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bigunk
Gort, Klattu Birada Nikto
join:2001-02-10
Santa Clarita, CA
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| Re: It is expensive but good service I just got an automated phone call from them saying I must upgrade my receiver to get all their new channels. I have modified my DirecTivo for 100HD/600 regular hours. Once they make sure I can have the same capacity with the same ease of use as my Tivo, I'll consider their "upgrade". Until then, forget it.
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DanHo
Premium
join:2002-05-20
Seattle, WA
| Re: It is expensive but good service I just got reinstalled after a 1 year hiatus. While the HR20 is not as intuitive, IMO, as the TiVo, it is a pretty nice unit. In addition, the eSATA ports are active on them and you can install an external HD on them. People have been reporting buying a Seagate FreeAgent 750GB and connecting it up with no issues. | |
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bigunk
Gort, Klattu Birada Nikto
join:2001-02-10
Santa Clarita, CA | Re: It is expensive but good service Then I might reconsider. Now I just gotta figure out if the HR20 runs on linux so I can try to move all my recorded stuff over to it. | |
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join:2004-08-11
Edmond, OK | Re: It is expensive but good service It does run on a linux based OS, but I doubt you will be able to transfer anything from a tivo unit. | |
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Dalith1983
@verizon.net
| said by bigunk  :I just got an automated phone call from them saying I must upgrade my receiver to get all their new channels. I have modified my DirecTivo for 100HD/600 regular hours. Once they make sure I can have the same capacity with the same ease of use as my Tivo, I'll consider their "upgrade". Until then, forget it. Being a former TiVo user myself, I find the HR20-100 model DVR quite easy to use. Also, from my understanding, you can plug in a external eSATA drive and use that for additional storage (Just can't use it WITH the internal drive, just one or the other). | |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | Re: It is expensive but good service I need to get around to upgrading here soon so I'm not closed out of the fall HD goodness.....
How many have been able to convince DirecTV to upgrade you from the TiVo series two to the HR20 for free? | |
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join:2004-08-11
Edmond, OK | Re: It is expensive but good service I got my first for free. I am getting another one instaled this coming monday. Paid 19.95 for shipping and handling only. You will not get 2 at one time free. I think there is a 6 month rule to get them at no cost or for the S&H only. | |
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bigunk
Gort, Klattu Birada Nikto
join:2001-02-10
Santa Clarita, CA | Are we limited to 1 drive? | |
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join:2004-08-11
Edmond, OK | Re: It is expensive but good service No. YOu can use the eSATA and hook up multiple drives. There are people who have 1TB in external storage. If you use the e SATA option the internal drive is not used. It will still spin but not be included in total storage. | |
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bigunk
Gort, Klattu Birada Nikto
join:2001-02-10
Santa Clarita, CA | Re: It is expensive but good service I see there are port multipliers out there. There is one interesting box that holds 5 drives and has a single eSata connection for your PC, but I would think it shows all five drives as separate volumes. I wonder how the HR20 will deal with that? | |
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
clubs:
| Re: It is expensive but good service There are a few devices that act as a stand-alone external RAID, and while you'll need to plug it into a PC to initially set up the volume, you can get them to all show as 1 large drive. This should work just fine for the HR20. (keeping in mind I have not tried myself)
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Barmat
Uhmmm Floor Pie
join:2000-11-01
Union City, CA
clubs:
| Re: It is expensive but good service The HR20 is way better then the DirecTivo. Mpeg4(100 HD Channels), Video on demand, Media share, easy storage expansion, the list goes on. About the only downside is a lack of Dual Live Buffers like the Tivo. There is some guy I know that has 3TB hooked up to his HR20. | |
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
clubs:
| Re: It is expensive but good service said by pckcchief :Upgrading the storage space on the HR-20 is easy, just plug in a external eSATA drive and it automatically switches to using that drive for storage. For anyone that wants lots of DirecTv info goto » www.dbstalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=82 Also this article is a little miss leading as the issue is with spot beams on D10 and only effects local network HD stations and not the national 100 channels of HD they will have by the end of the year. DirecTV had planed on using spot beams on D10 for local HD for some markets, they will still be for some, but the others will be on the older satellites for now. They state it will not stop any scheduled local HD roll outs. Also important to point out that the new HD channels will be broadcast mpeg-4, which the older DirecTivo's can't receive. (making my favorite receiver obsolete)
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markrubi
join:2004-08-11
Edmond, OK | spot beam problems The spot beam problem will not affect the roll out of the new national HD channels. The spot beams are for local HD channels and maybe regional sports networks. | |
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Interceptor
We want... A Shrubbery
Premium
join:2000-07-24
Birmingham, AL | Re: spot beam problems That's right. The article is quite misleading the way it is written and "these channels" (nationals) are not going to be affected by the spot beams. | |
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rsmith7
Premium
join:2003-03-11
San Diego, CA
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| Waiting for the price increase All along DirecTV compares their HD pricing to Dish, saying theirs is lower. I can't imagine they will be able to keep it this low. Once Dish started getting more HD channels their price doubled.
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tacoma
Bleeding Dodger Blue
Premium
join:2001-05-18
Riverside, CA | Re: Waiting for the price increase I'm excited. I love my HR20, and I can't wait for the 70 HD channels. | |
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join:2002-07-08
Naperville, IL | Re: Waiting for the price increase Can shows be extracted from the HR20 (in Hi Def. preferably) onto a PC for storage off line? | |
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@charter.com
| Re: Waiting for the price increase said by esojmc :Can shows be extracted from the HR20 (in Hi Def. preferably) onto a PC for storage off line? Not a chance. Due to provisions of the Digital Millenium Act passed by congress, the recorded content is only playable on the receiver it was recorded on. The content is encoded on the hard drive using a combination of techniques including the access card, hard drive serial number, and CPU serial number of the receiver. Change any one of these and it won't be accessible.
However, that being said, you can play back the HD content and re-record it through certain video cards which accept component (analog) HD inputs. Neither DVI nor HDMI are able to be re-recorded due to the encoded information that is exchanged between devices on these digital video busses. The DirecTV receiver knows whether it connected to a display device or to another type of recording device and will not play back to a recorder. | |
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UofMiamiGrad
Premium
join:2001-02-03
Great Neck, NY
| Directv's Release on D10! »phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zht···ghlight=
DIRECTV 10 In-Orbit Testing Underway
EL SEGUNDO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--
Sept. 14, 2007--The DIRECTV 10 satellite, launched on July 6, 2007, has been successfully placed in geo-synchronous orbit and is currently undergoing in-orbit testing. The testing process has confirmed that the satellite is fully functional to deliver all planned nationwide HD programming. This will enable DIRECTV to deliver up to 100 HD channels nationwide by year-end.
The DIRECTV 10 satellite's transponder payload also includes spot-beam capacity that will support the expansion of DIRECTV's local HD channel services. While testing of DIRECTV 10's capability continues, it appears that a portion of the anticipated spot-beam capability may not be fully available. The investigation to determine the cause of the reduced capability and potential means to mitigate its effect is on-going. However, we currently believe our planned expansion of HD local programming as previously announced will not be materially affected.
The launch of DIRECTV 11 is still scheduled for late this year or early next year, on a Sea Launch launch vehicle.
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markrubi
join:2004-08-11
Edmond, OK | For HR20 info goto dbstalk | |
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partysource
join:2000-11-25
Phoenix, AZ | HD LITE Doens't Direct TV use HD-Lite?
Will all these new channels be HD-Lite? | |
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tacoma
Bleeding Dodger Blue
Premium
join:2001-05-18
Riverside, CA | Re: HD LITE My understanding is the new channels will not be HD Lite. | |
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join:2006-01-23
Arlington, VA
| Re: HD LITE said by tacoma :My understanding is the new channels will not be HD Lite. Nobody knows yet.
Nobody will know until DirecTV actually adds the channels and we see how they look. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by tacoma :My understanding is the new channels will not be HD Lite. They wont be HD-LITE when coming from the source but once DTV gets the feed, they'll downrez and compress it.
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Premium
join:2001-08-16
Concord, NC
clubs: | Re: HD LITE Someone needs to correct whoever wrote the news article. The problem will not effect the new national HD channels. It could effect Local HD spotbeams | |
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Premium
join:2001-02-03
Great Neck, NY
| Re: HD LITE said by comp :Someone needs to correct whoever wrote the news article. The problem will not effect the new national HD channels. It could effect Local HD spotbeams I PMed the person that posted the topic, but they never fixed it, oh well. DBSTalk.com is a better place to go for D* info anyway! | |
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Premium
join:2001-08-16
Concord, NC
clubs: | everyone does this | |
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Premium
join:2005-01-25
·Qwest.net
| said by dvd536 :said by tacoma :My understanding is the new channels will not be HD Lite. They wont be HD-LITE when coming from the source but once DTV gets the feed, they'll downrez and compress it. I thought all the new HD is going to be MPEG-4. | |
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Premium
join:2001-08-16
Concord, NC
clubs: | Re: HD LITE It is going to be MPEG-4. | |
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Lumberjack
Premium
join:2003-01-18
Newport News, VA
1 edit | Just because it's new fancy MPEG-4 (as opposed to MPEG-2) doesn't mean they still won't downgrate it a bit to save some bandwidth just like they do now.
MPEG-4/2 are just compression methods. What is actually being compressed may be at a lower quality and this is what was referred to above as 'downrezzed'.
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join:2006-06-12
Bedford, VA | DirectTV DirecTV rocks!! better then cable and all those other Satellite kids on the block, and you get 50 bucks for refering, what ya got to lose??!  | |
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dddane
join:2002-01-10
Chicago, IL
| ah ha good to see more on this.. it's been fuzzy for a long time now as to when things will launch. i guess in part because it's reliant on new stuff that's not deployed.
I heard this AM that CNN HD will be avail on Directv Wednesday the 19th, which seems to coincide with some of what was said on that other forum...
Directv will soon add a new $5 add on HD package for the channels that don't have SD feeds... yet another attempt to steal more money and increase my bill. oh boy. i guess i can do without Universal HD ... though it's a bit of a scam that they consider that to not have a SD counterpart--it's NBC essentially. (will they consider Discover HD theater to be part of discover or is that part of the $5 add on as well? Hmm) | |
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Mike145466
@innovestsystems.com
| Re: ah ha I'm a new customer of Directv and I can already tell they don't live up to their promises. Their press releases stated the new HD programming would be on air in September 2007 and more to come by year end. Now their website states by the end of October. Nice way to misrepresent yourself. | |
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dddane
join:2002-01-10
Chicago, IL
| if you tune to your channel guide you'll notice a series of test channels around 498/499... one of them is actual HD from the new satellite.
over the weekend there were two test channels, channel 9300 and 9301 that were turned up with actual live HD channels from the new Directv 10 satellite... they had Discovery and National Geographic on them.. only for a few hours though...
directv never promised that all of the new channels would be availbale in september. but last i had heard they are planning to release some of them in september, possibly this week.
they're having problems with the new satellite for spot beaming local HD channels to certain geographic regions (the north side of the country from what i understand). i think the holdback is that they're trying to fix these perhaps, and doing so requires taking the satellite offline ... from what i understand if they are unable to fix these, they still will have the capacity they need by re-allocating the channels on various satellites.. but i think they're trying to delay putting the satellite fully online as much as possible in september while they can possibly fix this issue. | |
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DirecTV HD Satellite Plans On Track
It is expensive but good service
