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DirecTV 11 Satellite Launches March 17
New bird will boost DirecTV HD capacity to 150 national channels...
by Karl Bode Friday 07-Mar-2008 tags: satellite · bandwidth · HDTV
Sea Launch has issued a press release stating that DirecTV's newest satellite, DirecTV 11, is scheduled for a March 17 launch. DirecTV is already leading the industry with the number of HD channels they provide, and the Sea Launch says the new satellite will boost DirecTV's capacity to 150 national HD channels. The company will also be capable of supporting spot beams carrying 1,500 local HD channels. Some technical launch specifics from the Sea Launch crew:

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Upon arrival at the launch site at 154 degrees West Longitude, the team will ballast the platform to launch depth and initiate a 72-hour countdown. During this period, they will perform a final series of tests on the launch system and the spacecraft. At launch, a Zenit-3SL vehicle will insert the 5,923 kg (13,058 lb) DIRECTV 11 satellite into geosynchronous transfer orbit, on its way to a final orbital location of 99.2 degrees West Longitude. Sea Launch will provide live coverage of the DIRECTV 11 mission via satellite and on the company website, beginning at 3:30 pm PDT (22:30 GMT) on March 17.

Though it's expected that most carriers will narrow the total HD channel gap by later this year, DirecTV's 2004 decision to use their satellites for HD instead of broadband is currently paying decent dividends.

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caco
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150 HD Channels

Are they even that many channels in HD currently available?
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JeepMatt
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Re: 150 HD Channels

No, but that's why they said "capacity".
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caco
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Re: 150 HD Channels

So in the future they will offer QVC in HD. Man, those steak knives are going to look sweet!
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Camelot One
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Re: 150 HD Channels

said by caco:

So in the future they will offer QVC in HD. Man, those steak knives are going to look sweet!
Yep, and they'll jack of the package price across the board to pay for it.
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said by caco:

Are they even that many channels in HD currently available?
On c band there is over that easy.

Lumberjack
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Now, if I could only get good signal to more than 2 sats...

Since they put the new dish on my house for HD I've had various issues. At install time it took the installers 3 trips, then finally a sr. tech to get it right (or so I thought). Then this last time they still haven't gotten it right along with DTV billing wanting to charge me twice even though I still have minor signal problems. Hopefully Monday they get it finalized. After that any signal problems == Verizon TV.
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guhuna
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Re: Now, if I could only get good signal to more than 2 sats...

You ain't the only one with that issue.

5 service calls later the "contractor" FINALLY got it fixed. Too little to late.

Karl Bode
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Re: Now, if I could only get good signal to more than 2 sats...

Were you two dealing with a receiver that wouldn't connect to some channels unless you reboot constantly? "Searching for Satellite 1" error?

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Re: Now, if I could only get good signal to more than 2 sats...

If I remember it was searching for satellite but I dont remember the one, and the reboots didn't fix it.

I dont know the model # of the box all I know its black and has a blue swirl on the face of it when it turns on.

Either way its fixed, didn't mean to derail the thread.

Neoistheone

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Re: Now, if I could only get good signal to more than 2 sats...

HR21?

Lumberjack
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The first time they were out it was just a flat out poor install. This last round was a rebirth of that post-wind storm. It hadn't even been 10 months yet.

The Sr. tech that came out did a great job. He added mono poles to stabilize it (the damn thing is on the top of my roof), replaced the LNB and tweaked it like crazy. Except for TNT and a couple other HD channels it's just about perfect.

What really got me mad was looking at my bill with an $80 service call. Sure, if they get it the first time and it works and I don't have the "protection" plan I'll pay it fine. But three attempts and it's still not quite right and I went through this hassle before in less than a year... hell no. So at this point a tech is supposed to be out Monday (same guy I hope) and hopefully he can find out the last little problems. They also gave me a $60 programming credit ($10 for 6 mo) and removed the service call charge.

They constantly reminded me that without the protection plan if they had to come out after the service call warranty I'd have to pay the $80 fee. I said that barring a hurricane ripping the dish off the roof, the next time I call due to a problem with signal, it would be to cancel service. In other words, don't worry about me complaining next time.

I really love DTV when it works. All the HD channels (50" plasma) are nice and I'm a big fan of their DVR vs. the TiVos. The only thing that could be better is if they supported dual tuner buffers like the TiVos. Though I can't say I've even missed that feature all that much.
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Alpine
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Re: Now, if I could only get good signal to more than 2 sats...

There's actually a workaround in the newer software versions for the "dual buffers" issue you mentioned. It isn't as seamless as the Tivo solution, but it does work.

www.dbstalk.com has it and a massive amount of other information on DTV and Dish service, receivers, etc.
CopperMux

join:2005-01-18
+1 on that. 6 months and now my 3rd service visit for the same issue. I have a 9 day wait for a tech to fix it. DTV claims they can do nothing. WTF? 9 Days? Back to Comcast if this doesnt clear up with this tech.

Jerm

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Richland, WA
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Nice!

I watch DTV HD all the time, it rocks. The MPEG4 compression looks better than the MPEG2 OTA HD I pick up from the broadcast stations around here - go fig!

Now want to see something really cool? NASA has sat modeling software that will allow you to see exactly where the sat's are in relation to the earth and all! Really cool. They have DTV 1-9 in their software - check it out here:

»science.nasa.gov/Realtime/jtrack···k3D.html

(expand the window full screen, play with the zoom, select "sat" from the menu, then pick one of the Directv ones from the list, really neat! - also change the update rate to 1/4 second and 100x realtime to see how the sats move around the earth)

Nicksterr

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sweet

go directv. one of the decent companies out there. they also have a terrific marketing and advertising department. have you seen their commercials? =p

Matt
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Great Quality

I was also impressed with the HD quality of DTV. After hearing all the nay-sayer's ragging on the MPEG4 compression, I was worried, but it looks way better than my Time Warner cable ever did.

I do miss my DVR (not drilling holes in my walls) and I can't wait for the single wire multiswitch to come out. I've also had a few signal problems in the snow and the really heavy rain the other night, but it quickly cleared up.

kyler13
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Re: Great Quality

Compression isn't the problem with Directv. It's the resampling of the image to remove 33% of the resolution that puts it behind the pack of terrestrial providers. MPEG4 has proved to be just as good if not better than MPEG2. Not sure about Comcast's position, but I believe the Verizon boxes are MPEG4 capable for future expansion. Makes sense because it substantially reduces the required bandwidth necessary to broadcast a particular channel.
Talis

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Houston, TX

Kinda off-topic, but ...

That is one cool looking satellite!
wolfhouse

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Westfield, NJ

wow..

never realized there were satellites launched from the ocean.... Pretty nice.

Mike
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Re: wow..

Only NASA has a decent land area to launch things into space.

You need all that area in case they explode and debris goes everywhere.
wolfhouse

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Re: wow..

I think Arianespace is doing fine with its Guyane site.

linflas

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Manassas, VA
The satellite DTV put up last summer (DTV 10) was launched from Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. They even brought up a channel for people to watch the launch if they were interested.
DMS1

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The key thing for a geosynchronous satellite is to launch it as close to the equator as possible. Doing so makes it easier to manoeuvre into position and requires less fuel on the satellite itself. Whilst the equator passes through plenty of dry-land, there are not many suitable sites. Factors such as accessibility, security and safety all need to be considered. This makes launching from the sea an attractive proposition. It does however have its drawbacks - the DirecTV 11 launch is later than planned because the prior Sea Launch mission was delayed by heavy seas.

Mr Big

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Re: wow..

The equator is irrelevant, it's a geosynchronous orbit not a geostationary one.
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Re: wow..

said by Mr Big :

The equator is irrelevant, it's a geosynchronous orbit not a geostationary one.
The equator is absolutely relevant, and it's a geostationary orbit.

If the satellite's orbit was not over the equator then it would appear to move around when viewed from the earth.

LEVIACUS

@cox.net

Re: wow..

Technically they are both - DirecTV satellites are in a Geosynchronous orbit ---but if over the equator, this specific geosynchronous orbit is called a geostationary orbit- just as DMS1 pointed out, when you have a geosynchronous orbit over the equator, it appears stationary (we don't want to be aligning those small dishes all day and night do we?)

Big

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Re: wow..

Yeah, he's right.

Big

@charter.com
Thanks for the correction. I don't know what I was thinking.
claco

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Dear DishNetwork

Wake the hell up. Thank you. That is all.

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Re: Dear DishNetwork

DTV FTW!!

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Dish Network

Well I have had Dish for about three months now and I have had no major issues. I have all the HD I need right now. I pretty much watch everything in HD.

The main reason I went with Dish was because of the 30 second skip button. Five or six pushes of the button and I am back at the show. After having ReplayTV for years that was one feature that was a must have. I hate commercials and I record everything we watch. The only draw back is when someone makes a joke about a commercial I have no idea what they are talking about.

One surprise I had was I have not lost the signal because of the weather.

Things I wish the would change
1. $5 surcharge for not having a land line phone. I got rid of the land line a few years ago and have not missed it once. The only people that used it were telemarketers.
2. Get up to date and let me order movies with the broadband.
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Neoistheone

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Umm???

So dose this mean that the new satellite they are installing on my house tomorrow is gonna be out of date when they finally pull this new dish in to place?
I just got an HDTV and updated to the Ka/Ku dish. And and HR20/21 (They said if I don't get the Receiver I want tell the installer to take it back to the warehouse and get it, DirecTVs CSR not me)
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The2ndclory

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Confused

I thought they already had a SAT in the 99 degree slot....
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DMS1

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Re: Confused

said by The2ndclory:

I thought they already had a SAT in the 99 degree slot....
Each degree of a geosynchronous orbit represents about 460 miles. I'm sure they can fit another satellite in the gap.
mikenolan7
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They are allowed to co-locate spacecraft in a single orbital slot with their own spacecraft. The reason co-location isn't generally allowed is to prevent RF interference, not collisions. They can interfere with themselves all they want (which they don't, of course).
An orbital slot is based on likelihood of interference, not necessarily a fixed 1 degree allocation.

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said by The2ndclory:

I thought they already had a SAT in the 99 degree slot....
Probably the first SAT is a DBS bird transmitting between 12.2GHz and 12.7GHz.

They are going to park a new Ku band 11.7GHz to 12.2GHz Bird next to the DBS one.

Same Dish alignment but twice the channel space, plus more spot beams, ect....
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dennismurphy
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Re: Confused

said by KA3SGM:

said by The2ndclory:

I thought they already had a SAT in the 99 degree slot....
Probably the first SAT is a DBS bird transmitting between 12.2GHz and 12.7GHz.

They are going to park a new Ku band 11.7GHz to 12.2GHz Bird next to the DBS one.

Same Dish alignment but twice the channel space, plus more spot beams, ect....
Actually - the existing bird at the 99 slot is SPACEWAY-2. That's a Ka band bird. DIRECTV-11 will also be Ka band.

DIRECTV-11 will be using a 500mhz-wide band which was originally slated for two-way Internet communication with SPACEWAY-2. That feature was disabled on SPACEWAY-2 when it was repurposed for DirecTV.

KrK
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Probably going to CATO.....

... Blow up on the pad.... or fail to make orbit....

Rob A
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Might for it

As long as the upgrade ain't too expensive.

gunner1
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Dish Network

I am sorry I did not mean to open a can of worms or bash DTV. I had DTV about five years ago and it was fine.

I looked at DTV and Dish. I just found everything I liked with Dish. I am not saying DTV does not have the same so chill out fan-boys. I just really liked what Dish was offering with the VIP722 receiver and the way it was presented on their website. Other then the $5 fee and not being able to download movies on demand with the remote I am more then happy.

Now back to the topic, 150 HD channels will be fine if there is something there worth watching.
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PolarBear03
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Re: Dish Network

The $5 fee is because your ONE receiver outputs SEPARATE programming to TWO TVs. It is very similar to adding a second DirecTV receiver to watch programming on a second TV; you'd have a $5 "mirroring" fee. The catch with Dish is, IF you plug in a phone line, then they'll "waive" the fee.

So essentially, it's not that you're paying the fee because you don't have a phone line, you get to not pay the fee if you do have a phone line.

No, it doesn't make sense to me, and I think E* and DTV both need to realize that landlines are a dying breed. However, DTV is getting smarter; their HDDVRs can be plugged into a broadband connection instead.

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