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| No Surprise Here Yep. Comcrap went out and rounded up some bums, agreed to bussing them to & from the hearing, and paid them -my guess is $20.00 for their time- and to cheer in all the right places for the company. Why is this even news? No person who has even a passing interest in the subject matter would waste an entire day attending a hearing only to fall asleep and/or cheer for the cheesedicks at Comcrap. | |
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 |   worldvision Premium join:2006-05-17 Los Angeles, CA | Re: No Surprise Here not surprise here. Hopefully their spokesman will post respond soon. -- i am not a lawyer but I do play one on the internet | |
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| Re: Great Picture said by CyberSultan :That is a great picture! Looks like any of a dozen of lecture halls at Harvard or any university in America to me....  | |
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join:2007-01-11 | Re: Great Picture Yeah until the disgrunted student walks in.  | |
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Home Depot did that in our town hall meetings here in Sunland. Big companies use these tactics to make it look like they have the support. -- just whiners and complainers... | |
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join:2007-01-11 | Re: tactics Well, they in fact did have supporters. Trouble is that had to pay for them. Which when you think about is something they are used to doing. Just ask any politican.  | |
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| How much you want to bet, those "papers" were non disclosure agreements that they had to sign to get thier money. Id also bet, some of those people dont give a rats rear what they signed, they will talk to anyone about it for another $20.00. -- Vista ~ Less functional every day! | |
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 Smith6612 Premium join:2008-02-01 united state | So... Wouldn't the people at the hearing notice that some people are sleeping though and think that something is up? | |
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more evidence that corporate greed is the 8th wonder of the world. | |
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| Re: sad and funny said by morbo :who can just fall asleep like that?? No one who works a job, pays bills and has taxes to worry about.
Essentially, bums.
Comcast is such a herd of scumbags. I can't wait to evict them from my life... -- Petty people are disproportionably corrupted by petty power
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| said by morbo :who can just fall asleep like that?? ::chuckle:: said by a person who has never attended a goverment meeting. I for one have trouble staying awake at droning, state the obvious (or is it oblivious?) rantings of goverment officials. -- Never chase a dragon with a butterfly net. It annoys the dragon and will probably get you burnt! | |
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| Re: Did they get paid extra to cheer? said by JTRockville : I am sure that was the Comcast employees who attended. | |
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| Re: Did they get paid extra to cheer? said by TK Junk Mail :said by JTRockville : I am sure that was the Comcast employees who attended. ***YOU*** would like to think, huh? -- Man created God in his image : intolerant, sexist, homophobic and violent. | |
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join:2000-05-31 Valencia, CA | Re: Did they get paid extra to cheer? quote: It would have been cheaper to use employees... They're already trained to sleep on the job
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| Sad Nothing anyone can say/do can make this to be a good thing for Comcast. It's messed up and then some. I wonder what they feared by the hundreds of people waiting to get in and say their peace? I thought all those million dollar attorney's could do anything. -- "Where's my coffee? Oh. I guess it's my turn to make it."  | |
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| Re: Sad It is a public meeting. Usually the only ones that ever go to these type of meeting are people to bitch about something. If your service is working fine than my guess they had no incentive to go to this meeting. Go to any city council meeting in any state and you will must likely see what am talking about. Kind of hard to have a fair meeting when all those attending in the crowd are active participants, one way or another. -- »www.seabee.navy.mil | |
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| Re: Sad said by JSRoman :It is a public meeting. Usually the only ones that ever go to these type of meeting are people to bitch about something. If your service is working fine than my guess they had no incentive to go to this meeting. Go to any city council meeting in any state and you will must likely see what am talking about. Kind of hard to have a fair meeting when all those attending in the crowd are active participantsone way or another. So your saying that Comcast has a right to block people from speaking their mind in public hearing regardless? If the FCC actually spent time to set up a hearing, then it is pretty pointless to have a majority of a certain viewpoint represented. Comcast, as a single entity/corporation, is large enough to have a few individuals attend to speak for them. -- "Where's my coffee? Oh. I guess it's my turn to make it."  | |
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| Re: Sad said by Jovi :said by JSRoman :It is a public meeting. Usually the only ones that ever go to these type of meeting are people to bitch about something. If your service is working fine than my guess they had no incentive to go to this meeting. Go to any city council meeting in any state and you will must likely see what am talking about. Kind of hard to have a fair meeting when all those attending in the crowd are active participantsone way or another. So your saying that Comcast has a right to block people from speaking their mind in public hearing regardless? If the FCC actually spent time to set up a hearing, then it is pretty pointless to have a majority of a certain viewpoint represented. Comcast, as a single entity/corporation, is large enough to have a few individuals attend to speak for them. Wise up. This is std practice for every politician running for office and all public meetings. Usually though, those clogging up public meetings are construction union workers and family members of the elected officials that push thru redevelopment projects in every township in America. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page | |
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| Re: Sad said by TK Junk Mail :said by Jovi :said by JSRoman :It is a public meeting. Usually the only ones that ever go to these type of meeting are people to bitch about something. If your service is working fine than my guess they had no incentive to go to this meeting. Go to any city council meeting in any state and you will must likely see what am talking about. Kind of hard to have a fair meeting when all those attending in the crowd are active participantsone way or another. So your saying that Comcast has a right to block people from speaking their mind in public hearing regardless? If the FCC actually spent time to set up a hearing, then it is pretty pointless to have a majority of a certain viewpoint represented. Comcast, as a single entity/corporation, is large enough to have a few individuals attend to speak for them. Wise up. This is std practice for every politician running for office and all public meetings. Usually though, those clogging up public meetings are construction union workers and family members of the elected officials that push thru redevelopment projects in every township in America. I consider myself quite wise actually. Just because it's commonplace, doesn't make it right my friend. -- "Where's my coffee? Oh. I guess it's my turn to make it."  | |
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| said by TK Junk Mail :said by Jovi :said by JSRoman :It is a public meeting. Usually the only ones that ever go to these type of meeting are people to bitch about something. If your service is working fine than my guess they had no incentive to go to this meeting. Go to any city council meeting in any state and you will must likely see what am talking about. Kind of hard to have a fair meeting when all those attending in the crowd are active participantsone way or another. So your saying that Comcast has a right to block people from speaking their mind in public hearing regardless? If the FCC actually spent time to set up a hearing, then it is pretty pointless to have a majority of a certain viewpoint represented. Comcast, as a single entity/corporation, is large enough to have a few individuals attend to speak for them. Wise up. This is std practice for every politician running for office and all public meetings. Usually though, those clogging up public meetings are construction union workers and family members of the elected officials that push thru redevelopment projects in every township in America. Compact paid them to be their. They hired them, this is not standard practice. | |
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| Re: Sad said by worldvision :Comcast paid them to be there. They hired them, this is not standard practice. No, it's not standard practice -- but is it "reasonable network management?" | |
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| Having been to a few of those meetings myself, all I saw was developers and their lawyers, lying through their teeth all too often.
But I suppose if you see an opening to slam someone and something on idealogical grounds, why not take it, right?
You are quite predictable. | |
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| Re: Sad said by TScheisskopf :Having been to a few of those meetings myself, all I saw was developers and their lawyers, lying through their teeth all too often. Since that's all you saw, perhaps you can give one specific example? -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon "We don't throttle any traffic," -Charlie Douglas, Comcast spokesman, on this report. | |
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| Re: Sad Sure. Right here where I live. A developer and his lawyer making all sorts of promises, like a new ladder truck for the fire department and a senior center for the town, while making wild accusations against the town attorney, a man of impeccable ethics.
He got all the approvals he needed, with an ease that was stunning. And the financing. Oh yes, the financing. He has not turned one shovel-full of earth or hammered one nail.
It was a big project too. No union members were seen for miles, at any time. For all the building that took place out here, until the market tanked, the unions were never an issue. In fact, you can probably make a better ideological aside about undocumented aliens, when talking about the building trades around here. Them developers sure do love them some undocumented aliens.
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| Re: Sad Oh, No! Sorry. I was confused. I thought you were saying that "all I saw was developers and their lawyers, lying through their teeth all too often" at the FCC meeting.
I listened to the whole meeting, and what I heard didn't jive with what you said -- that's why I asked. I didn't mean to challenge you about anything other than the FCC meeting. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon "We don't throttle any traffic," -Charlie Douglas, Comcast spokesman, on this report. | |
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join:2005-02-13 Belvidere, NJ | Re: Sad Ok, Robb. No probs. I just wanted to make sure that you didn't think I was entering a dogfight with a Big Wheel.  | |
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| All reports so far are saying that Comcast rep. was drilled pretty hard by FCC and Congressional representatives. Nowhere in any report does it say that the other side couldn't have done the same thing and we will never know because no one asked.
So you would have preferred a meeting filled with people from the other side that would have standing ovation every time someone made pointed remark about Comcast.
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| Re: Sad said by JSRoman :... So you would have preferred a meeting filled with people from the other side that would have standing ovation every time someone made pointed remark about Comcast... I think MOST of us would have preferred a meeting that was not rigged by comcast.
and that's what they did - rig the meeting. for one to suggest that this is in any way appropriate behavior indicates they have suspect ethics or are awfully gullible.
yeah, others may do similar things, but as mentioned earlier, that doesn't make it right.
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| Re: Sad said by nasadude :said by JSRoman :... So you would have preferred a meeting filled with people from the other side that would have standing ovation every time someone made pointed remark about Comcast... I think MOST of us would have preferred a meeting that was not rigged by comcast. and that's what they did - rig the meeting. for one to suggest that this is in any way appropriate behavior indicates they have suspect ethics or are awfully gullible. yeah, others may do similar things, but as mentioned earlier, that doesn't make it right. should be no question now - comcast is one of the evil corporations. How was the meeting rigged? The audience wasn't the ones asking the question. -- »www.seabee.navy.mil | |
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| so is it wrong for a company to hold a few spots for there co workers. i would like to know how many people were payed to be there by comcast. if it was only two or three people no big deal. now if they filled half the room up with people they paid to be there, that is wrong. | |
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| said by JSRoman :All reports so far are saying that Comcast rep. was drilled pretty hard by FCC and Congressional representatives. Nowhere in any report does it say that the other side couldn't have done the same thing and we will never know because no one asked. Bzzzt. Wrongo, bucko.
said by JSRoman :So you would have preferred a meeting filled with people from the other side that would have standing ovation every time someone made pointed remark about Comcast. You obviously didn't attend or listen to the meeting audio. Quite frankly, the audience participation was quite polite. There was polite applause for all of the presenters (except for Comcast's presentation, which brought applause so abnormally loud it might have brought the house down).
Other than that, the audience basically let the meeting happen, with maybe 4-5 spontaneous bursts of applause throughout the day after a presenter (on either side) made a particularly popular point.
said by JSRoman :Rules don't change just because it is Comcast. No, I don't suppose that they do. But it's good to get the facts out so that people can know how clean or slimy the company is behaving throughout this inquiry. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon "We don't throttle any traffic," -Charlie Douglas, Comcast spokesman, on this report. | |
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| wait a minute... So... these people weren't even hired for a music video?
Wow. Extraordinarily lame.
I have to ask. What DID happen at the meeting then? Anything worth reporting? I mean, besides paid bums who were obviously bored enough to sleep.
--- UPDATE --- Comcast admits to paying people to show up... »www.portfolio.com/news-markets/t···Strategy
Link from article linked here at DSLR/BBR... just thought I'd post this link. | |
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| Yes we do, not we don't, yes we do...
Well, they admitted to it:
»www.portfolio.com/news-markets/t···Strategy
So let's see, they:
* Publicly admit to paying people to fill seats (for whatever reason -- don't care what the "truth" is here, the fact that any company would PAY MONEY to fill spots is atrocious) * ...but won't admit to sending spoofed TCP RST packets both directions (to source and destination) * ...won't admit to even using Sandvine equipment * ...despite someone apparently seeing Sandvine boxes in the trash bins (why not recycling bins, dammit?!?!) outside of a facility * ...but depending on who you ask at Comcast, WILL admit to owning Sandvine equipment
180 degrees... And the beat goes on... NO MORE QUESTIONS!! -- Making life hard for others since 1977. I speak for myself and not my employer/affiliates of my employer. | |
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| Dear Comcast Get a Backbone o not understand why Comcast puts up with this crap. It is their network.If the A Democrat what pull the net socialism crap ten I would have a poison pill. If it was me:
If net Neutrality Laws are pass them immediately all broadband will be cap at 3Megs max. 2. It will not be in our interest to upgrade the connection. 3. we will pursue private upgrade options for customers willing to pay. If you the customer, do any thing than degrades the node,we will gladly refund your last payment, terminate all services, and send a technician to cut and remove the cable from your property. Google can go to hell. If Google wants to complain we can have our lawyers make a contract to wave any liabilities and we can meet in any box gym or street conner to settle it like men. If you can knock me out you win or I going to wipe the floor with wiry whiny ass face send you back to your hole in an ambulance. The only way I will listen to Google if the CEO fights me. Heck we will put on UFC pay per view. [see my reply] | |
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  yuutomo The Wonder Kitter Premium join:2001-08-27 Missoula, MT | What A Load of Comcrap.. I am not surprised the fucked over people that were willing to tear them a new one over their BS tactics, and I hope the FCC takes this act seriously and crucifies the whole company big time. | |
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| Re: What A Load of Comcrap.. said by yuutomo :I hope the FCC takes this act seriously and crucifies the whole company big time. That'll happen.  | |
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join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | This is the reason Net Neutrality laws needed If Comcast's view was right they wouldn't need to lower themselves to using dirty tricks. Not to mention anything that Comcast is for generally isn't good. | |
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| Sorry for my earlier post The "KKKarl" reference is a long standing political jab (political blogs) at Karl Rove and his tactics during the past two elections, and CON was in caps to allude to "con" artists. It had nothing to do with 'news guy' Karl, and I shouldn't have posted it in any event.
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