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Grove City, PA | Another 200 channels? I've followed on this and only found it will allow them another extra 50 HD channels, or for around 200 total.
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| My Bill was about $40 per month in 2000. I paid $29.95 +$5 for slave receiver and another $5 for local channels in year 2000. I dumped Dtv for FiOS in 2007 when my bill was scheduled to jump to nearly $60 per month for exactly the same service I had in 2000. It must be approaching $75 per month for what I had in 2000. I blame most of the hikes on the demand for HD, resulting in newer satellites needing to be launched. Unfortunately those that don't want HD get stuck with the bill too. | |
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| | | Re: My Bill was about $40 per month in 2000. Very true... that, and sports packages.
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West Des Moines, IA | Re: My Bill was about $40 per month in 2000. said by gopnick:Very true... that, and sports packages. I subscribe to HD but no extra sports... so I'm sort of in the middle as far the as screwed-to-getting-screwed ratio. I hope you didn't get the NFL Season ticket. NFL Redzone does everything the season ticket does, and better. It only costs me $5 /month and I can unsubscribe at any time.
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| | | Re: If my rates are going up. Agreed! And before the Dakar race/broadcast. | |
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join:2001-05-18
Rancho Cucamonga, CA | No sensationalizing here 60% increase the sky is falling!
oh wait its just for international subs, and it went from $10-$13-$16
but they really got me over a barrel, most of the great shows aren't on broadcast tv of course. so i must have paid tv and i'll probably continue to waste $120+ on it, until i get the nerve up to just get everything 10 minutes after it aired on my favorite torrent tracker, and cancel directv. i wonder what id do with the extra money | |
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kudos:1 | Re: No sensationalizing here said by tacoma:60% increase the sky is falling! oh wait its just for international subs, and it went from $10-$13-$16 but they really got me over a barrel, most of the great shows aren't on broadcast tv of course. so i must have paid tv and i'll probably continue to waste $120+ on it, until i get the nerve up to just get everything 10 minutes after it aired on my favorite torrent tracker, and cancel directv. i wonder what id do with the extra money But then you are murdering kitties by downloading illegally! Think of the kitties why don't you! MURDERER!    | |
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Camden, TN | said by tacoma:60% increase the sky is falling! oh wait its just for international subs, and it went from $10-$13-$16 $6 a month is $72 a year over 10 years that's $720. That's decent HDTV. So basically you're giving DirecTv a new HDTV every 10 years. No biggie right? | |
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kudos:1 | said by tacoma:but they really got me over a barrel, most of the great shows aren't on broadcast tv of course. so i must have paid tv and i'll probably continue to waste $120+ on it, until i get the nerve up to just get everything 10 minutes after it aired on my favorite torrent tracker, and cancel directv. i wonder what id do with the extra money I used my first month of savings to pay for the OTA antenna. The second month of savings to pay for the OTA Antenna booster. (needed only because I'm stuck using an attic mount, and all of my stations 40+ miles away) If I hadn't already had the tuner card laying around, that would have eaten up month 3 of savings.
Since then I've used the $93.52 I was paying (for basic channels + HD + 1 DVR) to pad my savings account. I can't blame DirecTV entirely for that price, here in FL there is an an insanely high communications tax on satellite. But I got sick of watching the bill climb up a few dollars every few months, while we still only watched the same dozen or so stations.
We still watch every show we did before, but I now I don't even have to bother fast forwarding through commercials. My equipment runs better than their DVR, and if I don't like the way something works, I can change it. The one and only thing I miss is seeing the previews and such for new shows. But they are easy enough to find online. | |
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kudos:1 | If cost is too high Turn the service off-Cable & Dish ,Fios are all going up-Everyone who works for D* needs a raise as well.
If you turn the service off, you will no longer get a bill or a price hike.
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join:2002-03-03
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kudos:5 | Re: If cost is too high said by westdc:Turn the service off-Cable & Dish ,Fios are all going up-Everyone who works for D* needs a raise as well. If you turn the service off, you will no longer get a bill or a price hike. I enjoy the service, when it reaches my price point, I'll turn the service off. And this is just more proof that the content providers are driving the price increases. The increases are being levied by cable; telco; satellite and they compete against each other. They are all raising rates and it is because Hollyweird is the real monopoly the FCC won't touch.
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| | | | Re: If cost is too high content providers do hold same of the blame. but cable satellite provider are also increaseing there rates too. the price of dvr has nothing to do with the content providers. | |
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Complete nonsense. The FCC has absolutely no jurisdiction over the motion picture industry, be it in Hollywood, New York, Albuquerque, Salt Lake City, or anywhere else. It's jurisdiction over cable tv is cursory, and it's control over Satellite is virtually nil. | |
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Coventry, RI | Re: If cost is too high >>It's [FCC] jurisdiction over cable tv is cursory, and it's control over Satellite is virtually nil.
And that's the problem. Cable FIOS and Sat, clearly are an oligopoly, and the TV networks are the same. They need some serious regulation.
I wouldn't count this new FCC commissioner out just yet. It will take some balls to stand up to them, but his recent comments on Net Neutrality have at least given me hope in that area.
For now, I am using OTA, and writing the FCC and all my representatives with my comments on the recent rumblings from FOX about abandoning broadcast TV. There are twenty million people using OTA, and that number is growing, not declining, since the switch to digital. Their complaints of lost revenue are pure bunk. They simply can't stand that they are not getting paid from both ends.
The more people that move to OTA, the less they will be able to avoid the numbers. There's a lot of digital bandwidth on the sub channels going to waste. You would think they would be anxious to fill that with commercials.
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1 edit | DTV lied to me... When I signed up, they told me that my contract was for 18 months. Now they claim it's for two years-and the 18 months runs out on the 17th.
I'm self employed and had a major client file for bankruptcy on December 23rd owing me $2500.00 so I couldn't pay the DTV bill (I owe for December and January) and they shut me off yesterday. I won't have the $$ in house to pay until the 18th. Guess what? Over the air serves me just fine. Paying 80 dollars a month for HD service with no premium channels is a luxury I can't afford right now.
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1 edit | Re: DTV lied to me... said by qworster:When I signed up, they told me that my contract was for 18 months. Now they claim it's for two years-and the 18 months runs out on the 17th. I'm self employed and had a major client file for bankruptcy on December 23rd owing me $2500.00 so I couldn't pay the DTV bill (I owe for December and January) and they shut me off yesterday. I won't have the $$ in house to pay until the 18th. Guess what? Over the air serves me just fine. Paying 80 dollars a month for HD service with no premium channels is a luxury I can't afford right now. Has anyone else had experience with them increasing the terms of their committment? yes it happened to me. After at least an hour talking and it being escalated to a "manager" it was reduced to the proper contract length I had signed.
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About a year ago, Charter rewired the whole town (all 12,000 of us) with fibre-optic.
It looks like DirecTV is going to run me at least $80.00 a month. Foregoing the "which-is-better" argument, I can approximate what I have, programming and hardware wise, with Charter for about $75.00 a month, installation free and no contract. FOR THE FIRST SIX MONTHS! After that, apparently, all bets are off, and the price tag tops out at nearly $100.00.
I'm living on Social Security. We've just been informed Social Security has been frozen and there will be no benefit increase for cost-of-living this year. In the govt. view, I guess, there has been no increase in the cost of gas, groceries, rent, trash pickup, energy, medication, health-care, AND TV in the last year. And it seems they are unaware there is a recession going on and the economy is in the toilet, which I can't afford to flush!
I think my high-def TV, which I sweated bullets to afford, is about to become the worlds most elaborate paper weight. | |
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No one I know has gotten a raise , many had to take pay cuts. But yet these fools decide they need to raise rates.
All of these companies really need a good swift boot in the ass. And the investors they serve need to stop being greedy.
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| Re: Goin' Broke said by SauceMaster:said by callingbrian:I'm living on Social Security. We've just been informed Social Security has been frozen and there will be no benefit increase for cost-of-living this year. In the govt. view, I guess, there has been no increase in the cost of gas, groceries, rent, trash pickup, energy, medication, health-care, AND TV in the last year. And it seems they are unaware there is a recession going on and the economy is in the toilet, which I can't afford to flush! I think my high-def TV, which I sweated bullets to afford, is about to become the worlds most elaborate paper weight. It's not just this year ... it's for 2 years. So you will get no cost of living increase next year either. The next potential increase would be 2012 , if your lucky. I don't live on SS, but I do pay into it.
I use Netflix and the internet, cheaper and better.
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Camden, TN | said by callingbrian:I'm living on Social Security. We've just been informed Social Security has been frozen and there will be no benefit increase for cost-of-living this year. In the govt. view, I guess, there has been no increase in the cost of gas, groceries, rent, trash pickup, energy, medication, health-care, AND TV in the last year. And it seems they are unaware there is a recession going on and the economy is in the toilet, which I can't afford to flush! Actually the recession is the EXACT reason why you didn't get an increase. If you actually bothered to learn how SS determines COLA you'd understand. Yeah it sucks not to get an increase but based on the numbers it is what was called for.
from the SS website
How is a COLA calculated?
The Social Security Act specifies a formula for determining each COLA. In general, a COLA is equal to the percentage increase in the Consumer Price Index for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W) from the third quarter of one year to the third quarter of the next. If there is no increase, there is no COLA.
Oh by the way the cost of gas went DOWN last year. The year before it was up over $4 a gallon this year hovered around $2.50. That's a nearly 40% drop in price. | |
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Little Rock, AR | Re: Goin' Broke Funny how SS was frozen but Welfare got a rate increase.
Buy them votes boys.
Thank you for allowing me to pay for it.
If welfare was paid by a tax on the rich it would be gone in 2 weeks | |
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Camden, TN | said by sparks:Funny how SS was frozen but Welfare got a rate increase. Buy them votes boys. Thank you for allowing me to pay for it. If welfare was paid by a tax on the rich it would be gone in 2 weeks Yes politicians are buying votes from people on WELFARE who not only don't have any money but typically don't vote and off course they PURPOSELY want to piss off people that get SS who are typcially older Americans and have the highest % of voters.
Do you HONESTLY believe that bullshit you just wrote? And oh by the way Congress doesn't decide if SS gets an increase or not. The IGNORANCE of how this government works by the overwhelmingly number of people is amazing. Honestly people there are all kinds of resources on the internet for you to use to learn how our system of government works. | |
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| | We're in luck Well good thing it is becoming increasingly easy to pirate a TV show 1 hour after it airs. No need to pay these ever increasing prices for TV shows saturated with commercials. | |
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Glen Head, NY | No Surprise! Have to pay extra for Fox, Food and HGTV. Not to mention CBS, ABC and NBC soon.
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| | Rate Hike I will NOT pay $6.99 a month for each of my DVR's just to have the 'privledge' of being able to record TV shows. I'll just go back to my VCR's. | |
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| | | Re: Rate Hike said by Ioweyou :
I will NOT pay $6.99 a month for each of my DVR's just to have the 'privledge' of being able to record TV shows. I'll just go back to my VCR's.
$7 for all the dvr's vs $15-$20 per on cable. | |
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| | | | Re: Rate Hike Correct, & actually, when DirecTV first came out with the D-Tivo's, the DVR fee was $10/month for all DVR's. They also charged a $10 DVR fee for the UltimateTV DVR's that some people still use. (if you happened to have both types of receivers on your account, you paid TWO DVR fees...)
When DirecTV took over the DVR service from Tivo, they actually cut the price in 1/2 to $5 for all DVR's on an account. I'm not saying it's a good thing that DirecTV is raising their DVR rates, but they are still the cheapest of all DVR services out there, particularly if you have multiple DVR's.
'course I can't complain - I paid the $249 lifetime DVR fee when it was still available & now pay ZERO DVR fees for all 5 DVR's on my account; best $$$ I ever spent & it's already paid for itself twice+!  | |
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| stock market rally there is real pain in the economy (the people) and even on this bad news the stock market rallies... little do these day traders know that pumping up commodities is a great way to start the roller coaster a-going again! this time around alot of these mainstream companies are going to get hit hard in the bottom line. make sure the deals are more that 50% off these just raised rates for a timeframe of not less that 1 year.. with no contract requirement before even considering to sign back up.
cable-tv subscription rates will fall in 2010-- not rise. THIS TIME there is fire in that smoke filled back room where these deals to raise consumer's rates will lead to real consumer backlash & unaffordable pricing (for the lower middle class). nevertheless, individuals & families do without worse than advertisement padded cable-tv luxury. | |
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1 edit | My DTV bill is going up $3.00 and I ain't sweating it none. I'm not liking that it's going up $3.00 a month but $3.00 a month ain't going to make me or break me.
I'm getting nickled and dimed to death everywhere I turn so $3.00 a month don't even phase me anymore. $3.00 a month is like loose change you find under your couch cushions.
These f*ckers below are the ones that are raping me.
Not in any order.
Water bill.
Electric bill.
Natural Gas bill.
Food costs.
Health Care costs.
Fuel costs.
They got it broke off so deep in me that $3.00 don't even make me flinch! | |
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| Re: My DTV bill is going up $3.00 and I ain't sweating it none. That's me. I was a Directv customer going back to 1997. My receiver quit so I went to Best Buy to get one. Was informed even though I had been one of the original customers I would have to sign a 2 year contract. Sorry dude, not happening.
Called Directv and thought that would turn out different. Nope. Did not matter how long I had been loyal to them, I had to sign a 2 year contract.
In this economy and at my age I don't know what is going on 2 years from now. Also you keep me by satisfaction not obligation. OTA antenna and Netflix have been doing an excellent job and cash in my pocket. | |
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| | | | Re: My DTV bill is going up $3.00 and I ain't sweating it none. You do realize they are talking about doing away with free OTA. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: My DTV bill is going up $3.00 and I ain't sweating it none. said by Hazeleyze:You do realize they are talking about doing away with free OTA. A) they are TALKING about it. doesn't mean it's happening.
B) it took over 13 years form the time they pass the OTA digital conversion into law until it actually happened. So even if OTA goes away it won't be for at least 10 years. Why worry about something that's not going to happen for a decade? In the meantime someone can save $10,000 in that time. | |
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Westminster, MD | said by rid0617:That's me. I was a Directv customer going back to 1997. My receiver quit so I went to Best Buy to get one. Was informed even though I had been one of the original customers I would have to sign a 2 year contract. Sorry dude, not happening. Called Directv and thought that would turn out different. Nope. Did not matter how long I had been loyal to them, I had to sign a 2 year contract. In this economy and at my age I don't know what is going on 2 years from now. Also you keep me by satisfaction not obligation. OTA antenna and Netflix have been doing an excellent job and cash in my pocket. My Hughes DVR40 started emitting a death rattle not long ago and DTV sent out a their "home brew" replacement DVR at no charge to me and NO 2 year contract. I am "grand fathered" and do have the DTV service contract, so I obviously my expereince is different than yours.
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| I may need to switch.. I currently have about $41.00 in credits due to customer referrals, 12 month programming credits and dvr credits. Once these credits expire, I believe I may be switching to Brighthouse/AT&T U-Verse for my TV service. I currently have Brighthouse for phone and internet so a combo deal would be very cheap for me. | |
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| Re: I may need to switch.. said by gigahurtz:I currently have about $41.00 in credits due to customer referrals, 12 month programming credits and dvr credits. Once these credits expire, I believe I may be switching to Brighthouse/AT&T U-Verse for my TV service. I currently have Brighthouse for phone and internet so a combo deal would be very cheap for me. Canceled on Thursday and had Brighthouse hooked up today. I made my payment for the month for DirecTV and I'm owed $77.00. They said it will take "6-8 weeks" to process. I asked them why they didn't allow me 6-8 weeks to make a payment. | |
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| | Can I get out of my DTV contract ? Can I get out of my contract with DTV since they are changing my rate plan ? I have been with them for about 13 months, and I am looking for an excuse to leave them w/o paying any fees. Anyone out there know the answer to this ? | |
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Palm Coast, FL | Re: Can I get out of my DTV contract ? I'd be very interested to hear the answer to this. | |
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Little Rock, AR | Re: Can I get out of my DTV contract ? I changed from std to HD service in dec 07
They made me get a new contract.
Rate hike in Feb 08 ...Nothing but a big rip off
And they just go buy some of the gov people and do what they want just like all of them.
Worst thing I ever read about rate hikes is it mostly for sports.
Then Comcast pres defends it by saying well if the people who watched sports had to pay for it they couldn't afford it so everyone gets some. | |
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| | Another headline with another load of crap. Let's make sure we play up the negative. I looked at the 60% and it's based on pricing on the international basic package increase from 2008 to 2010. On top of that it's a $3 increase over last year. | |
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@Joey Mac You can get out of your contract very simply. Move to a new place like an apartment or townhouse and call DTV and tell them you don't have 'line of site' because there's a big tree blocking your new patio or your patio faces north. Tell them your property manager will only allow a tripod mounted dish and won't let you mount it on the building. If you don't want to move tell them the city just put up a parking garage across the street and it's blocking your signal. If you insist that you cannot remount the dish somewhere to get line of site they will let you out of your contract. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Its PROGRAMMING costs Hoe dare they try to make money. Don't they know they are supposed to provide with entertainment of free? They sound like Hollywood or the music industry always talking about losing profits. They never learn. If they'd only provide us with all our entertainment for free with no advertising they would make a killing! Don't ask me how, I think it works sort of like magic. | |
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Santa Monica, CA | said by BillRoland:The reason they keep raising rates is because content providers keep charging them more. Its clear nobody is going to eat all of it, cable companies, telco TV, nor satellite are willing to absorb all the rate hikes. They have bottom lines too. All the more reason to implement ala carte, and let the consumer decide what he really wants to buy, rather than hide behind "programming costs" ($.30) as a convenient scapegoat.
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