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 | Pictor Guy
join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA
| Re: So? Technically, (based on Cable Co. definitions) aren't all the channels offered by Dish digital?
I agree that Dish has some work to do. Their STBs would be the first place I would start but unfortunately it looks like DirecTV is following Dish's example in that area. | |
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jsimmons
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-24
Falls Church, VA | Re: So? Yep they are digital... Mpeg data streams, not analog. | |
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CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County | It depends on the cable system - I would be paying close to $70 for the same amount of channels I get on Dish and I am not paying $60 yet on Dish. | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | I've had Dish Network since 1996. I think I remember 2 or 3 price increases. WAY less then cable, IMHO. | |
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jsimmons
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-24
Falls Church, VA
 ·Cox HSI
| Re: More HD info And some of the so called HD channels carry little HD content - like "History HD" which just stretches the standard 4:3 screen to fit the HD screen size... Annoying. Hardly HD. If you are going to sell/advertise an HD channel, for god sakes it should carry HD content. 
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mindfrost82
join:2003-04-19
Cortland, IL | Re: More HD info It is up to the regulators to create a standard definition for what is considered HD content and what isn't. Until then, they will advertise it the way they've been doing. | |
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Premium
join:2007-08-15
Austin, TX | Re: More HD info You have motivated me to submit a complaint about TBS HD to the FTC. They are the champs of "no HD content on an HD channel". | |
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LBDSL
Lightning Bolt
VIP
join:2002-01-07
Auburn Hills, MI
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January 7th, @03:43PM
| Re: More HD info I understand what you are saying, and where you are coming from, but keep in mind, HD is more then just 16:9 content.
TBS for example, which stretches normal 4:3 programing (Which is stupid in my mind) may in deed be HD, based on the resolution they are transmitting/broadcasting (720, or 1080)
I think the only thing TBS had which was not stretched was baseball.
Even content which appears 4:3 could be true HD with 720, or 1080 Resolution.
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Jahntassa
What, I can have feathers
join:2006-04-14
Conyers, GA | Re: More HD info Also keep in mind most of the stuff on TBS is syndicated and not made in-house. Syndicated stuff, most often, was not shot HD and there is no way to make it HD. | |
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Premium
join:2007-08-15
Austin, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
 ·AT&T Southwest
| Re: More HD info said by Jahntassa  :Also keep in mind most of the stuff on TBS is syndicated and not made in-house. Syndicated stuff, most often, was not shot HD and there is no way to make it HD. A lot of what is on TBS is movies. They were certainly not shot in 4x3 480i. They could and should be shown in widescreen.
Clearly what they are doing is simply taking the SD feed from TBS, stretching it, and broadcasting it on TBS "HD".
The name others have come up with is "Strech-O-Vision". | |
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join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA
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January 7th, @04:17PM
| More likely than not 4:3 content did not originate from HD material but rather up-converted SD NTSC video footage. I'm not aware of anyone shooting consumer HDV in 1080i (1440x1080i) for broadcast and everything else in 4:3 is at best perhaps 480p and more likely 480i source material. | |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA | So maybe people in the US are not really getting shorter and fatter? Perhaps we are just being seen in stretch-o-vision?  | |
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| | BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by jsimmons :And some of the so called HD channels carry little HD content - like "History HD" which just stretches the standard 4:3 screen to fit the HD screen size... Annoying. Hardly HD. If you are going to sell/advertise an HD channel, for god sakes it should carry HD content. History Channel HD is one of the measely 22 HD channels Charter offers. That 22 includes premium channels you pay extra for. Not counting premium for $10 you only get 17-18 "HD" channels. At ths point I'd say both DirecTV and Dish are a MUCH better deal for HD than cable. | |
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johnsea66
Cool Down
Premium
join:2003-01-26
Canada | Dishes? Most customers already have a superdish that can pick up 3 sats, are they going to require customers to have another dish? Hmm... | |
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| mikenolan7
Premium
join:2005-06-07
Torrance, CA
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
| They are allowed to "colocate" their own satellites with existing satellites they have in orbit. If they do this, the locations will remain the same, and no new dish would be required. A new receiver may still be required to handle more channnels, that depends on whether extra capability was built into the existing receivers. | |
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hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
Premium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
clubs: | I can hardly wait.... to get Kung Fu HD.
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | Competition is good I've always been impressed by Echostar's willingness to do things even if they make the stock decline in the short run. | |
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ShadezeRO
join:2006-04-24
Fort Lauderdale, FL
·AT&T Southeast
| Had Dish, but not anymore I just switched from dishnetwork last month due to lack of quality HD programming. They had 30 or so channels, most of them I didn't like.
I saw directv had a few channels that peaked my interests, and so I Switched.
I'm curious to see what happens in the near future. Would DirecTV need to launch more satellites as well to keep up? | |
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comcastvsdish
@omcastbusiness.net
| comcast vs. dish I am tempted to switch to DishNetwork again. Currently I am on Comcast cable. Comcast is more expensive and the DVR they provide stinks. But overall it looks like I am stuck between two bad choices :-(
DishNetwork:
+ cheaper (quite a bit).
+ better DVR
+ ability to record pay-per-view shows using the DVR.
- does not work during heavy rain (from past experience)
- very bad customer service (which is another reason I left for comcast)
Comcast:
+ more reliable
+ better free "ondemand" then Dish.
- bad DVR (just about works)
- can not record "OnDemand"
- "OnDemand" is very buggy. I get server errors most of the time.
- more expensive
- so-so customer service
Regarding HD: I like it, but can live without it.
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opatl
@exsbs.net
| Re: comcast vs. dish i just left comcast for dish in the summer so happy over priced tons of problems on my street with comcast the picture is tiled about 85% of the time would call customer no service and they are like yes we have a problem on your street we can not find it
and on Wednesday dropping comcast hsi $57 for hsi going with att for dsl more speed for $37 see you comcast | |
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Bigzizzzle
Premium
join:2005-01-27
Franklin, TN
| Cable is AIDS in our Country Currently have Cable from ComCraptastic. I will totally go Dish in the future for my next house, Ive been both a Dish and DirecTV customer in past. Im just getting tired of the overpriced shit service in the south. IM enraged that the northern and western states where there is more competition ppl are getting 16/1 speeds and better prices. Also another unnerving thing is remember how cable made the claim that Cable Never Pixelates like satellite, well to them I say "LIAR Whores Liar Whores and U know it". I live in well kept up market where the Fiber node is 5 feet from my cable hookup. Damn them for lousy service. I also HATE the lousy Synced Audio on My HD channels which happens way too frequently ie when im watching NBC HD during say Leno. Fortunately being from middle TN the Weather isn't terrible bad for Satellite. Even before when I had a brand new Dish Satellite (old house) the picture never pixelated during the torrential down pour and lightning. I know both DirecTV and Dish are in the process of developing a VoD (Video on Demand) service like OnDemand, when that happeneds i can totally see a massive switch of Cable to Satellite. Bottom Line in Middle TN and TN in general we need MORE competition IE AT%T and others, Cause Comcast just won't float a nickel in our market and all they do is inflate our bill by 10% yearly so far offering mediocre service. I miss my Satellite and hope to see you soon either from DirecTV or Dish. | |
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knkayotte
join:2001-02-02
Camp Verde, AZ | SciFi I just want my Sci-Fi HD channel, then I'll be a happy camper. | |
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bommai
@comcast.net | Re: Local HD availability If your family watches locals 80% of the time, just get an antenna and drop everything else and save the money. That is what I did and am very happy. | |
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Brian Grif_n
Wireless Guru
join:2001-01-17
Reno, NV | Re: Local HD availability Wish I could. Due to the mountainous terrain here, I am line-of-sight to only 2 of the 7 local channels.
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