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Until you can watch it without glasses and without getting sick, I don't see it becoming mainstream. I applaud them for trying to be ahead of the curve, but I still don't see the appeal of 3D. | |
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I just recently saw the 3D verision of AVATAR. Though the graphics were outstanding; it appears that the 3D technology is still a little bit away from perfection, and I dont think is a good idea for the home team environment.
I would agree with most of the posts here that more HD, more 1080P (or 2160P when its ready) should be the goal of providers, not 3D | |
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| Re: Not Impressed There are lots of people who can't see in 3D ... in fact most people with crossed eyes can't see 3D in real life, so how they'll see the 3D TV is beyond me ... Until they can find a way to make it compatible and not do the dual image thing, I don't see how it can succeed. | |
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Chesterfield, MO | Re: Not Impressed Now how many people are cross-eyed? Come on. Regardless of what you think about 3D (which I tend to agree is overblown and overrated), it just doesn't seem plausible to make a claim that 3D is stupid based on the number of "cross eyed" people.
My graduate statistics professor said, in order of trust worthiness, there are liars, damn liars and statisticians. Your claims are not unlike unlike the recent claims that the SSN algorithm isn't as "random" as expected. The article I read claimed that 10% of some east coast state's numbers could be guessed after just 10 tries. 10% after 10 tries, in one of 50 states? Just how significant is that?????? | |
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I just saw avatar. You need glasses, but there is no way it will make you sick. It was great.
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| Re: Really? said by r81984:Have you been to a 3D movie lately? I just saw avatar. You need glasses, but there is no way it will make you sick. It was great. It does make people sick. Not everyone handles the 3D motion well. I don't get sick on roller coasters, but others do.
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| Re: Really? said by Archivis:said by r81984:Have you been to a 3D movie lately? I just saw avatar. You need glasses, but there is no way it will make you sick. It was great. It does make people sick. Not everyone handles the 3D motion well. I don't get sick on roller coasters, but others do. Those are the people that get sick just walkinng down the street. Humans were made to see in 3D that is why we have two eyes. The people you are talking about are not normal.
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| Re: Really? That's a retarded statement. Those people don't get "sick walking down the street". 3D in movie theaters is not the same as 3D in real life. It's a distortion that some people can't see as well as others.
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| Re: Really? Mine are grounded in thought and logic. Yours are grounded in egotism and world-revolves-around-me thinking. Not everyone sees like you. Not everyone handles motion as well as you. Everyone handles everything different. People DO get sick from watching movies in 3D. My wife gets sick watching them in 3D. She does not get sick "walking down the street". That is absurd.
The 3D is not a natural 3D like real life. It is a trickery of light, polarity and the mind, to generate 3D-looking images, not create true 3D. People react differently.
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The 3D was so bad, the bit-rate was so horrible which made the entire movie very blurry, the beginning was the worst part as it was most blurry then, defiantly a rushed picture. The frame rate was also very horrible and it lagged. If your gonna put a 3D channel it better be real 3D as in pictures u can grab and touch. Not some fake 3D that looks like 2D with some minor 3D effects. I know what excellent 3D looks like and Avatar was the worse use of the technology I've ever seen. I've seen 10 year old movies with real 3D that look 100x better than Avatar did, but I'm blaming that on the movie theater hopefully as it didn't seem like it was capable of playing 3D, 2D would've been defiantly better where I saw it.
If they put out 3D make it real 3D (grab and touch) and playing at double the frame rate. 24fps on 3D is just begging for trouble. | |
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| Re: Really? said by rollaster:Avatar was a really crappy 3D movie, defiantly the worst use of 3D I've ever seen. I guess it's that I didn't see it in IMAX where I'm used to 3D where I can grab and touch it. The 3D was so bad, the bit-rate was so horrible which made the entire movie very blurry, the beginning was the worst part as it was most blurry then, defiantly a rushed picture. The frame rate was also very horrible and it lagged. If your gonna put a 3D channel it better be real 3D as in pictures u can grab and touch. Not some fake 3D that looks like 2D with some minor 3D effects. I know what excellent 3D looks like and Avatar was the worse use of the technology I've ever seen. I've seen 10 year old movies with real 3D that look 100x better than Avatar did, but I'm blaming that on the movie theater hopefully as it didn't seem like it was capable of playing 3D, 2D would've been defiantly better where I saw it. If they put out 3D make it real 3D (grab and touch) and playing at double the frame rate. 24fps on 3D is just begging for trouble. Sounds like you went to a bad movie theater. I haven't seen the movie so I can't verify, though.
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kudos:1 | Re: Hmmmmm said by Romney2012:said by Cheese:Will we need fancy 3D glasses to see this? Just need to go on e-bay and buy up the 3d glasses leftover from the 1950's: [att=1] LOL! Actually, Nvidia sells 3D glasses, 10 for 10 bucks, but I think it's need to have their software to work. If anyone else has these, let me know! | |
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| said by Romney2012:said by Cheese:Will we need fancy 3D glasses to see this? Just need to go on e-bay and buy up the 3d glasses leftover from the 1950's: [att=1] the original 3D glasses that were used were polarized glasses like the ones used today. But back then they could not keep the projectors in sync for both images, so that was dumped for the glasses with the red/blue lenses. | |
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join:2002-03-05 | The bigger story... The bigger story here is the price increase that DirecTV is hitting everybody with. There have been a number of threads on cable company price increases... unless I'm missing something I haven't seen any threads on satellite TV price increases at DSLR. (Please point me in the right direction if there are.)
My biggest question related to the price increase: does this represent a material change to DirecTV's contract? If so, it should allow me to cancel service with them without paying any termination fees.
(Yippee! First I screwed Sprint by leaving 3 months into my 2 year contract with them ETF-free due to a $0.20/mo increase... now maybe I get to have some fun with DirecTV too! Everybody should insist upon exercising their rights when they are treated like garbage by companies.)
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said by DirecTV Email :
New Rates for DIRECTV® Service: New prices take effect February 9, 2010, and will appear on billing statements issued after that date. See the detailed information
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If your current DIRECTV base package price is part of a national promotional 12-month or “Lock in Your Price for 12 Months” offer, you will continue to receive this price
for the remainder of your offer period. As of next month’s bill, your promotional price will be shown on your statement as the new price along with a credit. Note: if you
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Base Packages: Base packages include local channels, where available. If DIRECTV does not offer local channels in your area, most programming packages are $3/
mo. less than the listed prices. Visit directv.com/locals to check availability by ZIP code. Packages and their new prices: CHOICE™ $58.99/mo.; CHOICE XTRA™ $63.99/
mo.; Jadeworld $39.99/mo.; LO MÁXIMO™ $114.99/mo.; OPTIMO MÁS™ $47.99/mo.; PREFERRED CHOICE™ $38.99/mo.; PREMIER™ $114.99/mo.; and TOTAL CHOICE®
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Outside of that, I don't really have a BIG problem with most of their price increases because frankly, I feel that DirecTV adds ENOUGH every year or so to warrant me not feeling cheated about paying a few bucks more.
I am not saying I don't have a problem paying more but I guess I feel MORE cheated with Verizon where I pay more with no increase whatsoever. | |
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Mechanicsville, VA | Agreed... My DirecTV account has been suspended for a while since I was in the process of moving. I am no longer under a contract so it looks like I will be cancelling and picking up the latest Dish promotion with free install for the house I am in now.
I am not really fond of dish but I will go where the less expense takes me. | |
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join:2002-03-05 | Re: Why? So that's why XM is offering give-away prices ($3-$4 per month cost) for those calling in and threatening to cancel... I've done that twice over the past year, and have gotten that price twice provided I'm willing to prepay it for 6 months.
The first time (start of last year) it cost me $24; when I did it in the middle of summer, they gave it to me for a little more than $18 for the whole 6 months. I'm getting ready to do it to them again in a few weeks... This time I'm going to push harder for them to include their online streaming music access with the price-- or at least provide a discount on that too.
As long as Sirius/XM is bleeding, I'd suggest that everyone act like sharks and get a piece of the action by calling and threatening to cancel... It's a good way to save at least a few dollars per month.
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| | No won't need 3D Glasses No you won't need a $1 Pair of 3D Glasses... You will need a New $2,500+ 3D Television  | |
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1 edit | Re: No won't need 3D Glasses said by SteveLV702:No you won't need a $1 Pair of 3D Glasses... You will need a New $2,500+ 3D Television At a minimum you will only need a HD television.
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Lake Zurich, IL | Re: No won't need 3D Glasses 3D HD works by combining two 1080 signals, which isn't something that today's TVs can do. | |
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Southington, OH | Re: No won't need 3D Glasses said by jester121:3D HD works by combining two 1080 signals, which isn't something that today's TVs can do. No you will need a 120hz TV, which some current HDTVs can do. What you'll need is a decoder in your box capable of decoding the Multiple Veiw Coding extention to the AVC specs. I doubt this is going to come cheap since I doubt existing equipment will have enough processing power to handle this.You'll also need special glasses.
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| Re: No won't need 3D Glasses My understanding is that the 120 Hz single frame flavor you're describing is referred to as 3D-lite. The HDMI 1.4 spec supposedly includes sending a right eye and a left eye 1080p signal and the TV swaps entire frames in and out to create a 3d experience. | |
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| Re: Cost? It would be interesting to see how much of their costs are related to content and licensing. I suspect that's the vast majority of it.
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yeah 1080P is only on PPV!, most likely the 3D will also be only on PPV!
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