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| | Top 120 plus is more then 5 120 plus jumped 10 bucks! Probably due to sports. | |
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|  MuDvAyNePremium
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| Re: Top 120 plus is more then 5 said by nonamesleft:120 plus jumped 10 bucks! Probably due to sports.
What sports? Dish doesn't carry any RSN in NY. What a joke of a company.
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| Re: Top 120 plus is more then 5 said by MuDvAyNe:said by nonamesleft:120 plus jumped 10 bucks! Probably due to sports.
What sports? Dish doesn't carry any RSN in NY. What a joke of a company. I don't know, I don't watch that crap. It's probably because of those 26 espn's. | |
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Saint Clair Shores, MI | Re: Top 120 plus is more then 5 said by nonamesleft:said by MuDvAyNe:said by nonamesleft:120 plus jumped 10 bucks! Probably due to sports.
What sports? Dish doesn't carry any RSN in NY. What a joke of a company. I don't know, I don't watch that crap. It's probably because of those 26 espn's. Or all those "wonder bra" channels. I hear the show, "mom is 53 but looks 13" is back for a 2nd season.  | |
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decifal
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Bon Aqua, TN
kudos:1 | ever Ever wonder where it will all stop? Stuff can't seriously just keep increasing.. I'm getting ready to just hammer the library for entertainment if things keep on this trend man... | |
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|  n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY | Re: ever said by decifal:Ever wonder where it will all stop? Stuff can't seriously just keep increasing.. It will keep increasing until people, in significant numbers, start being serious and cutting the cord. In the meantime, I have not problem with the industry trying to extract as much money from customers as possible. That is the way the market works. If you do not like the price of something, then don't buy it. Eventually the supplier will have to lower prices or go out of business. Obviously there is still plenty of room to raise prices since customers are still paying.
Frankly, nobody "needs" subscription television. They "want" it. I remember an old saying that went along the lines; invent something people need and you will make a decent living. Invent something people want and you will have riches beyond your dreams.
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| | | In reality, constant price hikes across the board are only going to help people realize how easy and efficient piracy is. | |
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Saint Clair Shores, MI | Re: ever Bingo!  | |
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| said by aciddrink:In reality, constant price hikes across the board are only going to help people realize how easy and efficient piracy is.
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|  SnakeoilIgnore Button. The coward's feature.Premium
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| said by decifal:Ever wonder where it will all stop? Stuff can't seriously just keep increasing.. I'm getting ready to just hammer the library for entertainment if things keep on this trend man...
Turn down your pay raise. Employees like pay raises. Where do companies get the extra money for pay raises? Through price hikes.
Also consider Dish had to settle with AMC, and Pay what ever they paid Fox.
Which also leads to a price hike.
It's a never ending cycle.
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| Re: ever How many employees these days get automatic 5-6% pay raises per year? How many employees can unilaterally decide raise their own pay? Not many these days... Groups of employees that have such pay arrangements are considered by the right wing of this country to be parasites and have been targeted for elimination. However, when a corporation does the same thing its lassie fair capitalism at its finest. | |
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| Re: ever Exactly.
What we are seeing here is UNfettered GREED, nothing else.
Not only that I agree with the other poster that mentioned that for the price of pay tv there is almost NOTHING worthwhile on it for the money anymore. Yet the prices keep going up, while the programming quality keeps going down, and the number of ads is increasing during the program time.
I've had enough a couple of years ago and cut the cord.
Now my internet provider is trying to goose me on my internet cost. Even though I was happy with a lower speed tier they won't offer it anymore so they expect me to pay higher prices for higher speeds I don't want or NEED.
Next up I'll be getting rid of my internet subscription as well.
These companies think people are so addicted to pay tv and internet that they will empty their pockets to keep it.
I'll be happy to prove them wrong, when the prices get unreasonable I walk. | |
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | Re: ever said by horseathalt7:What we are seeing here is UNfettered GREED, nothing else. Welcome to capitalism, the free market, human nature...take your pick.
Consumer goods and services in a free market society that is not under a monopoly will naturally find a balance between what companies need to charge to cover their costs and make a profit, and what consumers are willing to pay.
I'll be happy to prove them wrong, when the prices get unreasonable I walk. | |
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join:2000-07-19
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kudos:1 | I would hope that the employee is evaluated and if determined to be eligible for any kind of raise that it would be justified as the employee's work and experience should be more valuable to the company. If the employee is not more efficient at what they do or if they cannot improve the results for the company, changes should be made, but a pay raise should not be one of them.
Blame the ridiculous spending by our government that is creating a crazy rate of inflation most of our salaries cannot hope to keep pace with in the long run. There are plenty of sacrifices that I am willing to make, but it starts with a cornucopia of programs that should never have been funded in the first place. A little short-sighted relief is going to ruin this economy for good. | |
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| | | The first people to complain about price increases are the ones screaming at the providers to NOT DROP CHANNELS when theres a carriage fee dispute. | |
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| | | | Re: ever said by ITALIAN926:The first people to complain about price increases are the ones screaming at the providers to NOT DROP CHANNELS when theres a carriage fee dispute.
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1 edit | said by ITALIAN926:The first people to complain about price increases are the ones screaming at the providers to NOT DROP CHANNELS when theres a carriage fee dispute.
I would rather drop all but a few channels that I actually watch thank you very much.. Could careless for opras crappy programming, all of the espns, bet, vh1 mtv1 and 2 and many more... But because some of "you" want them we all have to have em..
See how that blame game works?
Its not like have alot of options to chose from.. directv, or dish for the most of us... Whoopie, wow at the competition | |
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| tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI | On that note.. I did some shopping around. Seems it's not the content that drives up the price, it's the equipment. They have made it where people have to have thier equipment to watch anything so they keep raising the price of DVR's, multi room service, service agreements, blah blah blah. Doesn't matter if it's Cable or Sat. They ALL do it. | |
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| | | | Re: ever Eventually, they'll have to just whitelist an IP address for premium 'channels' or services and then get rid of the boxes. This will happen about the same time that all TV's can connect to NetFlix right out of the box just by entering your account info.  | |
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| | Prices Hikes And they all don't want to believe people 'cutting the cord' and going Internet Only OR they complain people are doing that. Well people, you are pushing people to that, not everyone can afford a $200/month Internet/TV bill. | |
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Santa Monica, CA | Re: Prices Hikes said by sphinxguy18:And they all don't want to believe people 'cutting the cord' and going Internet Only OR they complain people are doing that. Well people, you are pushing people to that, not everyone can afford a $200/month Internet/TV bill.
It isn't disbelief, it is cold data. They're well aware of how many are, or are not, subscribing, and what the trend is.
The bulk of American households are not going to cord-cut, nor are they paying $200/month, but they actually could afford to. Those who truly "can't", do have lower-cost options available.
People will complain, but they won't change their habits.
Pay-TV fills a void. | |
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join:2003-01-30
Riverview, FL
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| Well.... You can blame it on the broadcasters not the cable/satellite industry. If you look at networks like Time Warner Sports Net which request on average 4 dollars per subscriber, PAC12 etc. Also look at the local broadcasters renewing contracts with cable/satellite providers with 300% price increases.
The company is not going to just eat this in profits and must pass this on to consumers.
You need to complain to your elected officials to stop the broadcasters stronghold on the industry, offer alacarte options and not bundle a bunch of crappy low rated channels together with huge price increases. | |
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| cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | Re: Well.... said by kdwycha:You can blame it on the broadcasters not the cable/satellite industry. And why do the broadcasters need the money? Oh that's right, to produce the content that people (granted not every subscriber in every case) demand. It's a never ending cycle. | |
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join:2012-01-26
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kudos:2 | Someone has to pay for AMC Joy your 30 hours of decent programming a year. | |
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| kdwycha
join:2003-01-30
Riverview, FL Reviews:
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| Re: Someone has to pay for AMC said by skeechan:Joy your 30 hours of decent programming a year.
said by skeechan:Joy your 30 hours of decent programming a year.
Yeah but you cant just purchase AMC because AMC Networks requires providers to buy the bundle which include AMC, IFC, Sundance, and WE. I mean how many reruns of Roseanne can one watch, seems that is on WE 24/7. Pointless. | |
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| |  linicxCaveat EmptorPremium
join:2002-12-03
United State
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| Re: Someone has to pay for AMC I remember when I had the Big Dish. Bundles or ala carte was offered. ESPN was $2, CNN $1. I took a bundle plus all HBO channels for $25/mo. The OTA channels included news from Germany, music from the Caribbean and Canadian TV. If Dish did this they would make a ton of money. I would much rather pay for what I watch rather than for shorter view time and piggy back infomercials. I'll probably drop it rather than considereing expanding it.
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| | | amungusPremium
join:2004-11-26
America | Re: Someone has to pay for AMC Believe it or not, Charlie (CEO of Dish/Echostar) got his start selling big dishes "back in the day."
Even with all the "choice" on Dish, they can only un-bundle some things. They would absolutely offer more choice if they could. | |
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| | | | linicxCaveat EmptorPremium
join:2002-12-03
United State Reviews:
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| Re: Someone has to pay for AMC I don't see anything unbundled I want. The offer some odd bundles with channels like RFD, but not much else. Plus they shuffle channels too much. Most of the stuff I like is in the Top Tier; it is not worth it! Dish and Direct TV are both pricing themselves out of business.
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| | | SnakeoilIgnore Button. The coward's feature.Premium
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Mentor, OH
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| said by linicx:I remember when I had the Big Dish. Bundles or ala carte was offered. ESPN was $2, CNN $1. I took a bundle plus all HBO channels for $25/mo. The OTA channels included news from Germany, music from the Caribbean and Canadian TV. If Dish did this they would make a ton of money. I would much rather pay for what I watch rather than for shorter view time and piggy back infomercials. I'll probably drop it rather than considering expanding it.
Much of the limited stuff dish/any provider offers is because of deals with content providers and the government.
I recall from when I first joined Dish, you could select what network feeds you wanted. East, central, or west coat. We'd go east and west. That way we could VCR shows that had time conflicts in one region.
Then the local affiliates complained, as well as local businesses, that they were being cut out of loop. Because At the time, Dish only carried the "Network feeds, and not the local stations.
So Dish had to kill the regional feeds, and went to local feeds. So the local affiliates wouldn't miss out on advertising dollars, and local businesses could market to the local viewers.
I remember going to my in-laws house. He had a big satellite dish. It was interesting to watch different stations from all over the world. I was surprised to see how prudish American TV actually is, when compared to Italian, French, or Japanese programing. And we are supposed to be "Land of the free"
I would love to have a system like that, but on a mini-dish. But then that is where the internet comes in.
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Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | Re: Someone has to pay for AMC said by Snakeoil:I remember going to my in-laws house. He had a big satellite dish. It was interesting to watch different stations from all over the world. I was surprised to see how prudish American TV actually is, when compared to Italian, French, or Japanese programing. And we are supposed to be "Land of the free" Land of the free, but also founded by religious prudes. | |
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kudos:2 | I don't know what Japanese programming you are seeing, but major network programming (NHK, Fuji, TVA, etc) is extraordinarily prudish.
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| | | | | | | Re: Someone has to pay for AMC All in the eye of the beholder. Some things that US people consider wild, Japanese consider normal, and vice versa. There's a lot of stuff that is heavily censored when Japanese anime is exported to the USA for example. | |
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| | | cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | said by linicx:I remember when I had the Big Dish. Bundles or ala carte was offered. ESPN was $2, CNN $1. I took a bundle plus all HBO channels for $25/mo. And gas was $.25 a gallon, a loaf a bread was $.05, you walked to school barefoot, in the snow, uphill both directions and you liked it.
Comparing BUD programming prices from yesteryear to today's prices is comparing apples to oranges. | |
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| | | | skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium
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kudos:2 | Re: Someone has to pay for AMC Yes but the school was on a dock and started at high tide and ended at low tide.
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| | skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium
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kudos:2 | It's like USA becoming the NCIS rerun channel. | |
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| linicxCaveat EmptorPremium
join:2002-12-03
United State | BTW, my kids live in LA and SoCal. They didn't think a $100 ea for a breakfast buffet, or a $1000 for dinner was a big deal.
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| | Dish I have Verzion FIOS and always tempted to go DISH just to try it out. The prices scare me away though. | |
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| | Dish, tell us the story again about how you fought AMC to keep prices low.
Lip service lie. | |
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join:2001-06-01
Scotch Plains, NJ
kudos:3 | Why does it suddenly cost $1 more to rent a DVR that is already in your house? It's not like the cost of that DVR went up. | |
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|  SarickIt's Only LogicalPremium
join:2003-06-03
USA | Re: I don't understand I always thought this was pure ripoff. You pay for the channels, You RENT the receiver player, You pay insurance on the rented receiver. they add a DVR fee on top of that?
The DVR fee is is a scam because the hardware DVR cost them nothing extra after initial development cost and installation. We pay for the TV guide already so them tacking on extra fees here shows they nickle and dime customers just like the commercials they make with Dish vs Direct TV in them.
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USA | What about their new LTE network. Sounds to me like they're looking to skim money off DISH customers to build their expensive LTE network. The FCC agreement gave them a limited time to set it up so they need the money NOW.
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join:2001-08-31
Byron, GA | Some of you have to understand the channels that you watch if any of them FOX CNN ETC want a increase through dish network/Directv for them to carry it this is passed on to you.
So when will the Consumers say enough is Enough? they will never do this you could pay $120 them it goes to $200? $300 will you have enough then i doubt it. | |
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| Re: Consumers dont learn. said by acid343211:Some of you have to understand the channels that you watch if any of them FOX CNN ETC want a increase through dish network/Directv for them to carry it this is passed on to you.
So when will the Consumers say enough is Enough? they will never do this you could pay $120 them it goes to $200? $300 will you have enough then i doubt it.
I don't know about anyone else, but I am dumping pay tv when I get my antenna. | |
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Byron, GA | Re: Consumers dont learn. said by nonamesleft:said by acid343211:Some of you have to understand the channels that you watch if any of them FOX CNN ETC want a increase through dish network/Directv for them to carry it this is passed on to you.
So when will the Consumers say enough is Enough? they will never do this you could pay $120 them it goes to $200? $300 will you have enough then i doubt it.
I don't know about anyone else, but I am dumping pay tv when I get my antenna. I will be doing this am tired of them doing this to me that money will go back in my pocket.
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| Re: Consumers dont learn. I already dumped the pay tv, most of which is crappy and cluttered with a huge amount of ad time, that makes the rare quality programs nearly unwatchable w/o a dvr which also costs you to rent.
I get OTA and surprisingly some of the PBS offerings are very good with NO advertising. I don't pay a red cent either.
Next up...the internet...If my provider doesn't deal I am cutting that cord as well. They are getting extremely greedy, brazen and arrogant with their price increases and limited speed tier choices.
I won't be paying more so that Charter's CEO Mr. Rutledge can have himself "helicoptered" around the NYC area. | |
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Byron, GA | Re: Consumers dont learn. said by horseathalt7:I already dumped the pay tv, most of which is crappy and cluttered with a huge amount of ad time, that makes the rare quality programs nearly unwatchable w/o a dvr which also costs you to rent.
I get OTA and surprisingly some of the PBS offerings are very good with NO advertising. I don't pay a red cent either.
Next up...the internet...If my provider doesn't deal I am cutting that cord as well. They are getting extremely greedy, brazen and arrogant with their price increases and limited speed tier choices.
I won't be paying more so that Charter's CEO Mr. Rutledge can have himself "helicoptered" around the NYC area.
i agree with the internet they give you less and charge more same with TV..
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New Orleans, LA | even I am probably if not definitely going to downgrade significantly come the end of my contract with my TV company.
The TV is used in my house almost non-stop in my house due to my wife staying home during the days and me using it at night when I get home...and by both of us during the weekends
And I honestly did not think the day would come where I felt like I was actually being ripped off TV wise.....but I see the total prices of these packages and am blown away.
UVerse gave me a deal as a 1st-time customer that still is in effect for 2 more months but if they think of even remotely charging me anywhere close to what the 'regular' price of my current package is....I would drop down to almost the 'basic' package in a heartbeat.
Cable companies have done a solid job in the last year, imo, expanding more to other devices and whatnot but they better watch their package prices, imo. | |
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