 ChiyoSave Me Konata-ChanPremium join:2003-02-20 Charlotte, NC kudos:1 | Cool Too bad its only VOD but its a start I just hope it isn't all unconverted -- My Blog: »abanzai.animeblogger.net/ | |
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 |  maartenaElmoPremium join:2002-05-10 Orange, CA kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Re: Cool said by Chiyo:Too bad its only VOD The VOD content they have control over, the TV content they don't..... We'll have to wait till TV stations actually transmit in 1080p before we see that. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Cool They both suck anyway who cares, and they are not cheaper than cable | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: Cool said by Geminimind:They both suck anyway who cares, and they are not cheaper than cable said by Geminimind:They both suck anyway who cares, and they are not cheaper than cable WRONG.
I have the DishNetwork HD-only package for $29.99/mo + Cinemax HD (5 channels) for $0.01/mo, and DVR for $5/mo + locals in HD for $5/mo - total comes to about $45/mo with taxes. And this 'deal' sticks for the next 2 years.
No way Comcast (the cable company where I live) can beat that. The nearest package they have will cost me close to a $100/mo. And to include that they dont even have a HD-only package - I dont watch SD at all anymore.
Cable is WAY MORE EXPENSIVE. -- - Running Vista RTM  - Just bought a copy of Photoshop CS2!!!  | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: Cool Hmm for me to get tv from dish network it would cost me over 100 bucks a month just like comcast. I have 4 tv's and two of them are hooked up to dvrs Dont really care about movie channels because they suck too. But for me to hook up 4 tv's not all hd just 2 it would cost me over 100 bucks I went to the website and checked. | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | said by sat2:said by Geminimind:They both suck anyway who cares, and they are not cheaper than cable said by Geminimind:They both suck anyway who cares, and they are not cheaper than cable WRONG. I have the DishNetwork HD-only package for $29.99/mo + Cinemax HD (5 channels) for $0.01/mo, and DVR for $5/mo + locals in HD for $5/mo - total comes to about $45/mo with taxes. And this 'deal' sticks for the next 2 years. No way Comcast (the cable company where I live) can beat that. The nearest package they have will cost me close to a $100/mo. And to include that they dont even have a HD-only package - I dont watch SD at all anymore. Cable is WAY MORE EXPENSIVE. Cox HD channels are free. Not sure about Comcrap, er, Comcast! -- Saving the world keeps me busy. However, I find Earth very primitive from my home planet of Krypton. -Supergirl | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | said by sat2:said by Geminimind:They both suck anyway who cares, and they are not cheaper than cable said by Geminimind:They both suck anyway who cares, and they are not cheaper than cable WRONG. I have the DishNetwork HD-only package for $29.99/mo + Cinemax HD (5 channels) for $0.01/mo, and DVR for $5/mo + locals in HD for $5/mo - total comes to about $45/mo with taxes. And this 'deal' sticks for the next 2 years. No way Comcast (the cable company where I live) can beat that. The nearest package they have will cost me close to a $100/mo. And to include that they dont even have a HD-only package - I dont watch SD at all anymore. Cable is WAY MORE EXPENSIVE. dish makes you pay more a month for each box after the first one. Then direct TV and some cable systems. | |
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 DogfatherPremium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA 1 edit | I'll believe it when I see the data said by Dish Network : Starting August 1, Warner Bros. Pictures' blockbuster "I Am Legend" starring Will Smith will be available in 1080p resolution -- same as Blu-ray(R) Disc quality -- on DISH Network's VOD service, DISH On Demand, at a discounted price. Subscribers with MPEG-4 HD DVRs may order the movie on DISH Network Channel 501.
So we're to expect Blu-Ray quality? Sorry, I don't believe it. Of course it wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong but I will not believe it until I see actual bitrate (and other) data. | |
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 |  Anonymous_AnonymousPremium join:2004-06-21 127.0.0.1 kudos:2 | Re: I'll believe it when I see the data wel;l the bit rate for that movie is in the low 20's | |
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 |  1 edit | said by Dogfather: said by Dish Network : Starting August 1, Warner Bros. Pictures' blockbuster "I Am Legend" starring Will Smith will be available in 1080p resolution -- same as Blu-ray(R) Disc quality -- on DISH Network's VOD service, DISH On Demand, at a discounted price. Subscribers with MPEG-4 HD DVRs may order the movie on DISH Network Channel 501.
So we're to expect Blu-Ray quality? Sorry, I don't believe it. Of course it wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong but I will not believe it until I see actual bitrate (and other) data. Additionally, I'm curious as to whether that extends to audio as well. I can't imagine that they would also provide Dolby True HD and DTS-HD+MA. At least not without new STBs that could decode and/or bitstream these formats. It would sure be cool if they did though | |
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 |  RR ConductorHappy 40th AmtrakPremium join:2002-04-02 Redwood Valley, CA kudos:1 | Re: Total marketing BS said by curls310:Can I watch this on a cloudy day? What cable company do you work for?  | |
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 |  |  GNHTesla RecoiledPremium join:1999-12-20 Arlington, TX | Re: Total marketing BS It's a Verizonite. | |
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 |  ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium join:2005-03-14 Putnam, CT kudos:4 | Sure. Just turn on the lights in your room, Mr. Cable Worker.  | |
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 |  C0deZer0Oc'D To Rhythm And PolicePremium join:2001-10-03 Davenport, FL | A cloudy day affecting satellite speaks badly on the installer that did the job, not so much the dish hardware involved.
With my grandparents having had one of those big C-band sat dishes in their yard, I should know. When they upgraded to digital satellite, the installer "cocked it up" the first time around and it did get that bad, where the C-band was clear. A repair install later, and the thing was fine even in the heavy rains spawned from more than a few tropical storms and/or hurricanes.  | |
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 |  |  ssj4androidRedefining Reality join:2002-04-14 Wyoming, MI | Re: Total marketing BS I think my DSL goes out from storms about as much as my Dish Network signal did. GREAT idea not deploying FTTH, AT&T  | |
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 Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 1 edit | 1080P comes over your broadband connection ....
.... and not the satellite. 1080P is for their VOD component.
So all their bragging depends on the cable companies and telco to deliver their hot new product for them. »www.dishnetwork.com/content/what···ex.shtml | |
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 |  Smith6612Premium,MVM join:2008-02-01 North Tonawanda, NY kudos:21 Reviews:
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1 edit | Re: 1080P comes over your broadband connection .... The Telcos other than Verizon where there's FiOS rely on the satellite companies. Because of that, they'd obviously not want to tick off their bundled Satellite TV customers by capping their VOD. But it is possible to do 1080p over a satellite. We'll just have to see what Dish can cough up.
And for anyone who doesn't think Dish's DVR/HD receivers can do 1080p, guess again. My family relatives have their latest box, and it is delivering their TV 1080p via HDMI. It even shows up in a setting in the HDMI setup in the receiver which it is set for. | |
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 |  |  JSYPremium join:2000-04-05 Elmhurst, NY | Re: 1080P comes over your broadband connection .... said by Smith6612:And for anyone who doesn't think Dish's DVR/HD receivers can do 1080p, guess again. My family relatives have their latest box, and it is delivering their TV 1080p via HDMI. It even shows up in a setting in the HDMI setup in the receiver which it is set for. I have two ViP722s and in the HDTV setup I only see it go as high as 1080i. I'm pretty certain the 722 is their latest box but I don't see any option to output 1080p and my tv reports that it's receiving 1080i. Not saying I don't believe you (I actually do), but if there is a way for me to enable 1080p, I'd like to know. 
Yes, my tv supports 1080p.. heh. | |
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 |  |  sporkmedrop the crantini and move it, sisterPremium,MVM join:2000-07-01 Morristown, NJ Reviews:
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| Re: 1080P comes over your broadband connection .... said by canesfan2001:And since I'm paying for that connection, it's my money that pays for it anyhow. As is DISH, no one is giving them a free connection to the internet to send all this stuff. | |
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 |  jester121Premium join:2003-08-09 Lake Zurich, IL | It also depends on the FCC, shouldn't we be thanking Uncle Kev also?  | |
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 |  borkedCheese With That Whine?Premium join:2003-08-10 Kalamazoo, MI | No broadband connected needed. The programming is going to be downloaded via sat. to the DVR HD and then it will be viewed from the HD. Once fully rolled out, a n umber of programs will always be available and new ones rotated in at various times. -- It is much easier to suggest solutions when you don't know too much about the problem. Malcolm Forbes (1919-1990) | |
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 | | re what's the point in direcTV doing this when their DVR won't even output 1080p? | |
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 |  RR ConductorHappy 40th AmtrakPremium join:2002-04-02 Redwood Valley, CA kudos:1 | Re: re Dish didn't get much thunder, Directv will be broadcasting MPEG-4 by the end of this month, and that's less than 12 hours away  | |
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| Re: re said by RR Conductor:Dish didn't get much thunder, Directv will be broadcasting MPEG-4 by the end of this month, and that's less than 12 hours away Maybe to you they didn't! | |
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 |  |  borkedCheese With That Whine?Premium join:2003-08-10 Kalamazoo, MI | said by RR Conductor:Dish didn't get much thunder, Directv will be broadcasting MPEG-4 by the end of this month, and that's less than 12 hours away Dish has been broadcasting in MPEG4 for a couple years now. -- It is much easier to suggest solutions when you don't know too much about the problem. Malcolm Forbes (1919-1990) | |
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 |  |  | | said by RR Conductor:Dish didn't get much thunder, Directv will be broadcasting MPEG-4 by the end of this month, and that's less than 12 hours away they have about 5 MPEG-2 channels left. | |
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 DHRacerFire Survivor join:2000-10-10 Lake Arrowhead, CA | I don't get this How can DTV show something in 1080p? No receiver I've seen from them offers that output format to your TV (highest/best I've seen is 1080i). Is there a new receiver they have that does this? | |
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 DannyZGentoo FanboyPremium join:2003-01-29 | So which 1080p? said by »www.hdtvprimer.com/ISSUES/what_is_ATSC.html : What is 1080p? The term 1080p causes a lot of confusion because people are using it in conflicting ways: 1. The transmission formats 1080 24p and 1080 30p are sometimes called 1080p. But the term 1080p should never be used to refer to a transmission format.
2. If 1080p is to 1080i what 480p is to 480i then 1080p is a 60 frames per second monitor interface format. 1080 60p is becoming a common interface format. But since there are no 1080 60p sources, there is no need for it. (When a 24 frame source is converted to 1080i, no information is lost. A smart monitor can convert this 1080i into a perfect 1080 60p or 120p.)
3. When the maker of a digital display finds a way to improve upon 1080i he will usually say his display does 1080p. The improvement is often just a way to reduce flicker. The sets internally do 1080p but only accept 1080i at the interface.
If you want to be understood unambiguously, you should refrain from using the term 1080p. Instead use 1080p60, etc.
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1080p that has been mashed/converted/condensed in every which way to fit it in. | |
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 |  NOCManMacChatterPremium join:2004-09-30 Colorado Springs, CO | Re: Right.... I think the bitrate of 1080p60 is in the gigabits a second. | |
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 |  |  djrobx join:2000-05-31 Valencia, CA kudos:1 | Re: Right.... They're talking about offering movies, which are never 60fps. If they were talking about offering sporting events at 1080p60 (with the additional bandwidth required to do it properly), it might be a more intriguing claim. | |
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 sporkmedrop the crantini and move it, sisterPremium,MVM join:2000-07-01 Morristown, NJ | HD-Lite? I miss that guy that always gets in about a dozen posts about "HD Lite" on stories like this... -- with every mistake we must surely be learning | |
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 | | How much space does 1080p moives take up? How much space does 1080p moives take up? At least the direct tv boxes have a e-sata port on them.
Dish just has usb and on the dish web site they say the boxes max out at 1080i.
What is a discounted price $3.99 $4.99 $5.99? for 24H rent?
red box costs less for the same time and you get the full DVD. | |
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 |  djrobx join:2000-05-31 Valencia, CA kudos:1 1 edit | Re: How much space does 1080p moives take up? quote: How much space does 1080p moives take up? At least the direct tv boxes have a e-sata port on them.
Depends on the compression. But 1080p/24 is 20% less data than 1080i/60! | |
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 |  dawikle join:1999-10-02 Littleton, CO | This can be between 10GB and 15GB for the 1080p/24 VOD Movies. You don't need to make any adjustment to the Receiver. If your TV Supports 1080p/24 then the Movie will play in 1080p/24 if not then it will be down converted to match that of your TV. So the settings in the HDTV Setup on the receiver will have no affect on the movie. -- BetaTech | |
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From the "other" forums, it can be noted that Dish's ViP HD receivers are scheduled for a software upgrade starting tonight. I am glad Dish came through. I've been with them for a *long* time. I love it and I hope this speeds up competition and lower prices.
Official press release from Dish: »dish.client.shareholder.com/rele···D=325440 | |
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 |  VegasManAre We There Yet?Premium join:2002-11-17 Schaumburg, IL | Re: Sweet! said by arundc:From the "other" forums, it can be noted that Dish's ViP HD receivers are scheduled for a software upgrade starting tonight. I am glad Dish came through. I've been with them for a *long* time. I love it and I hope this speeds up competition and lower prices. Official press release from Dish: » dish.client.shareholder.com/rele···D=325440 The part that scares me is that if they roll out that update tonight will it work? Dish has been know to roll out updates that are less than up to par and have actually in some instances been more like a downgrade. -- In need of a Vegas vacation.
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 | | I will stay with Dish I have had Dish HD for 2 years-its better than anything else I have seen, in fact I have 2 HD receivers attached to 1080P sets so I am looking forward to seeing the new format. maybe Fios and Direct are just as good but their channel guide and event summaries suck compared to Dish. One button on the remote to do either quickly. Digital cable adds ads to the viewing and quality varies too much between channels. | |
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