 | | If Dish took over DTV I would leave in .000002 seconds. I swore to one of the Dish retention monkeys I would never return to Dish over the way they handled closing my account. I will always keep that promise.
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 |  IowaCowboyWant to go back to IowaPremium
join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA | Re: If Dish took over DTV I would go back to Comcast the moment that Dish took over DirecTV.
I'm doubtful such a deal would be approved. | |
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| | | | Re: If Dish took over DTV DirectTV is better than dish etwork they should be the ones that control it | |
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1 recommendation | Competition There are vast swaths of the country where the only competition is between DirecTV and DISH. A merge would only hurt consumers. | |
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|  BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness | Re: Competition Is there REALLY competition between the 2? How come their prices are higher than cable? At the very least one should be lowballing the other just to obtain more customers. | |
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| Re: Competition Dish and DirecTV are just as high as cable when it comes to adding those boxes to the plan. And now with even Whole House DVR by the MSOs you still only need one DVR and just regular STBs that Dish/DirecTV use. Plus you still have TV when the weather is nasty in the Midwest- when you have cable. | |
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| |  ieolusSupport The Clecs
join:2001-06-19
Duluth, GA | You don't compete on price when there are only two companies in the market... look at last-mile broadband providers.
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Sandy, UT | They are? I believe they are lower than what Comcast chargers in my area
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| | | | | Re: Competition I left D* last month for Comcast. Now I'm saving $4 per month with triple play and getting more channels like Pac-12 & CSN NW. So good move in my mind. Time will tell. Plus X1 is a huge improvement in features. | |
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join:2011-04-20
Royal Oak, MI | If you're ambitious enough, switching back and forth between the two every two years will give you savings over straight up cable tv. The problem with satellite tv providers is that they can't offer you the savings you can achieve by bundling services. | |
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| I'm on the fence. Usually competition is good, but the cable industry is facing some unique circumstances right now. Carriage fees are spiraling out of control. Fragmentation of the market means if a cableco plays hardball and implements blackouts, then a lot of people hop ship to the other cablecos (satellite services).
The only benefit I could see consolidating satellite providers and/or cable providers is it could give more leverage in keeping carriage rates down (this bills down).
Unfortunately I don't trust the companies to share those benefits with the consumer... but I thought I'd list the possible upside. | |
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| | | | Re: Competition And those customers that jump ship are stupid and blame the MSOs when it wasn't them. But they're also the same customers that will complain when their bill with the other goes up because they didn't fight for their lower prices. | |
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 Simba7I Void Warranties
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | Why not? It worked so well for XM and Sirius. | |
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| BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness | Re: Why not? said by Simba7:It worked so well for XM and Sirius.
if they didn't merge neither would exist and you wouldn't have satellite radio at all. | |
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West Tenness | Re: Why not? Well that may be but as I said you would have ZERO satellite radio if they weren't allowed to merge. Letting them both die would have been better? | |
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| | | | | | Re: Why not? Probably. Would let someone else who knows what they are doing come in and try their hand at Satellite Radio. You can't assume that if Sirius and XM fell off the map back when they merged that someone else wouldn't have popped up to offer a new satellite radio service.
And how many subs that are RADIO ONLY (not their internet package) are there? Besides truckers. I pay for radio only, but I'm dropping it soon. if Satellite Radio never even existed, we'd probably have a service similar to Sirius XM right now -- but on the internet only. And guess what? SiriusXM has a very popular internet/streaming option. | |
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Royal Oak, MI | Re: Why not? Exactly, all of those satellites wouldn't be sitting idle up there. Somebody would have bought at least some of them up and started another service. Chances are it would be better than what we currently have. I mean it couldn't be any worse, right? | |
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West Tenness | Re: Why not? said by mogamer:Exactly, all of those satellites wouldn't be sitting idle up there. Somebody would have bought at least some of them up and started another service. Chances are it would be better than what we currently have. I mean it couldn't be any worse, right?
Nope no one would have spent billions trying to acquire them. More than likely if they went bankrupt they would have sold their spectrum to the highest bidder which would most likely end up in the hands of Verizon or At&t or possible Dish Network. And neither would have used it for satellite radio. | |
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| | Merger I could see this happening, they merge and ATT acquires it all. | |
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| | | Re: Merger and then ATT would drop U-Verse TV and roll out their own TV service using D*. They'd bypass all franchise BS on all levels and already would have a HUGE customer base and could easily use their data network for thousands of features. | |
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| You want DirecTV buying Dish. You want DirecTV buying Dish not Dish buying Directv. Dish is the worst company to work for as well as all of the spats they have where as DirecTV has much much less, and when they do happen they usually are quickly resolved. You cant count Pac 12 because Directv never carried it. Merging makes sense on a technical level because now you can use the 99,103,101,110,119, and 129 slots all on one dish allowing both company's to free up bandwidth and channel duplication. What this means for the customer is dramatically increased PQ because you now are not duplicating CNNHD over two different slots. Because both are merging, bandwidth can be consolidated increased and there is more room for all channels in HD. Technically, both boxes can do an S2 modulation (newer dish and directv) meaning that the could technically tune to each others stuff, Possibly run an dual ECM for activation and programming. I would like to see Directv's encryption used as it has never been hacked and is un-hackable. Where as Dish's is more prone to hacking. IF Dish buys DirecTV Run. If DirecTV buys Dish. Invest! | |
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| | | Re: You want DirecTV buying Dish. So ideally you'd need some sort of middle ground. Perhaps a joint company that provided the satellite portion of the business so they could both reduce costs there, but otherwise 2 separate companies when it comes to the terrestrial portion of their businesses. | |
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join:2001-08-07
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kudos:1 | Exactly! I would not subscribe to a Dish bought Directv. What I don't understand is that Directv is a superior product when compared with Dish (picture quality, HD channels), so how is it that Dish would be buying Directv? | |
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| IowaCowboyWant to go back to IowaPremium
join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA | Dish network has HORRIBLE customer service. Plain and simple. | |
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Brooklyn, NY | lol good ole charlie and dave harharhar hi dave hi charlie guess what? | |
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 linicxCaveat EmptorPremium
join:2002-12-03
United State
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| What competition Competition is in Manhattan, Chicago and LA. It is not in isolated rural America. Competition means choice. it does not mean a choice between two small local phone companies. Choice does not mean paying top dollar for a Grade D product that rarely works as advertised. There is no competition in one Satellite company any more than there is competition in one paid satellite music service for car and home.
I've had Direct TV in areas where I could not have DISH, and vice versa; I was not happy with Direct. I can have either now due to location and in-accessibility. I can have cable and its end-of-neighborhood *washed out* signal with 5 out of area local channels for $80, or I can have a good signal from DISH with 5 local channels I am familiar with, plus more channels than cable for $50. I had DISH in three Midwest states, and have been very happy with the installation, package choices and service techs.
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| | DirecTv is garbage I dont understand why people are on the DirecTV bandwagon... Their customer service is the worst ive ever experienced (next to Charter) and their DVRs are the slowest.. Ive had no problems with Dish.. I hope they do NOT merge. | |
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