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| |  antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP
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| said by Cjaiceman:said by SLD:I miss the modem sound... NOT! Just for you  (youtube clip) And »www.lazylaces.com/56Kmodem/ ...
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| | | Modems are far from useless man. Hence the "FAX" part of a modem. One can still use send documents =). | |
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|  sivranBack to Opera againPremium
join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
kudos:1
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| In the dialup days I used to worry when I -didn't- hear that sound. If a modem was quiet, I couldn't tell it was doing anything! I'd try my damndest to make sure the modem made noise when attempting to connect.
Otherwise I'd be sitting there staring at Trumpet, and later the "Connecting.." box on Win95, wondering if the modem was doing anything at all.
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| | | | Re: I miss HAHAHH the modem sound rocks... I mean thats the "OLD DAYS"..
Modems ruled the roost for about 20 years. I mean from the early to mid 80s until around 2002-2003.. most people still utilized dialup.... | |
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join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
4 edits | Beavis and Butthead... Said it all.....You can't polish a turd....Ya ya ya but it would be cool if you tried.
This apparently is Earthlinks present business model.
P.S. they actually did polish a turd on Mythbusters, as I recall some sort of Japanese thing. | |
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The battle of the dinosaurs. Lets see who dies first. | |
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EarthLink, for one, need to drop that name. It's synonymous with failure. Second, they need to pool whatever money they have left and become a major player on-line.
Although I personally would never work for EarthLink as they are again or be a customer, they could come back if they get solid visionaries in place who are also grounded in reality but I doubt that will happen.
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1 edit | Re: EarthLink can be turned around..... said by fatmanskinny:EarthLink, for one, need to drop that name. It's synonymous with failure. Since they already own the name how about MindSpring? | |
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join:2007-02-19
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kudos:2 | Re: EarthLink can be turned around..... Or Prodigy. They own that too right? | |
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join:2000-11-03
somewhere | Re: EarthLink can be turned around..... said by iansltx:Or Prodigy. They own that too right? Nah,
att owns prodigy.
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| hrobinsPremium
join:2000-10-15
Regina, SK | said by fatmanskinny:They should get out of the internet business in terms of connectivity and become an internet property company. EarthLink, for one, need to drop that name. It's synonymous with failure. Second, they need to pool whatever money they have left and become a major player on-line. Although I personally would never work for EarthLink as they are again or be a customer, they could come back if they get solid visionaries in place who are also grounded in reality but I doubt that will happen. That makes two of us fatmanskinny. But you know as well as I do, they don't have any solid visionaries left. | |
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join:2001-03-25
Galt, CA | how exactly are you going to work for them when at last count around 80% of their workforce was outside the U.S.?
unless of course you are posting from Cebu or Bangalore?
on a serious note, i would not work for them ever again... having worked there previously when they decided to ship all their jobs overseas and having to watch how horribly they mis-managed that. | |
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| Re: EarthLink can be turned around..... said by dagg:how exactly are you going to work for them when at last count around 80% of their workforce was outside the U.S.? unless of course you are posting from Cebu or Bangalore? on a serious note, i would not work for them ever again... having worked there previously when they decided to ship all their jobs overseas and having to watch how horribly they mis-managed that. Lol. I actually worked at their corporate offices in Atlanta. It was an interesting experience. Like most corporations, it was one of the "who you know and not how great your work is" environments.
I am glad I left when I did. It was time to say goodbye.
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@charter.com | Re: EarthLink can be turned around..... I worked for Earthlink for over 5 years, beginning when they were small startup on Los Feliz Blvd in Glendale, CA. I was there in the mid to late 90s when they moved to their Pasadena HQ, gobbled up Mindspring, Internet in a Box and went public. I still have my 100,000 member t-shirt and some coffee mugs with the old logo on them. I left in late 2001 before they imploded and moved everything to Atlanta, but to this day I still consider it one of the most fun jobs I ever had. Actually being allowed to play games during work as long as you could work helpdesk at the same time and the monthly parties held in the NOC parking lot across the street (along with free beer). I held several positions there, eventually ending up in tier 2 domain support before leaving. I really do miss it.
I'm glad I left when I did too. The Pasadena building was vacated shortly after I left and heard it all went downhill from there. I did make a nice chunk of change selling stock options though. | |
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join:2002-01-19
Santa Clara, CA | said by fatmanskinny:They should get out of the internet business in terms of connectivity and become an internet property company. EarthLink, for one, need to drop that name. It's synonymous with failure. Second, they need to pool whatever money they have left and become a major player on-line. Earthlink CEO pressed the self destruct button in early 2004. Since then dumber than a lamppost senior management has done little to inspire confidence in the company.
Maybe the rename thing is their most powerful turnaround tool. | |
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join:2003-12-08
Birmingham, AL | Re: EarthLink Dial-Up is crap Well it is 2004,but not 2007 and up.When i use other Dial-Up provider connection is around 42kpbs. | |
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join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
kudos:18 | Re: EarthLink Dial-Up is crap said by Oleg:Well it is 2004,but not 2007 and up.When i use other Dial-Up provider connection is around 42kpbs. What are you mumbling about? The first posted image clearly shows a 2008 connection (the very first image if you are paying attention) and I get 49 K to 50 K every single time, not 42 K that shows you have a line problem or distance problem which is your Telephone Company, NOT the ISP. It would help if you knew how to diagnose such basic things, but you don't and it shows.
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join:2000-11-15
Tampa, FL
kudos:5 | I don't get it? What is dial up anyway? | |
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Amerika | No next gen? Tell that to DSLx DSL Extreme was able to negotiate reselling FiOS. Why can't Earthlink do the same? | |
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|  RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
kudos:2 | Re: No next gen? Tell that to DSLx said by Z80:DSL Extreme was able to negotiate reselling FiOS. Why can't Earthlink do the same? Because Earthlink sucks at reselling anything.
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Amerika | Re: No next gen? Tell that to DSLx You mean $50.00 for $30.00 DSL isn't a good deal? | |
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|  Radio ActiveMy pappy's a pistolPremium
join:2003-01-31
Fullerton, CA | said by Z80:DSL Extreme was able to negotiate reselling FiOS. Why can't Earthlink do the same? Because Earthlink blows goats.
I have proof.
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1 edit | Re: No next gen? Tell that to DSLx $35 on a price match. What is their standard rate for your plan? | |
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join:2001-04-19
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kudos:18 | Re: No next gen? Tell that to DSLx said by Z80:$35 on a price match. What is their standard rate for your plan? $39.95 per month. At one time (about 2 Years ago) it was the same price as Bellsouth FastAccess 6.0 meaning $46.95, but no-one ever paid that price at Earthlink as they only paid $39.95 so it was only the Bellsouth Fast Access Customers that had to actually pay that price. Plus I have resold Covad which is vastly better than Bellsouth FastAccess ever could be.
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Amerika | Re: No next gen? Tell that to DSLx That is a good deal. Here ELN is way more but I think it is because I'm in a VZ territory and not AT&T. | |
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| |  C0deZer0Oc'D To Rhythm And PolicePremium
join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL | Re: No next gen? Tell that to DSLx Way back before FiOS and before I moved out here in Davenport, we did have a choice between cable and *DSL, and among the cable was RoadRunner, ELN and AOL. Strangely enough, even though they were physically on the same lines, the EarthLink Cable service had significantly more consistent latencies for gaming, and didn't suffer any "peak hour hangups" in my neighborhood the way RoadRunner did.
Never could explain it, but I enjoyed it while I had it available to me.
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Mmm dialup Done right (for example with AT&T WorldNet's v92 numbers which have hardware compression enabled and sync at 53.3 kbps) dialup is liveable. I used it a bit this past summer when my phone died and I wanted to continue surfing.
Unfortunately Earthlink doesn't seem to be harping on the actual network technology end of things. I'd be willing to bet that 99% of their users have v92 modems, but in many places I'm pretty sure that Earthlink doesn't have v92 numbers. Not so hot.
As for Earthlink's speed improvements on their websites, congrats. Google does that sort of thing all the time, and the speedups are apparent on broadband as well as dialup. For the mobile site finder, WRONG WAY FORREST! Though OTOH Flash-heavy desktop-centric broadband-only sites aren't terribly cool either.
Here's another thought: most computers have Winmodems, which are pretty standard driver interface wise. Why not cook up your own special at-the-hardware-level protocol that figures out how to cram more bps onto a phone line? I'll bet you could get a bit closer to 64 kbps that way, and you might even be able to improve performance on lower-quality lines. The nice thing about all this is it could be done in software...a $29 USB WinModem could do it.
Personally, there are better/cheaper/faster dialup providers than Earthlink. TOAST.net for example is $10 per month, includes a Google Apps email account or two, has the excellent SlipStream accelerator software, and includes access to dozens of dialup networks nationwide. When on the trip I was able to connect to a few dozen local numbers across a variety of providers (AT&T, Level3, GlobalPOPs, Verizon, PAETEC). Actually got a passable connection out of some of 'em, with comparable latency to 3G cellular.
Hmm, maybe Earthlink should buy AT&T's dialup numbers, GlobalPOPs' dialup numbers and...leave AOL's craptastic ones to rot. Yuck, 19.2 kbps connection. | |
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somewhere | Re: Mmm dialup that's pretty cool... considering that most isps are just resellers of level3, and other clec carriers i always wondered if there was a site that listed things like that
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: Mmm dialup I'd do a dialup test around here but I don't have a POTS line to test with. Hmm, maybe I can try with a campus phone... | |
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join:2003-09-16
Columbus, OH | In reality... At the price many of these dialup providers are charging, even Earthlink, many DSL/Cable providers offer tiers that give them a run for their money in both speed and price. Time Warner here does offer a lite tier for $24.95/mo which offers speeds of 768k/128k which is much more bearable than dialup any day.
Our household has been terribly cash strapped lately and dropping broadband for dialup hasn't even been considered for this exact reason. The minimal savings being traded off for massive headaches from the speed just isn't worth it. 3 computers in the house would not make it on dialup, period. But even the 768/128 tier is perfectly usable with all 3 going at once (unless you try to do Netflix, youtube, etc.. Browsing and small downloads are fine.)
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|  knightmbEverybody Lies
join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN | Re: In reality... said by Vchat20:At the price many of these dialup providers are charging, even Earthlink, many DSL/Cable providers offer tiers that give them a run for their money in both speed and price. Time Warner here does offer a lite tier for $24.95/mo which offers speeds of 768k/128k which is much more bearable than dialup any day. Our household has been terribly cash strapped lately and dropping broadband for dialup hasn't even been considered for this exact reason. The minimal savings being traded off for massive headaches from the speed just isn't worth it. 3 computers in the house would not make it on dialup, period. But even the 768/128 tier is perfectly usable with all 3 going at once (unless you try to do Netflix, youtube, etc.. Browsing and small downloads are fine.) I have to agree that tighter wallets have really picked up our wireless business. We offer at the lowest tier 1024k/200k Internet connection for $9.99 a month (includes 3 accounts for 3 computers at the same with no bandwidth sharing, all get the same speed)
Covers basically all the web surfing, youtube, e-mail, that most people want or need. Faster tiers available of course, but usually only the power users really want the extra bandwidth.
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| sivranBack to Opera againPremium
join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Except that many of the folks on dialup probably can't get broadband at that price, if at all.
My grandfather lives out in the boonies, and has two choices: Earthlink dialup, and a WISP that's too expensive.
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join:2003-07-11
Colorado Springs, CO | I have to be honest... I laughed at the very sight of this.
It's like saying "We just don't really care anymore. Please, take the pain away."
I hope that we're all being trolled, otherwise, Earthlink is deeeead. | |
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So if you find yourself in the situation where dial up is your only option, a service that directs you to the lower-bandwidth-required mobile version might actually come in handy. | |
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| cherry pick frontier's geography it's readily apparent that at least some of frontier's geography has merit for ROI. earthlink should cherry pick the best and compete against frontier for getting broadband speeds up to par (which these days is around 15-20 megabit for entry level, not 1-7mbits). spending 80mil on a worthless effort could have wired half a small city in frontierland using non-union and even illegal immigrant labor (not that I condone such a practice-- but it's basically a one-shot deal to get things done on the cheap). small carriers should be given a little lee-way to get infrastructure deployed as the major carriers don't even want these geographies. I would even go as far as to say even AT&T is carefully cherry picking it's current landline geography on where to make the investment for uverse and fttn/p deployments. at&t doesn't want to be put in a broadband race with cablecos the way verizon has with cablevision. now they're stuck contemplating higher rates that customers won't pay or capping service and setting the progress of adoption back 15 years.
There was a time when RCN was just the carrier to do the job, but they were sabotaged by then Bell Atlantic rboc and pumped too much cash into legacy equipment copying the cable company model. Another reason is they had no plan for expansion, just alot of heated rhetoric.
I think being a content provider today (as some suggest) is risky to those who are not truly innovative to begin with. There is profit to be made for getting dialup into the broadband era. Verizon conceded that one size can not fit all and sold it's unprofitables to frontier. This is an OPPORTUNITY for another company to come in and be SMART about the technology use to get the job done... whether it be FTTX, Coax, Copper, Wireless, etc. Consumers don't care how.. they just want what everyone else has for a similar price point. So, why not give consumers what they want when they're willing to pay for it!? | |
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Canonsburg, PA | Re: cherry pick frontier's geography What financial resources are Earthlink supposed to use when Frontier (and cable companies) fights such action through lawyers, lobbyists, etc. The incumbents have already shown they're willing to throw roadblocks in the way even in areas where they have no immediate plans to increase the costs for potential competitors. | |
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join:2001-07-23
West Hartford, CT
kudos:1 | Never mind dialup and hokey marketing. My advice, once again, should Earthlink want to pay attention:
Instead of wasting your dwindling financial resources on marketing gimmicks and downright silly schemes like hoping people will drop broadband for dialup when the price difference between the bottom tier of broadband and dialup is negligible [and in some cases zero or less!], try hiring a new US-based tech support team for your broadband and VOIP customers and LISTEN TO THEM WHEN THEY TELL YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO FIX. Let them post here and we'll welcome them with open arms. Then you can get rid of the world-class embarrassment that is your offshore support system.
You might not be the next Microsoft or Google, but after a year or so you'll be in much better shape than you are now. | |
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join:2000-10-15
Regina, SK
1 edit | Re: Never mind dialup and hokey marketing. said by DrStrange:My advice, once again, should Earthlink want to pay attention: Instead of wasting your dwindling financial resources on marketing gimmicks and downright silly schemes like hoping people will drop broadband for dialup when the price difference between the bottom tier of broadband and dialup is negligible [and in some cases zero or less!], try hiring a new US-based tech support team for your broadband and VOIP customers and LISTEN TO THEM WHEN THEY TELL YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO FIX. Let them post here and we'll welcome them with open arms. Then you can get rid of the world-class embarrassment that is your offshore support system. You might not be the next Microsoft or Google, but after a year or so you'll be in much better shape than you are now. Problem is DrStrange they won't care, when I worked there they said they could save money by outsourcing their tech support. The writing was on the wall the very day they decided to outsource. | |
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join:2001-07-23
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kudos:1 | Re: Never mind dialup and hokey marketing. I don't expect them to listen to my advice now, but I expect others to remember my consistent advice throughout the recent history of Earthlink when the time comes for them to pay the piper for their penny-wise-pound-foolishness. | |
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