Dish: We'll Build an LTE Network in 2016. Maybe. Analysts Starting to Think Dish is Simply Full of Crap Last Summer Dish Network started insisting that the company was very seriously interested in launching an LTE network, despite previous executive assurances that the company was accumulating spectrum just for fun. Run from a subsidiary, the company is hoping to launch an LTE-Advanced network under the brand "Ollo." Dish is planning to use the spectrum they acquired from DBSD North America and TerreStar Networks, a transaction that just received FCC approval. But now that Dish has their spectrum they're waffling on a deployment date, telling the FCC they might be able to have such a network up and running by 2016. The company previously claimed that the LTE Advanced equipment for its S-band spectrum they plan to use likely won't even be available until 2015. Dish is now claiming that they'll need four years after the 3GPP validates its S-band satellite spectrum for 4G use -- something expected to happen this December. The delays are only re-enforcing the idea that Dish is just bluffing and stalling so they can flip the spectrum for more money at a later date: This is another example of an operator making desperate claims about the need for spectrum, and then finding every excuse not to build networks when they finally get it. Its a good indication that Dish chairman Charlie Ergen has no intention of ever building a network and just wants to flip the licenses for a quick and profitable sale. The more leeway there is on a building a network, the more attractive those licenses will be to a potential buyer. With LightSquared dead and Clearwire continuing to struggle, Dish would be a welcome additional competitive option, but the growing consensus is that the company is simply blowing smoke. Most analysts (and consumer advocates (pdf) are worried that Dish is simply making up intentions, just so they can sell the spectrum at an inflated rate to the nation's duopoly (AT&T, Verizon) at a later date.
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| How much... How much did DISH pay for the spectrum anyway?
In other news, the last thing we need are spectrum squatters, Dish or anyone else. Either they build the network (and light a fire under 3GPP to get the specs out) or they sell to someone who will...soon.
Personally, I would favor TMo and metroPCS's appeals to force a spectrum sale...if the spectrum does indeed intend to be sold. If Dish intends to launch their own network on 40Mhz, let them...but if they try to sell it they should be forced to break it into, at the largest, 20MHz chunks, and no more than half of the spectrum should go to AT&T+VZW. | |
|  |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: How much... said by iansltx:How much did DISH pay for the spectrum anyway?
In other news, the last thing we need are spectrum squatters, Dish or anyone else. Either they build the network (and light a fire under 3GPP to get the specs out) or they sell to someone who will...soon. No need to light a fire, specs will be finalized in 7 months. Why it will take Dish 4 years after that to offer LTE service is beyond me. | |
|  |  |  | | Re: How much... Because of the "Build out". It's just that. They are a Sat company, and so have to completely build a network of sites either as leased on others existing co-locations or build entirely new ones. There are also limited contractors that can handle such work. It's the same thing when 3g first hit and HDTV. Antenna needed to be upgraded or rebuilt and there was a shortage. In both of those cases, the owners (of the work- TV stations or a wireless provider) were simply doing what they already do, just upgrading. Dish has to start from scratch. Plus read the entire argument. Instead of having 30% coverage in 2015, they're planning on 60% at launch in '16. Nothing says that it can't happen faster, but with the current state of affairs (non-ratified specs, limited suppliers, able contractors for site building ((FCC licensed)....) they don't want to run into a roadblock when they're 4 months late, rather play it safe and bet on when they KNOW it can be done. No I'm not a Dish fan boy, I just have been in the industry for over 20 yeas and know how these things work..... | |
|  |  |  |  MichailPremium join:2000-08-02 Boynton Beach, FL kudos:1 | Re: How much... There are plenty of co-location spots out there. | |
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| Re: How much... There may be plenty of "spots" in some areas, but the major population centers are very congested. The available spaces on many of these structures is at or below the tree line. And rooftop sites in these areas? Forget about it. All the good sites are taken and extremely difficult to get a workable space. Then you have to lease and zone the site. Even if you co-locate like Lightsquared did with Sprint, you still have space issues, structural issues, and leasing issues. Riding one of the Big 4 is the best way to go. Building from scratch will cost billions more and take a lot longer. | |
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| Makes no sense The whole thing makes no sense... building yet another network to deliver LTE service for fixed use... it doesn't add up. Even if they co-located with Sprint, they'd be better off just letting Sprint use the spectrum in exchange for wholesale capacity, and either way, it's not going to be a replacement for wired internet. | |
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