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MPEG-4 DVR owners should see update soon....
(old news - 03:13PM Thursday Jul 31 2008)
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A few days ago, in competitive response to Verizon's NYC FiOSTV launch, DirecTV announced they'd be offering content in 1080p high definition. Not to be outdone, Dish Network today announced that 1080p VOD content will be activated and available on all MPEG-4 HD DVR receivers starting tomorrow, stealing DirecTV's thunder with the first 1080p offering in the industry. Dish says MPEG-4 capable DVR owners should see the update shortly, and Dish is offering users a discounted price for the 1080p version of the film "I Am Legend."

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Cool

Too bad its only VOD but its a start I just hope it isn't all unconverted
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Re: Cool

said by Chiyo See Profile :

Too bad its only VOD
The VOD content they have control over, the TV content they don't..... We'll have to wait till TV stations actually transmit in 1080p before we see that.

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Re: Cool

They both suck anyway who cares, and they are not cheaper than cable
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Re: Cool

said by Geminimind See Profile :

They both suck anyway who cares, and they are not cheaper than cable
said by Geminimind See Profile :

They both suck anyway who cares, and they are not cheaper than cable
WRONG.

I have the DishNetwork HD-only package for $29.99/mo + Cinemax HD (5 channels) for $0.01/mo, and DVR for $5/mo + locals in HD for $5/mo - total comes to about $45/mo with taxes. And this 'deal' sticks for the next 2 years.

No way Comcast (the cable company where I live) can beat that. The nearest package they have will cost me close to a $100/mo. And to include that they dont even have a HD-only package - I dont watch SD at all anymore.

Cable is WAY MORE EXPENSIVE.
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Re: Cool

Hmm for me to get tv from dish network it would cost me over 100 bucks a month just like comcast. I have 4 tv's and two of them are hooked up to dvrs Dont really care about movie channels because they suck too. But for me to hook up 4 tv's not all hd just 2 it would cost me over 100 bucks I went to the website and checked.

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said by sat See Profile :

said by Geminimind See Profile :

They both suck anyway who cares, and they are not cheaper than cable
said by Geminimind See Profile :

They both suck anyway who cares, and they are not cheaper than cable
WRONG.

I have the DishNetwork HD-only package for $29.99/mo + Cinemax HD (5 channels) for $0.01/mo, and DVR for $5/mo + locals in HD for $5/mo - total comes to about $45/mo with taxes. And this 'deal' sticks for the next 2 years.

No way Comcast (the cable company where I live) can beat that. The nearest package they have will cost me close to a $100/mo. And to include that they dont even have a HD-only package - I dont watch SD at all anymore.

Cable is WAY MORE EXPENSIVE.
Cox HD channels are free. Not sure about Comcrap, er, Comcast!
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said by sat See Profile :

said by Geminimind See Profile :

They both suck anyway who cares, and they are not cheaper than cable
said by Geminimind See Profile :

They both suck anyway who cares, and they are not cheaper than cable
WRONG.

I have the DishNetwork HD-only package for $29.99/mo + Cinemax HD (5 channels) for $0.01/mo, and DVR for $5/mo + locals in HD for $5/mo - total comes to about $45/mo with taxes. And this 'deal' sticks for the next 2 years.

No way Comcast (the cable company where I live) can beat that. The nearest package they have will cost me close to a $100/mo. And to include that they dont even have a HD-only package - I dont watch SD at all anymore.

Cable is WAY MORE EXPENSIVE.
dish makes you pay more a month for each box after the first one. Then direct TV and some cable systems.

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Re: Cool

everyone has a different setup but it would cost me about the same.

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Don't make generic comments based off your one example of yourself - TW cable in my area has ALWAYS been about $20 more than sat and in most places cable is more expensive and generally has more price increases that sat.

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I'll believe it when I see the data

said by Dish Network :
Starting August 1, Warner Bros. Pictures' blockbuster "I Am Legend" starring Will Smith will be available in 1080p resolution -- same as
Blu-ray(R) Disc quality -- on DISH Network's VOD service, DISH On Demand,
at a discounted price. Subscribers with MPEG-4 HD DVRs may order the movie
on DISH Network Channel 501.
So we're to expect Blu-Ray quality? Sorry, I don't believe it. Of course it wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong but I will not believe it until I see actual bitrate (and other) data.

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Re: I'll believe it when I see the data

wel;l the bit rate for that movie is in the low 20's

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said by Dogfather See Profile :

said by Dish Network :
Starting August 1, Warner Bros. Pictures' blockbuster "I Am Legend" starring Will Smith will be available in 1080p resolution -- same as
Blu-ray(R) Disc quality -- on DISH Network's VOD service, DISH On Demand,
at a discounted price. Subscribers with MPEG-4 HD DVRs may order the movie
on DISH Network Channel 501.
So we're to expect Blu-Ray quality? Sorry, I don't believe it. Of course it wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong but I will not believe it until I see actual bitrate (and other) data.
Additionally, I'm curious as to whether that extends to audio as well. I can't imagine that they would also provide Dolby True HD and DTS-HD+MA. At least not without new STBs that could decode and/or bitstream these formats. It would sure be cool if they did though
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Total marketing BS

Can I watch this on a cloudy day?

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Re: Total marketing BS

said by curls310 See Profile :

Can I watch this on a cloudy day?
What cable company do you work for?

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Re: Total marketing BS

It's a Verizonite.

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A cloudy day affecting satellite speaks badly on the installer that did the job, not so much the dish hardware involved.

With my grandparents having had one of those big C-band sat dishes in their yard, I should know. When they upgraded to digital satellite, the installer "cocked it up" the first time around and it did get that bad, where the C-band was clear. A repair install later, and the thing was fine even in the heavy rains spawned from more than a few tropical storms and/or hurricanes.

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Re: Total marketing BS

I think my DSL goes out from storms about as much as my Dish Network signal did.
GREAT idea not deploying FTTH, AT&T

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1080P comes over your broadband connection ....

.... and not the satellite. 1080P is for their VOD component.

So all their bragging depends on the cable companies and telco to deliver their hot new product for them.
»www.dishnetwork.com/content/what···ex.shtml

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Re: 1080P comes over your broadband connection ....

The Telcos other than Verizon where there's FiOS rely on the satellite companies. Because of that, they'd obviously not want to tick off their bundled Satellite TV customers by capping their VOD. But it is possible to do 1080p over a satellite. We'll just have to see what Dish can cough up.

And for anyone who doesn't think Dish's DVR/HD receivers can do 1080p, guess again. My family relatives have their latest box, and it is delivering their TV 1080p via HDMI. It even shows up in a setting in the HDMI setup in the receiver which it is set for.

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Re: 1080P comes over your broadband connection ....

said by Smith6612 See Profile :

And for anyone who doesn't think Dish's DVR/HD receivers can do 1080p, guess again. My family relatives have their latest box, and it is delivering their TV 1080p via HDMI. It even shows up in a setting in the HDMI setup in the receiver which it is set for.
I have two ViP722s and in the HDTV setup I only see it go as high as 1080i. I'm pretty certain the 722 is their latest box but I don't see any option to output 1080p and my tv reports that it's receiving 1080i. Not saying I don't believe you (I actually do), but if there is a way for me to enable 1080p, I'd like to know.

Yes, my tv supports 1080p.. heh.

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Re: 1080P comes over your broadband connection ....

said by sousademiami See Profile :

And since I'm paying for that connection, it's my money that pays for it anyhow.
As is DISH, no one is giving them a free connection to the internet to send all this stuff.
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It also depends on the FCC, shouldn't we be thanking Uncle Kev also?

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No broadband connected needed. The programming is going to be downloaded via sat. to the DVR HD and then it will be viewed from the HD. Once fully rolled out, a n umber of programs will always be available and new ones rotated in at various times.
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re

what's the point in direcTV doing this when their DVR won't even output 1080p?

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Re: re

Dish didn't get much thunder, Directv will be broadcasting MPEG-4 by the end of this month, and that's less than 12 hours away

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Re: re

said by RR Conductor See Profile :

Dish didn't get much thunder, Directv will be broadcasting MPEG-4 by the end of this month, and that's less than 12 hours away
Maybe to you they didn't!

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Re: re

said by guhuna See Profile :

said by RR Conductor See Profile :

Dish didn't get much thunder, Directv will be broadcasting MPEG-4 by the end of this month, and that's less than 12 hours away
Maybe to you they didn't!
I'm still reeling from that reply, whoa, I may never recover...

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said by RR Conductor See Profile :

Dish didn't get much thunder, Directv will be broadcasting MPEG-4 by the end of this month, and that's less than 12 hours away
Dish has been broadcasting in MPEG4 for a couple years now.
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said by RR Conductor See Profile :

Dish didn't get much thunder, Directv will be broadcasting MPEG-4 by the end of this month, and that's less than 12 hours away
they have about 5 MPEG-2 channels left.
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They wouldn't be announcing it if that were true. Obviously it does support 1080p, just doesn't have it listed as supported because they didn't previously provide it. If the chips in the DVR are capable then all they needed was to update the software to handle it and I bet most of the IC's used in production support 1080p even if the provider doesn't implement the support.

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Re: re

And the specs for the Broadcom chips in the DirecTV DVRs indicate that they are capable of 1080p24

Of course, as TKJunkMail See Profile pointed out, you'd better have a nice fat broadband pipe with no caps or restraints to download that sucka....

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At last !

Good old fashion competition !!!!

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I don't get this

How can DTV show something in 1080p? No receiver I've seen from them offers that output format to your TV (highest/best I've seen is 1080i). Is there a new receiver they have that does this?

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Re: I don't get this

n/m. not only am i asking about the wrong company here but TK Junkmail already answered this.

(though I can assume DTV is doing what Dish is going to do to offer this - broadband delivery. So does this require a ethernet connection to your receiver? Is this new?)

And I'm at work so I'm not logged into to edit my own post...
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So which 1080p?

said by »www.hdtvprimer.com/ISSUES/what_is_ATSC.html :
What is 1080p?
The term 1080p causes a lot of confusion because people are using it in conflicting ways:
1. The transmission formats 1080 24p and 1080 30p are sometimes called 1080p. But the term 1080p should never be used to refer to a transmission format.

2. If 1080p is to 1080i what 480p is to 480i then 1080p is a 60 frames per second monitor interface format. 1080 60p is becoming a common interface format. But since there are no 1080 60p sources, there is no need for it. (When a 24 frame source is converted to 1080i, no information is lost. A smart monitor can convert this 1080i into a perfect 1080 60p or 120p.)

3. When the maker of a digital display finds a way to improve upon 1080i he will usually say his display does 1080p. The improvement is often just a way to reduce flicker. The sets internally do 1080p but only accept 1080i at the interface.

If you want to be understood unambiguously, you should refrain from using the term 1080p. Instead use 1080p60, etc.
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Re: So which 1080p?

Film based material like I Am Legend (and most non-reality primetime shows, for that matter) is 24fps. So that means it's 1080p24.

That snippet you posted is an excellent summary. DTV and Dish are trying to make it sound like they're doing something groundbreaking. Really, 1080p24 requires less bandwidth than 1080i60, because there is no frame duplicating going on. The set top will do that.

So, transmitting their VOD in 1080p format is just what's most efficient.

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Right....

Oh I'm sure it will be a true 1080p picture... right.

1080p that has been mashed/converted/condensed in every which way to fit it in.

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Re: Right....

I think the bitrate of 1080p60 is in the gigabits a second.

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Re: Right....

They're talking about offering movies, which are never 60fps. If they were talking about offering sporting events at 1080p60 (with the additional bandwidth required to do it properly), it might be a more intriguing claim.

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HD-Lite?

I miss that guy that always gets in about a dozen posts about "HD Lite" on stories like this...
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How much space does 1080p moives take up?

How much space does 1080p moives take up?
At least the direct tv boxes have a e-sata port on them.

Dish just has usb and on the dish web site they say the boxes max out at 1080i.

What is a discounted price $3.99 $4.99 $5.99? for 24H rent?

red box costs less for the same time and you get the full DVD.

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Re: How much space does 1080p moives take up?

quote:
How much space does 1080p moives take up?
At least the direct tv boxes have a e-sata port on them.
Depends on the compression. But 1080p/24 is 20% less data than 1080i/60!
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This can be between 10GB and 15GB for the 1080p/24 VOD Movies. You don't need to make any adjustment to the Receiver. If your TV Supports 1080p/24 then the Movie will play in 1080p/24 if not then it will be down converted to match that of your TV. So the settings in the HDTV Setup on the receiver will have no affect on the movie.
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Sweet!

From the "other" forums, it can be noted that Dish's ViP HD receivers are scheduled for a software upgrade starting tonight. I am glad Dish came through. I've been with them for a *long* time. I love it and I hope this speeds up competition and lower prices.

Official press release from Dish:
»dish.client.shareholder.com/rele···D=325440

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Re: Sweet!

said by arundc See Profile :

From the "other" forums, it can be noted that Dish's ViP HD receivers are scheduled for a software upgrade starting tonight. I am glad Dish came through. I've been with them for a *long* time. I love it and I hope this speeds up competition and lower prices.

Official press release from Dish:
»dish.client.shareholder.com/rele···D=325440
The part that scares me is that if they roll out that update tonight will it work? Dish has been know to roll out updates that are less than up to par and have actually in some instances been more like a downgrade.
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I will stay with Dish

I have had Dish HD for 2 years-its better than anything else I have seen, in fact I have 2 HD receivers attached to 1080P sets so I am looking forward to seeing the new format. maybe Fios and Direct are just as good but their channel guide and event summaries suck compared to Dish. One button on the remote to do either quickly. Digital cable adds ads to the viewing and quality varies too much between channels.
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wow

This shows just about BAD the cable/sat providers are dragging their feet in providing true HD content.
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