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Re: SpectrumI would imagine it uses nTelos' spectrum | |
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Red777
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2014-Jul-17 6:23 pm
Re: SpectrumNTLS owns the BRS spectrum in this footprint (which SPrint largely owns in the rest of the major markets in the US). Separately Sprint agreed to use the EBS spectrum and combine it on Ntelos network (along withthe 800mhz, and 1.9ghz) to offer Sprint Spark tri-band LTE service on Ntelos' network in this region.
Sprint has a similar trial with Dish using Sprint's 2.6ghz in Texas fro fixed wireless that is following/behind this Ntelos trial deployment. | |
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Is there a cap?It does not mention cap ? | |
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|  karpodiemHail to The Victors
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join:2008-05-20
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Re: Is there a cap?Yep, glaring omission. Useless if it's less than 100GB, it's worthless (giving them the benefit of the doubt in that their cost per GB for delivery is still 3x higher than a cable deployment, so 1/3 the size of Comcast's 300GB cap) | |
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Purposely omitted from the press release as it is most likely only 5 GB. | |
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Re: Is there a cap?said by biochemistry:Purposely omitted from the press release as it most likely only 5 GB. It looks like the caps are 5, 10 and 15 GB for $40, $50 and $70 a month. Download speed is 5mbs for the 5GB $40 a month plan and 10mbs for the other two plans. Well it looks like dish sure beats Comcast's blast 105 for $30 a month uncapped. LOL | |
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2014-Jul-17 9:52 am
Re: Is there a cap?Comcasts 105 Mbps is capped depending on the market. | |
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2014-Jul-17 10:09 am
Re: Is there a cap?said by crk2h:Comcasts 105 Mbps is capped depending on the market. Yes I know that, but it's a lot higher than 5, 10 or 15GB. | |
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rocky46 to crk2h
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2014-Jul-17 12:03 pm
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Comcast is not capping in Virginia at this time. | |
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to why60loss
said by why60loss:said by biochemistry:Purposely omitted from the press release as it most likely only 5 GB. It looks like the caps are 5, 10 and 15 GB for $40, $50 and $70 a month. Download speed is 5mbs for the 5GB $40 a month plan and 10mbs for the other two plans. Well it looks like dish sure beats Comcast's blast 105 for $30 a month uncapped. LOL Where did you get that information? The release specifically says 10mbps for $30 a month, so I'm confused. | |
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2014-Jul-17 10:26 am
Re: Is there a cap?said by mixdup:said by why60loss:said by biochemistry:Purposely omitted from the press release as it most likely only 5 GB. It looks like the caps are 5, 10 and 15 GB for $40, $50 and $70 a month. Download speed is 5mbs for the 5GB $40 a month plan and 10mbs for the other two plans. Well it looks like dish sure beats Comcast's blast 105 for $30 a month uncapped. LOL Where did you get that information? The release specifically says 10mbps for $30 a month, so I'm confused. Link: » www.dish.com/entertainme ··· nternet/There are other details not listed here like you also get 5, 10 or 15GB to use from 2am to 8am called "bonus data". | |
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2014-Jul-17 10:42 am
Re: Is there a cap?That is for DishNet satellite internet, not the LTE service. | |
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why60loss
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2014-Jul-17 12:00 pm
Re: Is there a cap?said by UHF:That is for DishNet satellite internet, not the LTE service. Your right, my mistake. The web site says you have to call for details on the LTE service. The $30 a month price is only for those with Dish TV service right now. If the LTE service really doesn't have a hard cap then it would beat TWC standard internet and overall be a good deal for those who could only have 1mbs DSL. (Yep it's that or Comcast in my area now.) | |
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That is their satellite internet which is actually Hughesnet. | |
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Red777
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2014-Jul-17 6:25 pm
Re: Is there a cap?» www.dish.com/entertainme ··· ntelos/?use this link to get the special 800# this is going to kill in rural markets against DSL and small cable systems. | |
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15 GB for $70 month? That's actually really competitive.
If they offer this in my area I might ditch the AT&T ($80 for 10 GB, $15/GB overage)for this. Still holding onto the grandfathered Sprint 3G for things like patches, Netflix, and big downloads, and also hoping that when they make the tower 4G our 3G backhaul issues (300 kbps speeds at certain times during the day) will disappear.
Do you know how much overages are on the Dish LTE? | |
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2014-Jul-17 12:03 pm
to why60loss
Still better than up here in canada where the best deal on fixed mobile is 110$ for 15gb. But, yeah, its still way too pricey for way too small a cap. | |
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wrong service - that is satellite internet service | |
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|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they come
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to Hawkeye61
pretty sure there will be FAP as it is with all satellite internet. | |
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2014-Jul-17 11:02 am
Re: Is there a cap?said by dvd536:pretty sure there will be FAP as it is with all satellite internet. this isn't satellite it's LTE. | |
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to Hawkeye61
Well, the original trial was for 20-50mbps, and now it's down to 10. The original trial also used Alcatel-Lucent equipment instead of these "BandRich" ones. Of course looking back at the other trials I don't see any mentions of caps, but maybe since they scaled back the speeds, the caps either don't exist (doubtful) or were increased. Someone probably should just call the 1800 number and see what the sales reps say. | |
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|  maartenaElmo
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to Hawkeye61
If its wireless in any shape or form (wifi based, lte based, satellite based, whatever) there is ALWAYS a cap. I don't know if there are "unlimited" hours though, with many satellite providers you get 4 hours (in the middle of the night) unlimited a day, so you can schedule downloads. | |
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2014-Jul-17 6:17 pm
Re: Is there a cap?actually not true. function of capacity and service level. NTLS has all the 2.6ghz BRS spectrum in this footprint (i.e. Sprint/Clearwire only has the EBS spectrum that Clearwire rolled up) plus DISH has some AWS but NTLS has a lot. capacity is determined by the width of the carrier band deployed and number of towers to serve the area and number of customer/usage. there are 120Mhz of spectrum between the BRS/EBS bands with BRS the larger component of the band - I forget how much. That is a lot of pipe even before using any of DISH's spectrum | |
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join:2003-06-28
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mixdup
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2014-Jul-17 9:31 pm
Re: Is there a cap?said by Red777 :actually not true. function of capacity and service level. NTLS has all the 2.6ghz BRS spectrum in this footprint (i.e. Sprint/Clearwire only has the EBS spectrum that Clearwire rolled up) plus DISH has some AWS but NTLS has a lot. capacity is determined by the width of the carrier band deployed and number of towers to serve the area and number of customer/usage. there are 120Mhz of spectrum between the BRS/EBS bands with BRS the larger component of the band - I forget how much. That is a lot of pipe even before using any of DISH's spectrum Not only that, but with fixed systems vs. a cell phone, you can capacity plan per tower very well, and with MIMO/beamforming/directional antennas you can get spotbeam type bandwidth savings out of a single tower as well. | |
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2014-Jul-17 8:36 am
2.5Ghz nTelos LTE.. only select packages..That pretty much sum's it up.. Of course, the devil is in the details.
And what get's deployed to my area will be inevitably different/priced higher.
For now, I'll stick with my monthly 5GB of 4G access and limited my surfing to that.
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IF there is no capIt's a good option if you have no other wired options. | |
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elray
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2014-Jul-17 10:53 am
Re: IF there is no capIf there is no cap or throttling, the service will be quickly consumed, oversubscribed, overwhelmed and abused, leading to ...
caps and throttling. | |
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Re: IF there is no capOversubscribed is a issue of insufficient build out. Not of a bad product. | |
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78036364 (banned)
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2014-Jul-17 11:03 am
Re: IF there is no capyes because companies can just throw up more towers. It's not like they have to go through some long onerous application process and are often met by NIMBY complainers | |
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Re: IF there is no capIf they don't want to build more towers than they should limit the number of subscribers.
It's simple math. Before the shareholders chime in anyway. | |
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2014-Jul-17 12:03 pm
Only bundled with Dish service ?Hopefully Ntelos will offer this as a standalone service as well. If they restrict it to Dish customers that severely limits the number of interested people. Perhaps in this phase of the rollout that's a good thing.
Lets hope the caps, if any, are reasonable. If they price it like cellular data they lose their advantage. | |
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join:2008-09-23
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Just called them, lady said no capJust called them. Asked multiple times. Lady said 10mbs speed with no cap and I could watch all the netflix I want. I confirmed again and she said no cap. Without being a dish customer its an extra $10, plus extra $10 to rent modem - but $50/month for unlimited LTE isn't bad. Still very skeptical.... | |
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ahhhh Exciting!!!I have long dreamed of a day that I could drop CenturyLink for good! That day may be coming! AHHHHHHH sooooooo exciting! Im not sure you readers out there that dont have only one option and its shit really understand what this means for us who have to pay for service because we have to have a connection when we hate dealing with the company sooo much. | |
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Re: ahhhh Exciting!!!said by xthepeoplesx:I have long dreamed of a day that I could drop CenturyLink for good! That day may be coming! AHHHHHHH sooooooo exciting! Im not sure you readers out there that dont have only one option and its shit really understand what this means for us who have to pay for service because we have to have a connection when we hate dealing with the company sooo much. I feel your pain on Century link. Hope Dish will bring this uncapped LTE service to your area soon. | |
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I hope you get competition soon, but CenturyLink has been nothing but great to me in both Ohio and Arizona, sure the upload speeds on ADSL2 are a little lower but that's to be expected on ADSL systems. They've always given me what was promised for a reasonable price (nothing more i can say, but i'm okay with that going in) | |
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Other fixed wireless broadband trialsOther fixed LTE wireless broadband trials have been/will be underway around the U.S.: » Sprint, Dish to Trial Fixed LTE Residential ServiceAlso another article on this: Dish, nTelos expand fixed mobile broadband serviceBy Ben Munson, Wireless Week, July 16, 2014 » www.wirelessweek.com/new ··· -serviceEDIT: There is also the existing network of non-LTE, fixed wireless ISPs (WISPs) to consider, but most of those do have data caps on their services: Meet WISP, the wireless future of Internet serviceBy Eric Geier, PCWorld - December 2, 2013 » www.pcworld.com/article/ ··· ice.html | |
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2014-Jul-17 2:00 pm
They Can't Cap ItIf you are a Dish customer 10mb is enough to stream their on demand etc - well if you actually get that but you would be using their service every time you used on demand so any cap would quickly cause tremendous customer dissatisfaction. | |
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elray
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2014-Jul-17 6:26 pm
Re: They Can't Cap Itsaid by jtel:If you are a Dish customer 10mb is enough to stream their on demand etc - well if you actually get that but you would be using their service every time you used on demand so any cap would quickly cause tremendous customer dissatisfaction. Given that their satellite service has peak and super-offpeak buckets, it is reasonable to expect that the fixed-LTE service will be at least as generous. At $30/month, it is quite attractive for those with no wired options. And they could always exempt their own streams from the cap. | |
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2014-Jul-17 4:05 pm
Fixed Wireless is Nothing New11 years ago I started working for www.b2xonline.com. The "LTE" buzzword wasn't included, and the speeds were nowhere near 10Mbps. But it was better than dial-up, satellite, or DSL. | |
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