library of Congress using [Code Division Multiple Access] 1X and are connected 24-by-7....are not allowed."
Don't advertise the service as "unlimited" if you aren't prepared to live up to your end of the deal.
K.
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join:2001-09-10
Falls Church, VA | Re: Once again.... Agreed, this kind of switch and bait BS is getting old and hopefully people are getting tired of it aswell. If only people would rally to stop this type of BS advertising I would definately support it. | |
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TheMadSwede
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join:2001-01-30
Holland, MI
 ·Charter Pipeline
| Re: Once again.... said by Nightwchtr  :
...this kind of switch and bait BS is getting old...
You need to bait before you can switch. But anyhow...
Providers need to have some sort of foresight as far as establishing their plans. A bigger problem than them backpedaling on their originally offered plans is that they didn't stop to think that someone would go bandwidth/call/download crazy if they made something unlimited. If they'd stop and think about the future for once instead of being giddy beyond belief with the idea of new subscribers and more dough, then stuff like this wouldn't happen.
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trparky
Bite My Shiny Metal Ass
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join:2000-05-24
Cleveland, OH
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| Re: Once again.... Once again, we need what is above. BS, jese, can't we just get rid of it?
Unlimited means just that, unlimited, not what you think. Until the dictionary says otherwize, unlimited in my book means, without any limit of any kind.
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
clubs: | Re: Once again.... LOL thats funny. Are you batman by any chance? | |
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join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL | Re: Once again.... This what happens when you hire wiz kids that do not know squat about the product. | |
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join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| said by TheMadSwede :
I think some folks around here seriously prefer when a company screws up just so they can bash them.
We bash them not so much for screwing up but for changing the rules mid-game. Don't sell us one thing and then say, "OOOPS, sorry. We need to reduce our responsibility but we won't reduce the price."
What VZ did was not think through their decision. They wanted to get in the game so badly, they forgot to check the details. Someone at VZ screwed up big time.
I have seen cell phone companies advertise unlimited nights and weekends. So if I call a friend Friday at 9pm and leave the phone on and connected until Monday at 5am, is that wrong? No because that is what they offered me. If they want to limit me then don't give me unlimited and then redo my yearly contract. You promised, now deliver. | |
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detth
Onemhz On Aim
join:2000-10-06
Astoria, NY
|  Actually
Unlimited downloads - thats different. download 1 million 1 byte files....
Unlimited use is also different - how you use it is another story.
I guess its kind of those deals with the phone companies - switch to us from your 10 cents per call flat rate -to get unlimited calls! that usually gets lots of people, then they get charged like 8 cents per minute for every call.
- How were my calls restricted or not limited before? lol - get the picture? | |
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GlobalMind
Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
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join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL
| Re: Actually Well the article was quoting the plan as:
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. . .unlimited PCS Vision data access at no extra charge for three months and an additional $10 per month after that.
I don't think a claim that "access" and "downloads" are different things really works. I think that's just mincing of words and really is meaningless.
When they say "unlimited data access" -- what are they saying then? You can connect 24x7 but only download 2k per day? If that's the case then they need to say so.
This is just a simple case of the carrier using vague twists of terminology...and a failure on their part to manage their contracts.
K.
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join:2002-12-14
Novi, MI | Re: Actually It depends on what the definition of 'is' is ;~} | |
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GlobalMind
Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
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join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL |  Re: Actually
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clyde_
It's A Chrysalis, Not A Cocoon
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join:2001-05-02
Easley, SC
| Sprint PCS actually has a clause in their contract against hooking their phones up to a computer and downloading large amounts of data. Not to say it cannot be done, but they have plans with matching prices for that kind of usage. Obviously Verizon didn't have the foresight to see this coming and place limits within their contract.
My question is what kind of people are trying to download 24/7 off their cell phones? Current wireless Internet speeds are just barely broadband. Downloading lots of large files would probably still entail a lot of wait time when compared with cable and DSL speeds. I would hardly find it worthwhile unless you're still on 56K or AOL.
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detth
Onemhz On Aim
join:2000-10-06
Astoria, NY
| Re: Actually No one is limiting you from accessing their network. If that was the case, then rules would be set such as -
you may only access on Fridays and Mondays at such and such a time. You can access the network whenever you want with no restriction. The data transfer is what seems to tick them off.
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join:1999-09-22
Santa Cruz, CA | Re: Actually yeah, cool. access it all you want, just don't USE it for anything? is that it? | |
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join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD
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| Re: Actually HAHAHAHAHA!!! I know right
[text was edited by author 2003-01-08 02:46:52] | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | Right, just like the new Broadband plans, or Long Distance, or Telephone service.
Unlimited access.... but don't actually *use* it... just *pay* for it. | |
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anon4
@charter.com
| Wrong. Actually, I got the Connection Cable *from* a PCS store, when I was *paying* for an 8mb/month plan. At that point, they had NO problem with using the phone with a laptop.
The 'contract' *changed*. After I paid $70 for the cable and connection kit, and got an 8mb plan, they "automatically" switched me to the unlimited plan and said I couldn't use the cable.
So, no, we aren't all bad guys trying to take advantage of poor, poor little Sprint. | |
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| vic102482
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Well your voice is data, all modern cells are digital so its data so what are they talking about? If you are allowed to speak for unlimited times you should be allowed to download for unlimited times.
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garagerock
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join:2002-06-14
Louisville, KY | Lionel Hutz would say.... "do these sound like the actions of a man who had all he could eat?" | |
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Go Chargers7
Fa Shizzle Ma Nizzle
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join:2002-09-24
Huntington Beach, CA | WTF? Whether it's me lipping off or my laptop chirping and squawking, you're paying for the airtime...now they want to regulate what noises can be made with the cheap airtime?
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| Foxbat121
join:2001-04-25
Herndon, VA
| Re: WTF? said by Go Chargers7 :
Whether it's me lipping off or my laptop chirping and squawking, you're paying for the airtime...now they want to regulate what noises can be made with the cheap airtime?
You don't pay any airtime for your data access (hence 'unlimited'). We're talking about the new '3G' network here. Not the old school wireless web. | |
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cyberthugin
join:2002-03-12
Kew Gardens, NY
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| Dictionary
un·lim·it·ed adj. Having no restrictions or controls:
Don't false advertise something and then bitch about it, biatches!!.
[text was edited by author 2003-01-07 16:02:30] | |
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hysteria1
join:2002-11-29
Saint Louis, MO
| Typical!
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purplejello
join:2001-08-23
Reno, NV
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| I understand that they can't offer 'unlimited'... ... but they shouldn't be advertising it if they can't deliver!!!
Someone further up in this thread made a note about 'unlimited downloads' rather than 'unlimited bytes' or something to that extent. Well, the minimum possible size is a bit. So let's say someone downloads an infinite number of one bit files. Hmm... they've now both downloaded an infinite amount of files and and infinite amount of bits!
Cheers,
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Buck Fush
Great Minds With Great Debts.
join:2001-02-24 | Re: I understand that they can't offer 'unlimited'... Exactly, in order for 'downloads' to be unlimited; the 'bytes' have to be unlimited as well. So the 'unlimited downloads' vs 'unlimited bytes' theory doesn't hold. Next? | |
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alanhdsl
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join:1999-10-09
Phoenix, AZ | Unlimited* The odd thing is that there usually is an explicit "catch" for the "free" nights and weekends plans -- they're actually limited to 1000 or 2500 minutes, or something like that. | |
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N2DEEP
join:2000-08-26
Malvern, AR
| The norm is... Try it unlimited and get used to it or find the bugs they missed. Then they have a clause to change your plan and usage at anytime. They change the plan and either you stay and pay more or you pay $200 to leave them. Either way they get there money. We just thought 3G was the next generation is internet solutions. LOL It worked half ass for the day I tried it out at my home, and my cable I got from my work (RS) worked just fine with the FREE software (Sprint) they give anyone who wants to download it. | |
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@attbi.com | Cell Phone Server wonder what the upload is from a cell phone  | |
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join:2000-08-26
Malvern, AR | Re: The norm is... I tried it only once so far on my vision phone and got 35/57 as my speed. I live on the edge of service so it goes in and out. Like dial up speeds for browsing.
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