  SLD Premium join:2002-04-17 | Even my dad Even my dad dropped dial-up years ago and has broadband now. He's in his 70's and keeps calling me for help regarding drag-n-drop. | |
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 |   Homer J Mmmm, Free Goo
join:2000-10-05 Springfield | Re: Even my dad We got my father in law of AOL dial up a while ago as well. He is almost 80 and is enjoying time in the Internet more noe with DSL. | |
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 |   CylonRed Premium,MVM join:2000-07-06 Bloom County | My dad still can't get DSL or cable and too many trees for anything else like wireless. | |
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  Bobcat Premium join:2001-02-04 Bedminster, NJ | What about Mindspring? I had a Mindspring DSL account (DSL was via Covad) back in 2001. Mindspring was part of Earthlink at the time. Is Mindspring still around? -- It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice. | |
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 |   winsyrstrife River City Bounce Premium join:2002-04-30 Brooklyn, NY clubs: | Re: What about Mindspring? Pretty much, only in name. They've been completely assimilated by Earthlink. If you had, you can still use your mindspring.com address, as I do. Some of their services still refer to Mindspring (e.g. free web space). | |
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join:2000-11-14 San Francisco, CA
| said by Bobcat :I had a Mindspring DSL account (DSL was via Covad) back in 2001. Mindspring was part of Earthlink at the time. Is Mindspring still around? Since 2000, I still have DSL via Covad with a mindspring.com address. Others have written about being migrated from Covad to their local loop provider for DSL access. Mindspring.com is just one of the available addresses from Earthlink. | |
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join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Only $7.95/month.... Until you add in the $10 (lifeline) or +$20 (including fees) for basic POTS service.
Basic cable internet or dry loop dsl will cost less. | |
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 |  NormanS Premium,MVM join:2001-02-14 San Jose, CA | Re: Only $7.95/month.... In San José, the cheapest cable Internet will run right around $40 a month ($39.95 w/o TV, or $24.95 + $13.56 w/TV). -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum | |
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| Re: Only $7.95/month.... Yes. I believe Comcast calls it the "Economy" tier. 1 Mb/s down, 384 kb/s up. Bundled with a qualifying second service (Basic TV is $13.56 a month) the tier is $24.95 a month. Unbundled, the tier is $39.95 a month.
The lowest regular Comcast Internet tier is $42.95 a month, when bundled with a qualifying service, or $57.95 a month alone. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum | |
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1 edit | Missed the Boat as Usual The "Recession Special" that EL's brain trust (or any of the DSL providers for that matter) didn't think of was positioning their DSL as an alternative to the monthly cable or satellite TV bill.
Dial-up. Puh-leeeze.
BTW, any DSL company that now comes up with this had better dump at least $100,000 in cold, hard cash in my lap for the idea, since I beat them to it. -- There is no giant fur-bearing trout. | |
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 |   SLD Premium join:2002-04-17 | Re: Missed the Boat as Usual You mean, you beat them to writing about it in this thread. | |
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| Re: Missed the Boat as Usual said by SLD :You mean, you beat them to writing about it in this thread. No. Had they been devising such a scheme, it would have leaked out long ago. It has not, so they were not. -- There is no giant fur-bearing trout. | |
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  avd706 insert annoying animated gif here Premium join:2003-02-06 Union, NJ
| Patent Pending I have a surefire way to get Earthlink out of its slump!!!!
USAGE CAPS ond OVERAGE FEES
I mean if everyone else is doing it, EL wouldn't have to worry about people abandoning them to go somewhere else. How long would it take to hit a 5GB cap at 56k? You could charge an additional $10/gb over that. -- standard disclaimers apply. | |
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 |   funchords Hello Premium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Washington, DC
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| Re: Patent Pending said by avd706 : How long would it take to hit a 5GB cap at 56k? As little as 5-6 days. (Presuming simultaneous transfers amounting to about 2.5 GB down and 2.5 up).
The answer is sadder than the question. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- District of Columbia -- KJ7RL Evil does seek to maintain power by suppressing the truth, or by misleading the innocent. --Spock and McCoy stardate 5029.5 | |
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1 edit | Re: Patent Pending Best case, they're just slightly asymmetrical -- by a few percent (I did the research back when I was evaluating TWC's bandwidth caps).
best case 56Kbps / 48Kbps v.92 PCM -- But most of us really only maxxed at 53.3 Kbps down and 33.6 Kbps up. Where I lived, I couldn't even do that. | |
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join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA | Re: Patent Pending It's more than a few percent....53.3 down and 33.6 up. | |
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join:2007-04-23 Tuscaloosa, AL
| Earthlink missed the boat Earthlink's problem is that they missed the boat on broadband. They tried muni-fi, but that crashed when many cities moved away from that idea. IMHO, what they should've done a few years ago is to maybe buy some small cable operators and get into broadband that way. Fixed-point wireless would have been another option. I worked for a short time at a company that was using it to get broadband into areas where they couldn't offer DSL. They might have even considered buying some small telcos in rural areas. Isn't that why they bought OneMain.com: to get into rural areas? If you can get into a rural area and offer broadband there, you have a good chance of locking up that market. You may not make tons of money, but the money you do make will be more stable than in a highly-competitive urban area.
I knew dialup was doomed 30 seconds after I connected my DSL in 2000. Why ELN didn't realize this back then is a mystery to me. | |
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join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO | Re: How ELNK can survive.... Or just go wimax and move into every rural area that has no wired internet. | |
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join:2007-04-23 Tuscaloosa, AL
1 edit | With Wimax, you could do it in urban areas if you pitch it correctly. Pitch it to businesses that need things like real-time vehicle dispatching and data terminals on-board, high-speed point-to-point between local offices, cheap and fast mobile broadband, etc.
I'd certainly have rural areas as my bread and butter revenue generator, but urban areas can work as long as you're innovative. But if this company can't see beyond dialup, I'm not sure how innovative they can be. | |
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join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO | Re: How ELNK can survive.... Yeah urban would work too, especially if they were one where att or tw had a mono or were the dou and meter testing.
But there would be little to no competition in rural areas, and no sat is NOT competition to wireless. | |
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join:2005-06-03 Bedford, MA | try the public library Most public libraries (at least in Mass) have public access computers with internet. You can do plenty of job hunting this way and not have to pay for it. | |
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  Archivis Your Daddy Premium join:2001-11-26 Earth
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| Glad to see them fail. Glad to see that after they shafted their employees year after year, lay off after lay off, they're still not able to make it.
Great business decisions from the top. -- 'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.' -Thomas Jefferson - | |
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 |   Kristopher Premium join:2002-10-11 Middletown, PA | Re: Glad to see them fail. Agreed. I hope the executives rot in hell. | |
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join:2000-08-16 Miami, FL 1 edit | stay alive I remember when I had you guys back in 1994. | |
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join:2008-08-03 San Antonio, TX
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| "Why pay more..... to get to the same place that other internet company offers?" BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO GET THERE FASTER. DURRRRRRRRR. that netzero commercial pisses me off...... -- One day, High speed internet will be down my road! Willing to put DSLAM's or cable plants on my yard. Contact me AT&T or TWC to set up an appointment =] | |
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| So what if you need a landline for this deal? We have Earthlink in Hawaii via TW cable. It's cheaper than RR. As for needing a landline to get Earthlink's dialup so what? In Hawaii you have to have a landline as TW's phone service has NO backup and never will. It is not Carrier Class phone service. I don't know about you but I care about the health of my family and about having carrier class phone service...not Mickey Mouse TW phone service. So, for me, if I wanted Earthlink's cheap dialup that is exactly what I would get. As for cell phone replacing a landline...forget that also as I live in a concrete building in the rainiest city in the nation. I'd just love to have to go stand in the rain to place a phone call especially if it was for technical support for my desktop computer and I was downstairs in the front of the building in the rain. How lovely. So, don't go assuming everyone is ditching a Carrier Class landline for very inferior substitute service. Geeez. -- When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Thomas Jefferson | |
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join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH
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| Re: So what if you need a landline for this deal? Carrier Class landlines? What about those areas that are going to Fiber and the battery goes dead?
Also you are free to put your EMTA on an UPS system. The local nodes DO have power and have battery backups. They just do NOT provide the batteries. They are available for purchase though. | |
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| said by Mele20 :you have to have a landline as TW's phone service has NO backup and never will. What do you mean by "TW's phone service has NO backup"? Do you mean a fall back service in case it goes down? If so my Verizon landline and AT&T cell phone don't have that either....
If you mean power backup, both my Charter AND TWC phone service have it, are considered "Carrier Class", and work fine during power outages. Nice thing is neither my internet or TV service go down either during power outages, as long as my UPS and/or generator for MY equipment are running.
Sorry your area seems kinda backwoods and hasn't gotten the upgrades many of us mainlands have... | |
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| earthlink I have earthlink high speed dsl, and my theory is, "as long as it works" which it does.
3 members of the family have at&t and it is constantly disconnecting, and my brother has cable internet, and although his doesnt d/c, it gets really really really slow at times..
so I still have earthlink. it is ALWAYS on, always fast, where I live it is the same cost as cable, and I dont have to deal with any of the crap. | |
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