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DirecTV Makes You Jump Through Hoops To Give Them Money
'My dog ate my dish, may I get NFL broadband video now sir?'
by Karl Bode Monday 13-Sep-2010 tags: business · Op/Ed · DIRECTV
DirecTV recently announced they were going to allow users who don't subscribe to DirecTV to get NFL Sunday Ticket streamed via broadband for $350 a season. Unfortunately there's a catch: you have to be unable to get DirecTV service, via line of site obstruction, a horrible architectural disfigurement, or some other caveat. As you might expect, there's a growing number of people now trying to test DirecTV's mettle, by claiming their landlord won't allow them to mount a dish:

I called in and talked to a nice lady who actually had an inkling of what this was all about. I gave her my story unbidden about being denied the right to place a satellite dish on my rental property, which she accepted. After placing me on hold to check with her supervisor, she directed me to a web address hidden on the DirecTV server, wherein I could sign-up for the internet-only service. Easy sign-up, one simply has to attest that one does not have DirecTV service at their address, has NEVER had it at their address, and CANNOT have it at their address.

It's sheer genius on DirecTV's part to make it harder for consumers to pay them gobs of money -- especially when DirecTV has shelled out multiple billions to the NFL for the exclusive right to presumably sell people said product. Of course this could be a contractual restriction imposed on DirecTV by the NFL, in which case the intellectual firepower at play here is all courtesy of the NFL.

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WeSRT4

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$$$!!!

There is no way on earth I'd pay that kind of money to watch NFL games. I guess I just don't appreciate the kind of money pro athletes are making these days. The more people pay these ridiculous prices the more ridiculous the salaries become.

jchambers28

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$350 to watch football

$350 to watch football

Are they nuts or what.
zolcos

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Re: $350 to watch football

At least it's not $350 a month?

jchambers28

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Re: $350 to watch football

My rent is $350 a moth I think that's a lot more important than football.

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Re: $350 to watch football

said by jchambers28:

My rent is $350 a month I think that's a lot more important than football.
You must live in a time-warp. I paid more than that 30 yrs a go for a 1 bedroom apartment.

jchambers28

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Re: $350 to watch football

I live in a small town in Arkansas and rent is extremely cheap here and the place is not dumpy either. The cost of living here in the small town is cheap there aren't hardly any jobs here. I think you need get out more.

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Re: $350 to watch football

I second this. Rural areas usually have the cheaper rent from my experience in having to move around.

But of course, you also end up driving quite a while to get somewhere...
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Re: $350 to watch football

said by Pashune:

I second this. Rural areas usually have the cheaper rent from my experience in having to move around.

But of course, you also end up driving quite a while to get somewhere...
I

I agree. you want a cheep place to live. Live in a rural area. Most of Arkansas is rural.
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Re: $350 to watch football

said by jchambers28:

said by Pashune:

I second this. Rural areas usually have the cheaper rent from my experience in having to move around.

But of course, you also end up driving quite a while to get somewhere...
I

I agree. you want a cheep place to live. Live in a rural area. Most of Arkansas is rural.
It's a really besides the point. $350 is a ridiculous amount considering the other pro leagues season passes are much lower. For instance, MLB.tv is $100 for 162 games ($120 for the nice version) and NBA League Pass is a $150 for 82 games. The NFL and Directv is going to have lower their price and hassles to talk me into this.

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Re: $350 to watch football

your right about that.
NyNexit

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It's cheap untill you realize that you need to drive 30 miles to buy milk, 100 mi to a job and getting a haircut takes a whole Saturday !
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that's a good rent price i wish here, we can't leave our house if we lost it we could not rent nothing unless it has bars on its house if you know what i mean.

Prices for Baltimore go from 800-1000 that's a 1 BR or efficiency. 1200 gets your a good place but if you want a good apartment you can some times score around but for houses holy dog crap, its impossible to be working class blue collar anymore. Not like it matters if the rich run out of money they will print more, its not like no ones under control of how much they can print, really who knows they could printed 10 trillion dollars and put it in to circulation with the government we would never know.
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Re: $350 to watch football

said by Mordhem:

that's a good rent price i wish here, we can't leave our house if we lost it we could not rent nothing unless it has bars on its house if you know what i mean.

Prices for Baltimore go from 800-1000 that's a 1 BR or efficiency. 1200 gets your a good place but if you want a good apartment you can some times score around but for houses holy dog crap, its impossible to be working class blue collar anymore. Not like it matters if the rich run out of money they will print more, its not like no ones under control of how much they can print, really who knows they could printed 10 trillion dollars and put it in to circulation with the government we would never know.
Blame Baltimore City for rents being so high. The rules for landlords are so bad that a tenant can trash the place and walk away without a care in the world.

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said by jchambers28:

$350 to watch football

Are they nuts or what.
Clearly you're not their target market.

Look at the price in relation to any sports team season ticket package, and in that perspective it's a reasonably good deal.

Pro sports aren't cheap.

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said by jchambers28:

$350 to watch football

Are they nuts or what.
If you live out of market and a die hard fan of your home team, it's not really all that much. Most people already do $20 a week in discretionary spending already.
NyNexit

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Well if over the course of the year you go to a sports bar to watch 10 games, between the beer, food and tips you allready spent more then that.
Its just a matter of where you decide to spend your time.
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DirecTV pushes NFL Sunday Ticket

If you go to the DirecTV website, the top of the line package mandates you take NFL Sunday Ticket, in exchange for some discount on the programming you really want. You must do a bunch of mouse clicks to get rid of NFL Sunday Ticket from the package. I think DirecTV was struggling to get enough people to pay for NFL Sunday Ticket as an option. They are having trouble paying the NFL the money they owe them. So they are looking for ways to get more money to pay for the overpriced programming they are stuck with. They figured people who wanted to watch a lot of movies and premium nonsports programming, and are willing to pay for that, would be good candidates to push into Sunday Ticket by a convoluted signup process for the top package.
Joe12345678

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Re: DirecTV pushes NFL Sunday Ticket

said by davidhoffman:

If you go to the DirecTV website, the top of the line package mandates you take NFL Sunday Ticket, in exchange for some discount on the programming you really want. You must do a bunch of mouse clicks to get rid of NFL Sunday Ticket from the package. I think DirecTV was struggling to get enough people to pay for NFL Sunday Ticket as an option. They are having trouble paying the NFL the money they owe them. So they are looking for ways to get more money to pay for the overpriced programming they are stuck with. They figured people who wanted to watch a lot of movies and premium nonsports programming, and are willing to pay for that, would be good candidates to push into Sunday Ticket by a convoluted signup process for the top package.
No real money for ST is made at the sports book and sports bars that pay based on fire capacity. That why the deal are good to take ST. Also the main programming is cheaper then comcast.

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NFL may rein in DirecTV if scam becomes abused

If DirecTV starts turning a blind eye to the restrictions they agreed to with the NFL, then I suspect the NFL will force DirecTV to stop offering the internet pkg altogether as a violation of the contract.

The NFL could offer live internet access to all their games thru NFL.com and charge a huge price, but they don't do that because of their Network TV contracts. They won't let DirecTV drag them in to a big lawsuit with the Networks.

DirecTV will be warned to tighten up the signup process or all hell will break loose.

SLD
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Re: NFL may rein in DirecTV if scam becomes abused

$350 to watch advertising-laded NFL football games can be considered abuse alright - abuse to the idiot that actually pays for this stuff.

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Re: NFL may rein in DirecTV if scam becomes abused

said by SLD:

$350 to watch advertising-laded NFL football games can be considered abuse alright - abuse to the idiot that actually pays for this stuff.
Anyone lame enough to pay it deserves to be abused...let the abuse begin!

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Re: NFL may rein in DirecTV if scam becomes abused

said by BHNtechXpert:

Anyone lame enough to pay it deserves to be abused...let the abuse begin!
Begin? Isn't this the same price they've been charging on top of a normal TV subscription for the Sunday Ticket? And people idiots have been paying that for years!

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Re: NFL may rein in DirecTV if scam becomes abused

said by Camelot One:

said by BHNtechXpert:

Anyone lame enough to pay it deserves to be abused...let the abuse begin!
Begin? Isn't this the same price they've been charging on top of a normal TV subscription for the Sunday Ticket? And people idiots have been paying that for years!
LOL!
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Re: NFL may rein in DirecTV if scam becomes abused

said by BHNtechXpert:

said by Camelot One:

said by BHNtechXpert:

Anyone lame enough to pay it deserves to be abused...let the abuse begin!
Begin? Isn't this the same price they've been charging on top of a normal TV subscription for the Sunday Ticket? And people idiots have been paying that for years!
LOL!
If I'm the "idiot" that can afford it, then I must be doing something right. To me - what's "lame" is people who post on a rather "anonymous" message board using terms like "lame" and "idiot" to describe people that don't think like them.

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Re: NFL may rein in DirecTV if scam becomes abused

said by gigante:

To me - what's "lame" is people who post on a rather "anonymous" message board using terms like "lame" and "idiot" to describe people that don't think.
fixed it for you.

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said by Romney2012:

If DirecTV starts turning a blind eye to the restrictions they agreed to with the NFL, then I suspect the NFL will force DirecTV to stop offering the internet pkg altogether as a violation of the contract.

The NFL could offer live internet access to all their games thru NFL.com and charge a huge price, but they don't do that because of their Network TV contracts. They won't let DirecTV drag them in to a big lawsuit with the Networks.

DirecTV will be warned to tighten up the signup process or all hell will break loose.
what are the restrictions?
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Re: NFL may rein in DirecTV if scam becomes abused

said by Frank:

what are the restrictions?
»DirecTV Makes You Jump Through Hoops To Give Them Money

Unfortunately there's a catch: you have to be unable to get DirecTV service, via line of site obstruction, a horrible architectural disfigurement, or some other caveat. As you might expect, there's a growing number of people now trying to test DirecTV's mettle,

Omega
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I guess technically...

I guess technically anyone could get this service, depending on how far you are willing to stretch the truth, or outright lie.

For example, I am a homeowner, thus I could possibly say I am also my own landlord. Well, I could forbid myself to put a dish on my property, thus making it impossible to get DirecTV.

It sounds like DirecTV does not check to see if you are an actual renter at the property, you just have to convince the sales tech to let you have the service.

And if they caught you, what could they really do, other than cancel the service on you?
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Skippy25

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Re: I guess technically...

In your case, you would simply put up a dish, and then let yourself file a petition with the FCC to make yourself take it down. You will lie and try to claim it is an historical district/home and attempt to screw yourself. But chances are, your request will be denied and you will be forced to allow yourself to keep the dish up thus your relationship with yourself will be reduced to snide remarks and snarls anytime you cross your own path.

One thing is for sure though: no matter how they rule, you will win.

anononoys

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the games are copyrighted

great. so you paid a chunk of change to watch the game with your friends. but watch out - you can't talk about the games that you thought you watched due to copyright infringement.

might be cheaper to watch the news and understand the highlights and talk about those . . .

Omega
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Re: the games are copyrighted

What? As archaic as our copyright laws are, they don't prevent you from talking about a sports game, no matter who airs it or who has exclusive rights.
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Re: the games are copyrighted

Trademark, tort, and libel law will shut you up pretty quickly. The constitution is dead remember.

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too bad you cant get nfl gamepass in the US

(image blew margins)

directv sunday ticket = $350
nfl gamepass (only available to those outside the US)= $279.99

of course you will only be able to see that site if you connect from outside the US (anyone in canada can confirm the above)
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Re: too bad you cant get nfl gamepass in the US

I already pay DTV $132.64 a month, and that is way too much, no way in hell I'm gonna pay DTV $299 more or $60 more a month
for NFL Sunday Ticket, that is outrageous over pricing of service
and that doesn't even include local & State Tax fees
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Re: too bad you cant get nfl gamepass in the US

My GOSH Man
To each there own but for that price I better get an Internet connection of at LEAST 12 Mb Down/1Up AND TV from either Mediacom or DTV.

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Hmmm... Proxy server anyone??
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you can thank the customer hating NFL for game pass not being available in the US.
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Pointless money makers.

The subject says it all.

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$350.. sheesh.

I'm glad I'm not much of a football fan here. I could think of so many other things to spend $350 on...

Maybe I'm an idiot or just uninformed, but I still don't get why live sports sometimes costs such a huge premium.
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Re: $350.. sheesh.

said by Pashune:

Maybe I'm an idiot or just uninformed, but I still don't get why live sports sometimes costs such a huge premium.
I often wonder how athletes can be paid millions of dollars.

Put 2 and 2 together.

People will pay.

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Just shoot yourself in the foot . . .

quote:
DirecTV recently announced they were going to allow users who don't subscribe to DirecTV to get NFL Sunday Ticket streamed via broadband for $350 a season. Unfortunately there's a catch: you have to be unable to get DirecTV service, via line of site obstruction, a horrible architectural disfigurement, or some other caveat.
That's just plain dumb, DirecTV. I thought you guys were smarter than that.
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said by newview:

quote:
DirecTV recently announced they were going to allow users who don't subscribe to DirecTV to get NFL Sunday Ticket streamed via broadband for $350 a season. Unfortunately there's a catch: you have to be unable to get DirecTV service, via line of site obstruction, a horrible architectural disfigurement, or some other caveat.
That's just plain dumb, DirecTV. I thought you guys were smarter than that.
How is that dumb of them? Do you realize how many people subscribe to DirecTV for the sole purpose of having access to the Sunday Ticket? They would lose a lot of subscribers if they opened it up to everyone.

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said by newview:

quote:
DirecTV recently announced they were going to allow users who don't subscribe to DirecTV to get NFL Sunday Ticket streamed via broadband for $350 a season. Unfortunately there's a catch: you have to be unable to get DirecTV service, via line of site obstruction, a horrible architectural disfigurement, or some other caveat.
That's just plain dumb, DirecTV. I thought you guys were smarter than that.
They actually are "smarter than that" because once the football season is over, the remainder of 2 year commitment remains or they collect the ETF.

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Sunday Ticket from fan perspective

$350 sounds like a lot of money, but in all honesty before I had the Sunday Ticket I had been going to the sports bar every Sunday to watch my team since I was like 18, and as you can tell by dropping by a sports bar on A sunday afternoon I'm not the only one. Compared to the $25-$50 a week spent at a sports bar the Sunday ticket is a great deal. Of course the other leagues are cheaper. They dont draw NFL crowds at the bar until the championship, and even then they would be hard pressed to get anyone to pay a cover to watch NBA or MLB championship games. Sports bars regularly command admission fees for every week of the NFL season.

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Re: Sunday Ticket from fan perspective

I've been a Sunday Ticket subscriber for 17 years for the same reason, to watch my team and avoid a sports bar. Plus, I don't drink, I couldn't hear the games and I had to put up with drunken, obnoxious Cowboy fans. You know who you are.

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never

I love the NFL, and I would never pay $350 to watch games. With sites like channelsurfing, myp2pforum, sopcast, veetle, etc.....I never pay for the games I wanna watch. Good thing the only games I really care to watch are the Broncos and Vikings....usually I sit at the local pub and watch them, they have sunday ticket, and like 12 tv's so they have every game, and at $8 for a bucket of beer (4 beers in an ice bucket) it's cheap to sit there....and they usually have free munchies at halftime.
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I hate to say it but i actually want to wonderment's help ;)

I would not mind seeing congress get involved make the NFL a public right of domain and hell well the city's build the stadiums so does the NFL has the city's permissions to air those stadiums and events cross state. Anyways its starting to seem & to feel like the NFL feels like the really do own the league instead of just speaking for the league and all the teams in it when originally it was basically the union of all the teams under one company to represent them and each team was its own entity in away, like what happens if the Baltimore ravens wanted to make a NFL game called the Baltimore ravens football can the NFL tell the owner of the ravens no.... The NFL already gets kick backs from every state they play in also so to me this issue is growing a little ramped. The NFL ticket to me under its design seems to be anti-competitive and unfair to every other television provider considering it is America's past time. The same with the game they made "madden" they made a exclusive deal making the NFL in some terms a Monopoly on a sport that is backed by tax paying dollars and so one, just like giving just direct tv access to all the games this contract give ea fulls rights to gives the a monopoly of the market as well to ea to be the only person allowed to make a NFL based game. The government needs to take a further look in to what really is the NFL are they private corporation like the WWE who did it their self, or are they publicly helped & formed company with the backing and support of local states, city's & government & agency. Just like the NFL allot Baltimore's history to be taken, wonder how Indy's horse racing going!

The hole XFL Deal was bull crap but thinking about it, it could have been better but to tell you what a XFL with out the need of changing allot of rules just to simply replace what is now starting to become to most uncompetitive, greedy company ever they forget they got its start from hard working people who they eventually they all screwed over. Mind you the still open case The city of Baltimore vs the NFL for the rights to the Baltimore Colts History, hell the players pleaded with them to give credit where credit was due but no, no if the history does not belong to the city. Then you need to drop the city's name's from the teams and build your own god dam stadiums and pay real rent. The congress needs to remind them whats, what... & whats fair play and non anti competitive BS. For instances their where plenty of games better then madden yet for the money thrown up, that no longer mattered. Now they have EA who pulled football from pc's the ultimate in modification and gaming. Not to mention for many years the game was just a repeat over and over. I'm sure others would love to be able to create a tittle for the PC version. But even if EA stopped making NFL games no one can because ea owns the licence, how can you own a licence to the NFL? So does that mean you own the licence to the Raiders? Its players? Its fields, the city? What Ever I'm a NFL Die hard but I hate to actually go down as a Die hard
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No different than current subscribers..

For people who currently have Sunday Ticket they STILL have to pay extra to get the broadband option. Kinda crazy considering the price already. At least I am getting half off of ST.

I still dont think that ST is a good bargain even at half price. I just want to watch 1 team..I want that option.. 50$ for a team pass or something. I think the NBA has that but its a 7 team package and you get to choose what teams you want.
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Split the price

Looking for 15 people to split the price.

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Re: Split the price

said by brianiscool:

Looking for 15 people to split the price.
That won't work... I tried this service last weekend (got a refund because it hardly worked at all). Before I called to cancel and demand a refund, I tried to connect multiple PCs at once. Also tried a PC and the Android app. Bottom line is one connection per account.

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