 Network Guy
join:2000-08-25
New York | Here it comes again Maybe Verizon won't bark at this, but you can bet the MSOs will.
We'll have to wait and see how the hearing on traffic shaping goes for Comcast to see how well this bodes going forward. | |
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA | Re: Here it comes again Riiiight.... The same Verizon that wants you to use VCast and not Sling. | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: Here it comes again Actually, that's a different Verizon... kindof/sortof/maybe... | |
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join:2000-08-25
New York | Re: Here it comes again Yeah. Don't you know their hands never know what each other are doing? | |
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA
| Yeah... That is the Verizon that got the customer base and now wants to exploit it vs. the Verizon that is going to bait the customer base before it exploits it. Go FiOS!!
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Anon3456
@cox.net | They keep resetting the port I open for my sling box. I think they know what they are doing when this happens. Think of it as the poor man's traffic shaping. Kinda thinking of streaming to a PC 24/7 just to get their goat. | |
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| openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL
 ·Mediacom
| said by Network Guy  :We'll have to wait and see how the hearing on traffic shaping goes for Comcast to see how well this bodes going forward. It won't become a net neutrality issue because providers aren't willing to open Pandora's Box. However, content providers continuing down this path may invigorate bill-by-the-byte and/or setting caps and billing for overages...effectively restricting their "competition" by not having to worry about net neutrality issues. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Definitely interesting... Especially if its HD. Standard def wouldn't be an issue for many users - HD = high bandwidth
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brian188
join:2006-03-23
Loveland, CO | Re: Definitely interesting... All true, but I take exception to the article calling it "competitor's bandwidth". It's MY bandwidth! I'll do what I want with it. I don't buy a Chevy, and then let Chevy tell me I can't drive to a Ford dealer.
Should be fun to watch. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
 ·DSL EXTREME
·DSL EXTREME
| Re: Definitely interesting... I agree... this will be interesting, and as long as these ISP's don't become AOL all over again, they should not care what I use the bandwidth for, even if its competition. Its like me using dry loop DSL to run Vonage so that I don't have to pay BS fees to the Telco.
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DemonicLlama
join:2007-11-19
Potomac, MD | FAP So ill hit my FAP that much quicker ehh. Its much easier for me to use my Vista pc with the directv guide. | |
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Toadman
Hypnotoad
join:2001-11-28
Medina, OH | Re: FAP It will be interesting to see how they handle the FAP for their direcway customers. Maybe they will exclude their domain, nah, gready bastards | |
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dave787777
@bellatlantic.com | Re: FAP Forget download HD content with direcway..........my guess even byond FAP would be 2 weeks pulling down a movie. | |
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JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL | DirecTV R10 receiver Anyone know if this service will be available for Directv R10 receiver?
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join:2005-01-25 | Re: DirecTV R10 receiver Unfortunatly, probably not (I have 2 R-10's). I think this is more for the HR-20/21 crowd (I have one of those, too). But once you get VOD working, Media Share is but a step away. | |
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aaron8301
I can't get myself to go away.
join:2005-01-03
Clarkston, WA
·CableOne
| said by JSRoman :Anyone know if this service will be available for Directv R10 receiver? Yes, this is only for the HDDVRs. | |
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neufuse
join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA | Kicked off? So what happens when comcast kicks me off for using directtv's VOD too much and "hogging" their bandwidth? can I file a suit in court against them for preventing access to a competetor? This could get sicky fast... | |
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TK Junk Mail
Go ahead, make my day
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Margate City, NJ
clubs:
·Comcast
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March 13th, @02:03PM
| Re: Kicked off? said by neufuse :So what happens when comcast kicks me off for using directtv's VOD too much and "hogging" their bandwidth? can I file a suit in court against them for preventing access to a competetor? This could get sicky fast... Verizon, Comcast, etc should just start charging high per byte fees when you go over a threshold. No neutrality issues to deal with. If you are bandwidth hog, you pay.
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join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA | Re: Kicked off? I can see them taking is to the ringer for that though... something like 5GB per month for only $39! each gig after $5! | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| If the DirecTV is being purchased through agreement with a telco (like Qwest and Verizon do with DSL- IIRC AT&T uses Dish?), DirecTV-OnDemand shouldn't be capped or thresholded- I would assume that DirecTV would at least try to prevent that from happening when they negotiate their ongoing deals with the telcos | |
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newview
Ex .. Ex .. Exactly
Premium
join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD | Comcast will block it . . . . . . and then lie about it. | |
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RadioDoc
Sortofadog
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: Comcast will block it . . . They'll sneak a prohibition of watching anyone else's VoD into page 72 paragraph 129(c)(4)(ii) after the fact, and confiscate all your video displays if you do. Then give you one which only gets CHANNEL 1.
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Austin, TX
clubs: | Re: Comcast will block it . . . Dear god, not channel 1! | |
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Corydon
Cultivant son jardin
Premium
join:2008-02-18
Denver, CO
clubs:
·Comcast
| For a few more angles... Just how many ethernet connected products are we going to end up with? I've maxed out my four-port wireless router (although I could free up a port if I put the laptop back on wireless).
Speaking of wireless, I wonder if they'll come out with a wireless version so I wouldn't have to run ethernet cable from the cable/DSL modem to the set top box.
Incidentally, this may be more designed to work with DSL than with cable broadband connections. Most MSOs charge you quite a bit extra for broadband without TV. I think with Comcast, the charge jumps from 42.95 per month to $55 or so, so if you really want VOD and cable broadband, you're probably better off sticking with the MSO for TV as well.
On the other hand, this will probably help telcos like Qwest and AT&T that are bundling satellite with DSL.
Finally, I wonder what kind of an impact this sort of VOD would have on someone trying to browse the internet at the same time? And how responsive will this system be compared with the VOD the MSOs offer? | |
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join:2007-11-19
Potomac, MD | Re: For a few more angles... Well i checked with comcast in my area for HSI service but its $62 a month. My hughesnet cost is less then half that(argue and negotiate with CS for a better price for my month to month plan which i chose over the year or more contracts they offer). | |
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Cultivant son jardin
Premium
join:2008-02-18
Denver, CO
clubs:
·Comcast
| Re: For a few more angles... I stand corrected. So it really does make no sense at all to buy naked HSI from Comcast (at $62 per month) and satellite from DirectTV just to get VOD.
You really are better off bundling either with the MSO or the telco for everything (no big surprise there). | |
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join:2007-11-19
Potomac, MD
 ·DIRECTV
| Re: For a few more angles... Well my area is kinda screwed. I live in Montgomery County Maryland. They have some deal with comcast that they recieved alot of income from Comcast tazes locally and they are forcing out competition like verizon. If fios/dsl was available from verizon, and i still get their mail offers for both, i get it in a heartbeat. Comcast is too expensive here(even after the tripledouble play offers promo period ends). | |
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Cultivant son jardin
Premium
join:2008-02-18
Denver, CO
clubs:
·Comcast
| Re: For a few more angles... Yeah, I can see that this is the route I'm going to have to follow when I finally buy my own place (assuming I ever settle down in one city!). Unfortunately, I have a predilection for late 19th/early 20th century brick houses (Denver has a lot of these), so wiring the place the way I want to will probably be a massive pain in the behind. | |
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| viperlmw
join:2005-01-25
·Qwest.net
| said by Corydon :~snip~ On the other hand, this will probably help telcos like Qwest and AT&T that are bundling satellite with DSL. ~snip~ This is a big reason Qwest is doing their FTTN build-out. | |
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aaron8301
I can't get myself to go away.
join:2005-01-03
Clarkston, WA
·CableOne
| First, if you're out of Ethernet ports, get a switch.
Second, Wireless Ethernet Bridge. Plug one of those into the HR21 (and anything else without wifi), problem solved. | |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY | On Demand.. If you are wired for a broadband connection.. there isn't a whole lot of reason to have DirectTv except for exclusive programming.. though once a program airs.. there's nothing to prevent it from hitting the bittorrent superhighway. | |
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| djeremy
join:2004-07-12
San Francisco, CA | Re: On Demand.. I don't know about all that. I have Directv because of all those wonderful HD channels. Comcast doesn't even offer half the HD programming in my area and still costs more. | |
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join:2005-01-25
·Qwest.net
| Re: On Demand.. said by djeremy :I don't know about all that. I have Directv because of all those wonderful HD channels. Comcast doesn't even offer half the HD programming in my area and still costs more. ...with more HD coming with the launch of DirecTV 11 in the next week. Check it out »www.sea-launch.com/current_launch.htm | |
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aaron8301
I can't get myself to go away.
join:2005-01-03
Clarkston, WA
·CableOne
| said by tmc8080 :If you are wired for a broadband connection.. there isn't a whole lot of reason to have DirectTv If you have an HDTV (which this service is for anyway), DirecTV is the best option for programming. They currently have more HD channels than any other provider, and are launching a new sat next week to provide more. | |
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almaden
join:2004-03-03
Renton, WA
| My experience with DTV VOD I've been trying out the DTV VOD since early December on my HR20-700. Overall, I've been very pleased with it. So far, I've only been downloading programs that I selected, so if there is an automatic push feature I have not tried it.
Pros:
- Good selection of recent programs from History, A&E, NAT, and the rest
- Relatively easy to select programs and add them to the download queue
- HR20 can download a VOD program, record two more from SAT and play something from the hard disk all at the same time - cool
- Currently is free (hope it stays that way)
-VOD programs usually only have 1 or 2 30 second ads
Cons:
- HR20 is sluggish when trying to browse VOD selections, it takes a long time to populate a list and complete a selection
- Quality of VOD titles, especially SDTV programs, is a little pixelated and the screen area is cropped to keep the file sizes smaller
- There seems to be no way to determine what the file size of a program is before you download it
- Overall download speeds seem slow, although it is difficult to determine how fast DTV is pumping it out - I suspect they are limiting it on the head end to not anger their competitors/ISPs
I think the DTV VOD is a great feature to have. Just don't charge me more for it. | |
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dnoyeB
Ferrous Phallus
join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI | Its my bandwidth "given you've got a satellite provider suddenly using a competitor's bandwidth"
The bandwidth is bought and paid for. I am not a competitor of DirectTV. | |
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@sbcglobal.net | Re: Its my bandwidth My sentiments exactly. Net-neutrality just means they want to get paid on both ends. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL | It's bought and paid for based on your ToS and AUP. It isn't your bandwidth, it's your provider's. | |
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Neyland85
join:2003-02-04
North Augusta, SC | Dish Does It Now I can get 'VOD' through Dish via the internet now...
'Course I wonder how ATT's new upcoming DNA sampling will deal with it? | |
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PINGPINGLAMING
@pacbell.net | How come? We only see news here about DirecTV's VOD? There are other companies providing VOD correct? Looks like I need to find a better place for news from now on. | |
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chrisbmoore
join:2003-08-28
Frederick, MD
·DIRECTV
·Comcast
| been using it... I've been using the VOD beta on my hr21 with Comcast for a few months now. I haven't had any issues with Comcast saying I'm hogging bandwidth, but the speeds have drastically decreased as of late. I can download any program on the on demand though in a fairly reasonable amount of time (10-15 min) and it really isn't difficult to do at all. I think when the service officially launches it will be a great one. I'm enjoying the beta immensely. | |
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old_dawg
"I Know Noting..."
join:2001-09-22
Westminster, MD |  just like...
Just like Sprint's Airave!
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, this gives me a nice a set of ports in the closet for a server and some data storage. Everything requiring communications will have an ethernet port and maybe wireless soon.
