 Reviews:
 ·Pioneer Wireless
| So, here's my takeaway from this. DirecTV acknowledges that some cord cutting is based on price increases.
DirecTV and Content producers know this, yet keep raising those prices.
Raising the price to make up for customers that leave cause the price is too high seems like a zero sum game to me. | |
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 | | | Re: So, here's my takeaway from this. yet they will lose another 48,000 or more customers so they wont gain anything | |
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 ·Verizon FiOS
 ·voip.ms
| DirecTV has innovated. Their boxes are far more advanced then anything I can get from TWC or Verizon and when I had them I was satisfied except for their shady practices of renewing contracts (which my AG quickly settled) and the overall cost. From that, I will never do business with them again, EVER.
Now DTV is a platform which does ONLY TV, so for them to win:
1. They need to hope that broadband still sucks in rural areas
2. They will need to merge w/ a wireless of data delivery o
3. Have some crappy sat-based internet
4. Go out of business.
5. They blow up the traditional model.
The NFL ST is going to get so costly, they won't be able to maintain that. That is their major hook as I see it. But more and more people are finding out VPN/DNS solves the blackout bs.
As for price, well they are simply a conduit to content. Do you think they want to be squeezed on margins?
If the broadcast people get their way, every OTA channel will cost $2+ which means at least another $10 to your bill ON TOP of all the other channels piling on.
Surely this is a recipe for disaster, because this won't be a gradual collapse, some innovation will blow up the whole thing. Aereo is one chink in the armor... There is too much money to be made on the delivery side. Content owners are going to get rightsized, period.
Look at news, audio, video, books. TV is the last holdout. Content is a decaying commodity, they are treating it like gold. And if you do that, the market will adjust you in a most violent manner. | |
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| | KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: So, here's my takeaway from this. For what DTV pays the NFL, Sunday Ticket should have no blackouts at all.
However sports leagues love their blackout rules, Rumors from the C-Band days of the NFL suing bars in blackout areas because they pointed their dish at another bird and showed the game anyway. Its funny though the NFL will blackout a game and then cry about piracy. Yet with Sunday Ticket they could without issue market it as a Blackout Free service, This would be an instant hit with sports bars in areas at risk of blackout.
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| | | | | Re: So, here's my takeaway from this. DirecTV Sunday Ticket has nothing to do with presence or absence of blackouts because they are never allowed to show local matchups. | |
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| | |  BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness | You don't needs Sunday Ticket to watch the local team since they will be on your local CBS or Fox station. | |
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| rmdir
join:2003-03-13
Chicago, IL | Wait a minute, you piss people off with your price increases which cause them to cancel so the answer is to raise prices even more? That was what drove me from both satellite providers years ago. They are truly clueless. | |
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| | BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness | Re: So, here's my takeaway from this. So what are they supposed to do when the content companies raise their rates? Eat the cost? Is DIRECTV supposed to eventually one day offer you service at a loss to keep you a customer? Would you do that as a business? | |
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| | |  mackieg4Premium
join:2003-03-24
Riverside, CA | Re: So, here's my takeaway from this. Yes, that is what they need to do to keep customers. | |
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| | | | | If they can only keep customers by selling at a loss, they need to seriously rethink their business strategy. | |
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|  SarickIt's Only LogicalPremium
join:2003-06-03
USA | It's a downward spiral of a never ending trend. This cannibalizing of their own customers will continue until prices are so high their subscription modal won't be able to sustain itself.
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|  coldmoonPremium
join:2002-02-04
Broadway, NC
 ·Windstream
| The only way that this will stop is when a sufficient number of customers cut the satelite which then causes the increased revenues fromn higher rates to be counter-profitable. that is, by raising rates, they make less profit...
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| | BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness | Re: So, here's my takeaway from this. If content producers keep raising the cost of said content then yes it's better to have fewer customers at higher prices then it is to keep customers and service them at a loss. | |
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| | | tell that to dish network who sees the business model evolution and is doing something about it.. such as trying to be a terrestrial wireless carrier. | |
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| | Really? Direct TV is already extremely over priced. | |
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| | | Re: Really? not really and comcast's outlet pricing is a lot higher. | |
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| | | | Re: Really? In Tampa FIOS has lower TV prices then Direct TV. I must very in different markets. | |
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| | | | said by Joe12345678:not really and comcast's outlet pricing is a lot higher.
I agree! Comcast (where I'm from anyway) seems to practically nickel and dime people to a level I've never seen. Full disclosure, I'm currently a Comcast TV customer. That's only because I snagged a pretty decent promo. Hope to go back to Direct TV one day. | |
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| |  JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA | Yes really. I just dropped directv after my rebates expired when the price of my package went up to $100/mo with no premium channels. It was cheaper to drop the service and pay the remaining ETF than continue for another 6 months. | |
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 Steve BPremium
join:2004-08-02
Seattle, WA | All TV Providers Are Too Pricey However, I chose DirecTV because they are the better value against Comcast. What I have/pay DirecTV for would cost me an arm and a leg more with Comcast. Plus, as someone stated, DirecTV boxes are rather awesome. I got their Genie and another two-tuner HD DVR, this particular setup isn't even possible with Comcast and DirecTV is still cheaper.
Lesser of two evils...... | |
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tkdslr
join:2004-04-24
Pompano Beach, FL Reviews:
·T-Mobile US
·Speakeasy
| Allow customers to drop SAT/Cable based locals and substitute locally received OTA locals without crippling the Program guides/Functionality.
I can get two sets of DMA locals with a decent outside antenna/amp combo..
With that antenna I really don't need those limited SAT locals, except Dish saw to it that they completely crippled the OTA program guide on my Dish 211 DVR. They excluded all program data, even the program data included in the ATSC broadcast stream. (Something that every ATSC TV tuner can receive and decode.)
Since that time, dish dropped that NO-LOCALS option and force bundled the SAT locals into nearly all packages. It's time to reverse that.. We need a LAW and/or a good anti-trust lawsuit breaking that ripoff business model for both the SAT and Cable TV industry. | |
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| | | Re: Allow customers to drop SAT/Cable based locals and Not everyone can receive OTA locals... you need to be within a specific range of the market. With DirectTV dish local channels, one is able to get regional locals... not possible when in a valley.
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| | tkdslr
join:2004-04-24
Pompano Beach, FL | Re: Allow customers to drop SAT/Cable based locals and Even if some customers can't receive locals. It would increase competition and reduce prices those stations could charge. I.E. Each $/mo increase causes X number of customers to drop Sat/Cable locals and put up an antenna. | |
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Reviews:
 ·Time Warner Cable
1 edit | How about DIRECTV fee increases If DIRECTV is really worried about their customers being hit by programming content price increases then they need to show it by not increasing ANY of their fees this year for services like HD Access or DVR's. Kind of hard to blame programmers for increases but then turn around and increase your own fees. | |
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| | | Re: How about DIRECTV fee increases well some systems build programming costs into the other fees.
But this year it may just be that the base package pricing going up. | |
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 n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY | Lock In This should be wonderful news (sarcasm) to people who signed up for DISH with a 12-month guaranteed price on a 24 month agreement. Why anyone would sign a contract that does not guarantee you the rate for the full term is beyond me. Verizon was doing this for quite a while but appears of late to have stopped the practice. You get the rate for the term of the contract.
I agree with one of the other posts that this is a zero sum game. The Post Office is doing pretty much the same thing. Raising rates only to drive even more customers away looking for alternatives.
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| | | Re: Lock In Because the contract also covers the cost of the equipment which they can't make back in only 1 year of cheap programming. | |
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| | SarickIt's Only LogicalPremium
join:2003-06-03
USA | Re: Lock In Most of that hardware is already paid for. Everytime I've upgraded or had a replacement they sent me factory reconditioned hardware that only last a few months anyway. Even though it wasn't technically new they still did the 24 plan.
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join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY | Re: Lock In said by Sarick:Most of that hardware is already paid for. Everytime I've upgraded or had a replacement they sent me factory reconditioned hardware that only last a few months anyway. Even though it wasn't technically new they still did the 24 plan.
QFT.
I've never had a satellite box myself but if they are anything like the cable boxes, they are running the components at 100% of their rating and putting out enough heat to warm your coffee.
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|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | just like dtv's "free nfl st thats only for a year" but you're locked in for TWO and you cant drop nfl st the second year without a steep ETF!
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| | cUTTING SERVICE I will be Cutting Directv back about 30% Thanks for the Heads up and not Standing up for us That pay for your Service, These Company's want more Directv Bends over every-time. | |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness | No one baliming content producers? You can expect pay TV companies to eat the cost of content when the content producers continually are raising their prices. They can get away with that because they know most people will blame the pay TV provider not them. | |
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| | This is what it takes to be a CEO? This is what it take to become a CEO?
Heck,
I could've told everyone this and I've never even worked for DTV!! Now, where's my mega million dollar bonus!!
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compPremium
join:2001-08-16
Cranberry Twp, PA | go DTV I could care less. My local cable company sucks. will gladly pay for directv | |
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| | cable or bust? I'll either change my plan or just go to the local cable company. | |
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|  skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium
join:2012-01-26
AA169|170
kudos:2 | Re: cable or bust? As if the local MSO doesn't have similar rate hikes at least yearly.
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| | | | Re: cable or bust? Ours hasn't. They've been steadily increasing the amount of channels, and HD additions, but the price has been the same.
I'm actually comparing my directv lineup with the local cable co. lineup, and may switch just to save $100 per month.  | |
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 lordfly
join:2000-10-12
Homestead, FL
·SkyNet360
| Stuck in contract As soon as this darn contract is done I am cutting DirecTV. I am not getting the entertainment value out of it. The only thing we really watch is Disney. The rest is commercials and programming that is freely available through my Playon subscription.
Two months of DirecTV will get me a really good attic mounted antenna and then I will get all of my locals, all in HD.
The only other thing I have is Netflix and we watch that more than anything. Plus we have an extensive Blu-ray and DVD library. | |
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