Deep Space BroadbandMore detail on space laser communications... ( old news - 06:24PM Thursday Nov 08 2007) tags: exclusive · alternatives · bandwidthTipped by mikenolan7  This week a company by the name of Oerklikon announced they'd simulated a 1.5 million mile laser broadband link, which should provide NASA and others with a much wider pipe to transmit mission data. Former Boeing engineer and DSLReports.com user Mike Nolan writes in to tell me he's not sold on the Oerklikon findings, while providing an interesting primer on the state of broadband... in space! (cue music). "Lasercomm is definitely going to replace RF for a lot of applications, fairly soon," admits Mike. "But the numbers that company is advertising about what is available today are off, and the test is kinda meaningless," he says. Nolan provides us with a a link to the Boeing site primer on the TDRS spacecraft, which is outfitted with gear capable of data rates that aren't exactly shabby. How does he know the website is accurate? "I built the antennas," he says. His primary point is that existing communications isn't quite as archaic as we're being led to believe. The relevant part from the Boeing website Mike wanted us to take a look at was this: A unique feature that contributed to Boeing's selection is TDRS' innovative springback antenna design. A pair of 15-foot-diameter, flexible mesh antenna reflectors fold up for launch, then spring back into their original cupped circular shape on orbit. These steerable, single-access antennas can simultaneously transmit and receive at S-band and either Ku-or Ka-band, supporting dual independent two-way communication. The selection of Ku- or Ka-band communications is done on the ground. Receive data rates are 300 megabits/second at Ku- and Ka-band, and 6 Mbps at S-band. The spacecraft carries additional capability for Ka-band receive rates of up to 800 Mbps. Transmit data rates are 25 Mbps for Ku- and Ka-band, and 300 kilobits/second for S-band." Three of these are up there operating in GEO (23,000 miles up), Nolan says. "They are used as relays between the shuttle/space station and the ground station in White Sands, New Mexico -- Shuttle/station use LEO orbits (180 to 300 miles up), so using GEO relays is the only way to communicate continuously with the ground."Nolan says that the problem with laser communication is that simply communicating is easy -- the hard part is getting them correctly aimed at one another over extremely long distances. Reducing the aperture (which is what Oerklikon did to simulate communications over 1.5 million miles) doesn't really demonstrate anything of worth, he says. "I was Boeing's spacecraft designer for the Jupiter Icy Moons Orbiter proposal, which used all sorts of technologies that aren't even invented yet," chides Nolan. "But we chose to stick with an RF communications antenna, because we're probably decades away from being able to point lasers accurately enough to make them useful over interplanetary distances." Related:- Verizon: Our Focus Remains On FTTH
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| Dish Network "the hard part is getting them correctly aimed at one another over extremely long distances."
Maybe they need some Dish techs aligning their beams 
Pun aside, those are some imressive numbers. -- Where have the adults gone? | |
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| Re: Dish Network I wonder why is BB getting faster but if there is no use for bandwidth since they are killing p2p aka bittorrent, usenets They must have an agenda Their planning to move out of earth and into the far away galaxy into the milkyway. The alien on this planet is experimenting with technology Their weaponry have advanced pretty far Shotguns, rifle, grendade Atom bomb. Next, enought power to destroy an entire planet I give you a hint its Haarp messing with natural disaster, boiling the iosphere. Trying to pierce through the sky.
This happened during the ice age aka noah the ark. The ice age is a hoax, the noah ark is for real. There are facts and many evidence to back that up. The star war movies is only a hint to what's gonna happen in the future. Anything that restricts our freedom and rights to life, liberty is not a good thing. "there should be a limit to freedom" Who said that? HD getting really high in capacity Computer getting faster I love technology but I also do not want to be programmed like a computer through censorship and propaganda like on TV. | |
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| I've been waiting... When spring is a bit late, everyone is looking everywhere for it, expectantly. You see a little bit of it here and there and all of a sudden, POOF! There it is in full glory.
Broadband is going to be like that. It's promising to come out here and there. But it will suddenly pop out in full spring glory and no one will be able to stop it.
Right now profit taking and monopolyism is controlling the progress. But there is coming a tipping point. When the general consensus is that the corporate profit advantage is gone, the pipeline will be opened wide to recapture the profitability based on attrition. Can you say- Japan? -- You're an American. You get a free pass, but nobody rides for free. | |
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|  |   Pashune Your average, anemic person. Premium join:2006-04-14 Gautier, MS | Re: Broadband in Space = Spaceband While these numbers are impressive and all, who would worry about ping times?
Or would this not be a problem...despite the signal has to travel so far? -- Wait, what? | |
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