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Delta In-Flight Broadband Within Weeks
While Aircell insists 2009 is when Gogo will shine...
by Karl Bode Thursday 11-Dec-2008 tags: business · wireless · alternatives
According to Aircell, the company behind the Gogo in-flight broadband service, Delta Airlines is on schedule to begin deployment of in-flight broadband within weeks. The carrier previously stated they'd offer the service across their entire fleet in 2009. In a press release, Aircell now declares that they should have service on board 2,000 commercial aircraft by the end of 2009, and "most major US carriers are in advanced discussions with or are already contractually committed to Aircell." Gogo costs users $9.95 on flights of three hours or less, and $12.95 on flights of more than three hours. 92 EVDO cell sites aimed upward, designed to provide 3.1Mbps connectivity to each Gogo enabled plane that passes overhead.

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jc100

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Expensives...But

This is expensive in today's economy. I mean people aren't flying or driving much. While I like the idea of having internet on a plane, 13 dollars is quite a bit. I imagine there is added cost to point the EVDO towers towards the plane and increase the signal. Still, 13 dollars for using internet? That's about 1/2 a month's isp bill. The only time I would think this has use is for Business Travelers or International flights. Short domestic jumps are kind of pointless. Most flights in the U.S. are an hour or two tops. Take a nap, read a book, and get away from life in the short hop. We are already bogged down with a million other things. Why let work follow you unless it has to!

One side note, why couldn't we use our own EVDO card in the plane instead of paying? Seems strange you can't use devices that transmit but they now have internet on the plane.

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Re: Expensives...But

said by jc100:

This is expensive in today's economy. I mean people aren't flying or driving much. While I like the idea of having internet on a plane, 13 dollars is quite a bit. I imagine there is added cost to point the EVDO towers towards the plane and increase the signal. Still, 13 dollars for using internet? That's about 1/2 a month's isp bill. The only time I would think this has use is for Business Travelers or International flights. Short domestic jumps are kind of pointless. Most flights in the U.S. are an hour or two tops. Take a nap, read a book, and get away from life in the short hop. We are already bogged down with a million other things. Why let work follow you unless it has to!

One side note, why couldn't we use our own EVDO card in the plane instead of paying? Seems strange you can't use devices that transmit but they now have internet on the plane.
Two words: business users. They get reimbursed, so no price-based disincentive.
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said by jc100:

One side note, why couldn't we use our own EVDO card in the plane instead of paying? Seems strange you can't use devices that transmit but they now have internet on the plane.
Hmmm... Interesting question. The only things I could think of off the top of my head would be that personal aircard type devices might not be able to get a strong enough signal, or that the networks operating the towers that are aimed upward might have a way of shutting out all but 'authorized' devices.

Can anyone else chime in here, as this is an interesting thought. If personal aircards are technically capable of picking up a signal and letting one use it, I certainly don't have much compunction against pulling out an aircard, using a USB extention cable, and plugging it in to surf whilst cleverly hiding said aircard (that's the purpose of the USB extension cable in this scenario after all). I have a hard time believing that certain death and doom await all those who board planes where all cell phones have not been turned off.
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Re: Expensives...But

I have tried to use mobile phones on airplanes -- it does not work very well.

What I am assuming is that GoGo is running their own network on their own spectrum. Then, obviously, they will not have roaming agreements with the other CDMA carriers (mainly Sprint and Verizon).

The other issue is the signal. There is no doubt they are using special antennas that are better suited than the omni directional antenna in your air card.

If they could offer a $25 package that covers your entire journey, that is includes WiFi in all the airports you are traveling at, then I think it would be a great deal. But I try not to use the Internet when I am traveling otherwise, its too much of a hassle with every airport using different services, and then there is the risk... is that random access point you are connecting to "legit" or was it running off someone's laptop to harvest credit cards?
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said by jc100:

One side note, why couldn't we use our own EVDO card in the plane instead of paying? Seems strange you can't use devices that transmit but they now have internet on the plane.
I am sure the system will go thru an authorization process for the airplanes' wireless device. Any devices not authorized would be ignored.
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jc100

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Re: Expensives...But

Well that wasn't the question TK. I'm wondering why we can't use our own hardware when it would be transmitted all the same as theirs. More or less, if I had an air card that got a signal, why couldn't I just use that instead? Granted, they might have their system set up for an authorization process. Still, what happens if I can get a signal outside their system. Could someone use their own hardware is the question.

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This isn't that expensive, although I wouldn't bother personally for any flight less than 2 hours. On shorter flights, since you can't even have your laptop out for the periods after takeoff and before landing, the actual time you could use it is not very long.

Another commenter asked about multi-segment flights: I don't know how this offering will work, but the old now-defunct Boeing service would give you access for 24 hours I think, so a single purchase worked on multiple segments.

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What About Multi-Segment Flights

So, if I fly from VA to CA, but on a multi-segment flight (more the norm than the exception) do I pay $12.95 for the entire itinerary, or do I pay for each segment? If the latter, then good luck to the airline...
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Re: What About Multi-Segment Flights

said by nixen:

So, if I fly from VA to CA, but on a multi-segment flight (more the norm than the exception) do I pay $12.95 for the entire itinerary, or do I pay for each segment? If the latter, then good luck to the airline...
My bet is it's the latter. Considering how airlines are soaking fliers with ticky-tack charges, you can bet this will be the next product that they will segment with those charges.
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Re: What About Multi-Segment Flights

said by spewak:

said by nixen:

So, if I fly from VA to CA, but on a multi-segment flight (more the norm than the exception) do I pay $12.95 for the entire itinerary, or do I pay for each segment? If the latter, then good luck to the airline...
My bet is it's the latter. Considering how airlines are soaking fliers with ticky-tack charges, you can bet this will be the next product that they will segment with those charges.
And, like the fact that you generally can't do a one-time fee for airport WiFi, but, instead have to pay for each airport of a segment, I would not use the service if that was the billing structure.
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Elite fliers get free access?

Anyone know if Delta plans to offer the internet for free for either elite or 1st class fliers?

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Re: Elite fliers get free access?

said by lengyelc:

Anyone know if Delta plans to offer the internet for free for either elite or 1st class fliers?
For what they pay for their tickets, they should.

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