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| | | | Re: with right- the key part is "once they get it up and running"- They had their own 4g network before running Wimax until they decided to scrap it due to $$$ and other reasons and off load it. | |
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Saint Clair Shores, MI | Re: with said by 25139889:right- the key part is "once they get it up and running"- They had their own 4g network before running Wimax until they decided to scrap it due to $$$ and other reasons and off load it.
Have you ever known Sprint to start and finish anything BIG? (and not screw it up) EVDO not withstanding. Look at ION. Nextel. Now, WiMAX. They were already buying plywood to shutter their CO's  till they decided to bite the bullet and go LTE. They may deploy in some big markets but I see Sprint turning into a MVNO haven and nothing more then another MCI/Worldcom. 
As far as the numbers go, I'll say the idea is spot on that their network will bog down during high use. EVDO use to be faster but with all the phones on it now, it's no better then what 2G use to be at times.  | |
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kudos:1 | Re: with my sprint 3G is smoking fast, and faster than when I set it up 6 years ago... must be everyone dropping Sprint. | |
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Saint Clair Shores, MI | Re: with Consder yourself the exception. More then not, it's the phone.  | |
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kudos:1 | Re: with said by tc1uscg:Consder yourself the exception. More then not, it's the phone.
same pantech px-500 in a linksys 54g3gs(or whatever) router
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Saint Clair Shores, MI | Re: with said by AVD:said by tc1uscg:Consder yourself the exception. More then not, it's the phone.
same pantech px-500 in a linksys 54g3gs(or whatever) router Thats a good card. Had one just like it when I was issued a laptop. Then they gave us these worthless USB modems. I thought I lost mine, they gave me another. Then I found it. It's in a drawer around here somewhere. Didn't turn it back in when I found it after I left the company (Sprint) . But I do remember that was a great modem.  | |
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| | | | Re: with actually no, because they're still without much money. A few markets is NOTHING compared to the companies they're competing against- that do have the money. Sprint's $$$ is only coming from their MVNOs and their prepaid side- which they spent all on the iCrap products.- and they didn't only spend it ONCE but TWICE on Sprint and VM. Talk about a dumbass move on their part.
And story? What story? the one that is linked? | |
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| | | | | Re: with said by 25139889: Sprint's $$$ is only coming from their MVNOs and their prepaid side- which they spent all on the iCrap products.- and they didn't only spend it ONCE but TWICE on Sprint and VM. Talk about a dumbass move on their part.
Only you could come up with and actually believe something this silly. You mad, bro? | |
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| | | | | | Re: with actually no I'm not. And i'm not the only one that stated this. It's been in the REAL news over and over again. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: with said by 25139889:actually no I'm not. And i'm not the only one that stated this. It's been in the REAL news over and over again.
Link to these "REAL" news articles please. | |
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| | | | | | said by swintec:Spent what twice? Sprint needed to sell / commit to $X in iPhones. I had assumed they just allowed Virgin Mobile to sell it so they could meet their quota that much quicker. Not like they signed ANOTHER agreement just for Virgin. Virgin is Sprint, just a prepaid version.
Of course that's the conclusion that common sense would lead a person to. Unfortunately, you have to consider who you're dealing with... | |
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| | | | also remember they did the same thing with Wimax- they had several cities online- only to later to give up on it. History repeats itself. Especially with no $$$$ to fund anything. Sooner or later they will in the courts asking for help- unless they pull an Auto Industry stunt and go beg for it from the President- because we all know he'd be dumb enough to give it up.
And you really thing Sprint is going to keep giving away unlimited Data? They must have you brain washed. They changed their policies several times on VM - and Sprint will be next. | |
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| | | | | Re: with said by 25139889:And you really thing Sprint is going to keep giving away unlimited Data? They must have you brain washed.
Count me in as brainwashed. Sprint is limiting to fewer types of devices but I'm thinking they'll keep it unlimited for smartphones for at least a couple more years, longer if they can. LTE capacity will grow over the next few years as they expand it to 800Mhz and then likely 2.5Ghz LTE. They ultimately should have enough capacity to maintain unlimited. Also consider Sprint has many more sites than VZW yet half the users, so even as Sprint grows, capacity should be more manageable than VZW. | |
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Saint Clair Shores, MI | said by xenophon:said by 25139889:And you really thing Sprint is going to keep giving away unlimited Data? They must have you brain washed.
Count me in as brainwashed. Sprint is limiting to fewer types of devices but I'm thinking they'll keep it unlimited for smartphones for at least a couple more years, longer if they can. LTE capacity will grow over the next few years as they expand it to 800Mhz and then likely 2.5Ghz LTE. They ultimately should have enough capacity to maintain unlimited. Also consider Sprint has many more sites than VZW yet half the users, so even as Sprint grows, capacity should be more manageable than VZW. Sprint started offloading most of it's L/L and typical voice users from their older wireline switches (Nortel) to more IP based switches around 2007. That offload was completed in 2009. All they have been doing since is trying to migrate all it's other users off the old nortel DMS250 switch to something more modern. As far as wireless goes, there would be no wireless with the backbone of the wireline but now forgotten division. Maybe some of us understand why our EVDO revA is as slow as standard 3G and sometimes, 2G. It's because sprints switches can't handle the load. They ran out of paper clips and rubber bands. | |
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| | | | said by swintec:They are already a lot further than you said they would be arent they? Are these stories just killing you to see?
Exactly. It's amusing to see someone be wrong so consistently. this poor soul in Ohio has absolutely ZERO credibility. | |
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| | | | | Re: with And you have any yourself? sounds like you could be one of those "sources" from Sprint that Oh Mighty Karl talks about. | |
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| | | | | | Re: with said by 25139889:And you have any yourself?
A lot more than you which, admittedly, isn't saying much. | |
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| | | | Re: with The WiMax results are probably like that since Sprint treats it as another company/network the same as they do Boost/Virgin- even going as far as putting them in their own "group". | |
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| | | | | Re: with Clearwire, who actually runs the WiMAX network, IS another company, unlike Boost/Virgin. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: with said by DarnellP:Clearwire, who actually runs the WiMAX network, IS another company, unlike Boost/Virgin.
ever since Sprint sold their share of the company.
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kudos:1 | said by xenophon:The Sprint MVNOs probably won't have LTE phones for a long time.
MetroPCS has their own LTE network.
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| | | | | Re: with said by AVD:said by xenophon:The Sprint MVNOs probably won't have LTE phones for a long time.
MetroPCS has their own LTE network. I was talking Virgin/Boost - they'll stick to WiMAX and probably won't do LTE for a long time. MetroPCS isn't a Sprint MVNO, though they roam on it. | |
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| Re: ! said by MovieLover76:I'm not sure where you are getting these ideas, smaller channels do not increase range, the frequency you use increases range lower = better, AT&T and Verizon's initial rollouts in the 700Mhz band will have better range than Sprint in the 1900 Mhz band
Verizon LTE has very consistant speeds, from right under the tower to the edge. I don't think the channel bandwidth has anything to do with interference, that all depends on what radio waves are on adjacent channels and is completely situational.
This was just an understanding over spectral width and the benefits and cons of having a small channel width. So if I am wrong on the range am I correct on the throughput then? I ask because I don't know hence the way I started my sentence.
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Howell, MI | Interesting Verizon results I have yet to considently find any 4G location to test below 10mbps per second... I probably average around 15-25mbps in southeast Michigan... In the AM hours it rockets up to 35mbps. | |
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A latency below 60ms at 4Mbps will help the performance of most smartphone apps/browsing more than 20Mbps at 150ms+ latency. Most smartphones don't need more than 4Mbps but the lower latency the better.
The magazine/blog sites need to start focusing on latency for overall smartphone performance, not bandwidth. | |
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| Jon GebWal-Mart Sucks
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Howell, MI | Re: Low latency and unlimited have more value than high Mbps My tower was initially having problems when my area was deployed... I was getting 30mbps with a 600ms ping... it was brutal. I posted in the Verizon forums and a poster called me ungrateful. | |
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| | | | Re: Low latency and unlimited have more value than high Mbps LOL.. he must have been a Verizon fanboy. J.G. don't be bothered that guy in the Verizon forum proudly has no idea what the word latency even means. | |
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united state | So Even if the speeds end up being 1-3 meg in real world tests, I'll take that with an unlimited data plan over 30 meg with a data cap any day. | |
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| Re: So I've been using sprint EV in their home market kansas city.. (which is cool we get LTE here! first..) but I've noticed how poorly performance is during the busy day.. vs. the unbusy night.. during the day I can get 300/600 kbps but only towards evening/midnight will I hit 1 mbit sometimes 1.5 mbit..
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