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3 edits | If this is true...... What a bunch of crap it seems to me it would make filtering a whole bunch easier. You could say alright you want to do porn ok then you have to register on the .xxx domain. Sure there is no forcing off shore porno vendors to go to .xxx but is sure would be helpful in those countries that might require it.
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| Re: If this is true...... Maybe they are trying to ward off potential liabilities when someone plays the censorship card. I mean, using the public library computers wouldn't be fun anymore, and those previously 'doing their thing' will have to go back to the magazine racks in the basement to have their fun. | |
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Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
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| Re: If this is true...... Magazines worked for me, I remember the first Hustler Magazine I looked at as a teenager snort, drool, pant. 
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1 edit | Re: If this is true...... said by TKJunkMail  :Having an xxx domain wasn't going to do anything that the company promoting it said it would. And that is - segregate all porn into one place where it could be blocked by those who didn't want it. The porn industry could still use .com or .country initials, etc. So it was just another place they could sell their services. I think the only one who cares is the company who was going to manage the new domain's registrations and collect all the fees. Of course, your post - once again - has nothing to do with the matter at hand, namely that did the US hijack ICANN?
We all know that it did, upon request of Falwell-like lunatic evangelist retards. | |
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R4M0N
Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
join:2000-10-04
Glen Allen, VA | Re: If this is true...... How about posting the proof that it did. As far as I know, the government can lobby for what it wants, just like any lobbying group.
To say it hijacked ICANN must be proven by facts that showit forced ICANN to do something it didn't want to. | |
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| said by kamm :said by TKJunkMail :Having an xxx domain wasn't going to do anything that the company promoting it said it would. And that is - segregate all porn into one place where it could be blocked by those who didn't want it. The porn industry could still use .com or .country initials, etc. So it was just another place they could sell their services. I think the only one who cares is the company who was going to manage the new domain's registrations and collect all the fees. Of course, your post - once again - has nothing to do with the matter at hand, namely that did the US hijack ICANN?We all know that it did, upon request of Falwell-like lunatic evangelist retards. Still waiting for your proof.
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Too Many Cannibals
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3 edits | Re: If this is true...... said by 72276539 :Still waiting for your proof. Better bring a chair. You're gonna be waiting for a long time....and wading thru a whole lot of randomly bold text
-edit 21:23 Eastern- the silence is substantial {/snickers}
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| said by 72276539 :said by kamm :said by TKJunkMail :Having an xxx domain wasn't going to do anything that the company promoting it said it would. And that is - segregate all porn into one place where it could be blocked by those who didn't want it. The porn industry could still use .com or .country initials, etc. So it was just another place they could sell their services. I think the only one who cares is the company who was going to manage the new domain's registrations and collect all the fees. Of course, your post - once again - has nothing to do with the matter at hand, namely that did the US hijack ICANN?We all know that it did, upon request of Falwell-like lunatic evangelist retards. Still waiting for your proof. You will be waiting, well, forever. | |
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Too Many Cannibals
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| Re: If this is true...... said by Cheese :You will be waiting, well, forever. Not forever apparently, just until this drops off the front page, then professor Kamm (he's the one who said it, not me) will grace us with his presense by quickly getting the last word in hoping no one notices.
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| Re: If this is true...... said by Combat Chuck :said by Cheese :You will be waiting, well, forever. Not forever apparently, just until this drops off the front page, then professor Kamm (he's the one who said it, not me) will grace us with his presense by quickly getting the last word in hoping no one notices. Figures. | |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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| Re: If this is true...... By the way, he just posted again there...right after this one dropped off the main page.
hey I think I'll link it again
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| Re: If this is true...... Yea, go look at this news item, »Cablevision Sued for Network 'DVR' Plan, and since he is on ignore  , I am sure he has insulted me on my level of education, or something like he usually does, it's pretty sad a 40 year old man acts the way he does if he really is 40. | |
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Too Many Cannibals
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2 edits | Re: If this is true...... said by Cheese :I am sure he has insulted me on my level of education, or something like he usually does, it's pretty sad a 40 year old man acts the way he does if he really is 40. I doubt he's over 20
Just link to that other thread and that'll keep 'im quiet for a couple days.
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| Re: If this is true...... said by Combat Chuck :said by Cheese :I am sure he has insulted me on my level of education, or something like he usually does, it's pretty sad a 40 year old man acts the way he does if he really is 40. I doubt he's over 20 That's what I am thinking, but, alas, I give the fool the benefit of the doubt on his age. But like I said, if he is truly 40, he has to have one seriously pathetic life to act the way he does. Oh, and just for his amusement, I am 30 since he keeps referring to me as a "kid". I know kids that have a much higher maturity level than this clown has. | |
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join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
| You won't find any proof of the government hijacking ICANN, because ICANN just dropped a stupid idea, they weren't forced into anything by the US government. The only ones that say they did, are going to be the cry babies that want the UN to control the internet, even though the US created it. | |
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rit56
join:2000-12-01
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| Tkjunkmail........ well, well, well.....suddenly you're not pro business. what happened? are you ashamed of sex and sexuality? I'm not and as a tax paying citizen I think it's a good idea. contrary to what most right wing cabal members are writing here it will centralize porn and make it easier for parents to block their kids from viewing it. typical Republican misinformed hide your head under a rock reaction. know why porn is so prevalent? because major blue chip corporations on the stock exchange are making tons of money from it.... money dictates in the USA. you people are amazing. anything you don't like or agree with there is no margin.... well most men and a lot of women like porn for the most part so it's not going away. learn to live with it. | |
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Too Many Cannibals
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| Re: If this is true...... said by rit56 :I'm not and as a tax paying citizen I think it's a good idea. contrary to what most right wing cabal members are writing here it will centralize porn and make it easier for parents to block their kids from viewing it. Oh yes cause all the .com porn sites will suddenly move over to .xxx....oh wait, no, no they won't as no one is being forced over to the domain nor should they.
All .xxx does is provide another domain that porn sites that want brand consistency have to buy and non porn sites have to buy to avoid being associated with porn.
Boy this topic bring out all the idiots, raving lunatics happy shiny people.
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R4M0N
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1 edit | Re: If this is true...... I had not thought about that one point. People (corps. and individuals) being almost forced to buy a .xxx domain just to keep their name from being associated with porn. | |
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2 edits | Re: If this is true...... said by R4M0N :I had not thought about that one point. People (corps. and individuals) being almost forced to buy a .xxx domain just to keep their name from being associated with porn. Few people did, which is part of the reason why this whole .xxx situation is a lose lose situation for ICANN and the DOC. The DOC can't say it's against xxx cause they were lobbied by the stupid uber-right christian groups (who have a habit of opening their big mouths both without understanding the situation, and in the same manner they berate the left wing groups of doing); but they can't be for it because xxx is one of the stupidest ideas ever once you look into it, and it would usher in another era of cybersquatting people like Microsoft and Apple.
Then there's the whole, if it goes thru we now have to fix it deal, which means we're now back into the whole issue of figuring out how to quantitatively decide what is porn and the cries of censorship that brings, as well as reconciling it with everyone else in the world.
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join:2000-09-13
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| Keep in mind the root servers control all. If they want to stop anything, then they can stop it with a few simple keystrokes/mouse clicks and about 6 hours of replication.
Personally I dont even think the .com ones need to go away because of the above. Just have any request to one's .com site redirect to .xxx and the intended filters can still work. | |
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| This is why I think that complete and total "Net Neutrality" is needed, and also for ICANN and the DNS system. I don't like pr0n, but ICANN (which has "governance" over the Internet) should be allowed to make its own sovereign policies and not those influenced by governments or corporations. If a country wants to filter out objectional material on the Internet that is on its own turf, fine let them do that.Due to the nature of the Internet and the DNS system it has been shown that ANY country that has power and influence over the Internet will bend it to its will, which will affect everybody. | |
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1 edit | Re: If this is true...... said by net idiot :
This is why I think that complete and total "Net Neutrality" is needed, and also for ICANN and the DNS system. I don't like pr0n, but ICANN (which has "governance" over the Internet) should be allowed to make its own sovereign policies and not those influenced by governments or corporations. If a country wants to filter out objectional material on the Internet that is on its own turf, fine let them do that.Due to the nature of the Internet and the DNS system it has been shown that ANY country that has power and influence over the Internet will bend it to its will, which will affect everybody.
You never gonna get that as long as 10 out of the 13 root servers on US soil and half of them under direct DoD or other US govermental or educational control.
No way.
I, for one, fully support OSRN:»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORSN - and don't think it's an accident that Paul Vixie has joined OSRN last year. | |
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| Re: If this is true...... said by kamm :You never gonna get that as long as 10 out of the 13 root servers on US soil and half of them under direct DoD or other US govermental or educational control.No way. Placement of a root name server is no trivial matter. You don't just say "we need less centralization: let's plop one down here". You do that, and you create pointless degradation in the whole DNS system. There's a number of white papers on the topic.
Simply put, you put root name servers where there's lots of bandwidth and lots of peering points. If you look at the root servers that are hosted in the US, most of them are in the DC area, LA area and SF-bay area. All three are extremely densely peered areas with TONS of bandwidth.
You don't put a root name server in Nigeria just to meet some diversity quota. You have to analyze, is Nigeria a good technical choice for doing so. Does putting a root nameserver array there significantly reduce lookup latency for a large number of DNS clients.
said by kamm :I, for one, fully support OSRN:» en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORSN - and don't think it's an accident that Paul Vixie has joined OSRN last year. So... Are you a root name server operator, then? What, exactly, does your "support" comprise? What's the "value add"?
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1 edit | said by net idiot :
This is why I think that complete and total "Net Neutrality" is needed, and also for ICANN and the DNS system. I don't like pr0n, but ICANN (which has "governance" over the Internet) should be allowed to make its own sovereign policies and not those influenced by governments or corporations. If a country wants to filter out objectional material on the Internet that is on its own turf, fine let them do that.Due to the nature of the Internet and the DNS system it has been shown that ANY country that has power and influence over the Internet will bend it to its will, which will affect everybody.
I agre with most of your post, except for the "filtering out" part. Who decides what is "objectional material" and how about letting the individual make the decision to filter out the particular material?
I'm all for the idea of a .xxx domain, but I'm afraid it would not have much effect on the problem.
Porn peddlers will just move to a foreign server and continue doing what they do now: register domains like whitehouse.com, etc... | |
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join:2001-04-11
Tampa, FL
| Considering I run a small, adult oriented web site on the side, I am totally against the XXX domain.
I do not spam, and I take steps to ensure that my users are of legal age in their country to use the site.
This is nothing but blatant censorship, and another way to generate further revenue.
They will have to pry my .COM address from my cold, dead, hands.
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Kompressor
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| Why make a domain for porn? There's already porn on every domain, why add another?
And porn isn't the only bad thing on the Internet, go to rotten.com or democrats.org for example.
Wouldn't it be better and easier if they came out with a .Kid domain and you only allow your kids to access .kid sites instead of trying to move all porn (only) to a new domain?
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| I See It Now.... The .xxx domain goes through, and then the government says YOU MUST move to the .xxx domain if you have sexually explicit material on your 'site, then the moonbats will be screaming about that.
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Fairbanks, AK | The prices for .xxx were horribly overpriced I can go to godaddy.com and buy a .com, .net, or .org domain for $8.95
This company wanted to charge $65 for a .xxx domain.
Their suing because they would make tens of millions for charging $65 a friggin pop for a .xxx domain. | |
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Camden, TN
| This is all BS Doesn't matter if the US government interfered or not. The fact is one of the main stipulations in order to get .XXX pass was that .XXX HAD to have industry support. ICM said it did. This TOTALLY and completely false. That means ICM in fact LIED in it's application. That fact alone is enough to deny their appeal regardless of what the US did or didn't do. | |
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Did Uncle Sam Pressure ICANN Over .XXX?
