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Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs: | Cost? 1 tb Hd would be excellent better than anything on the market today.
Will they charge extra like a dvr package? i would say yes. maybe? | |
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 | Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
| Re: Cost? said by hayabusa3303  :1 tb Hd would be excellent better than anything on the market today. Will they charge extra like a dvr package? i would say yes. maybe? like a extra charge for the upload bandwidth needed to make HD come out good.
Where is the Direct tv Sling-Integrated Box? | |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs:
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| Re: Cost? said by Joe12345678 :said by hayabusa3303 :1 tb Hd would be excellent better than anything on the market today. Will they charge extra like a dvr package? i would say yes. maybe? Where is the Direct tv Sling-Integrated Box? Dish owns sling why would they want to help direct? | |
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join:2006-05-12
Springfield, IL
| Re: Cost? said by hayabusa3303 :Dish owns sling why would they want to help direct? They probably would have as good of chance w/DirecTV as they will trying to get ANY cable ops from leaving the Moto/SA set-top monopoly's - IOW's, a snowball's chance in HELL!!!   | |
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join:2004-08-05
Home | Re: Cost? This is a Tru2Way cable box, they don't have to convince any cable company to leave SA or Motorola. All they have to do is sell them in stores or direct to consumers. Who then get a CableCard from their cable company and authorize this box. | |
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join:2006-05-12
Springfield, IL
| Re: Cost? said by smcallah :This is a Tru2Way cable box, they don't have to convince any cable company to leave SA or Motorola. All they have to do is sell them in stores or direct to consumers. Who then get a CableCard from their cable company and authorize this box. If you read this the PDF & other posts, it is NOT being positioned as a consumer bought unit, but a cable-op supplied box:
»www.satelliteguys.us/general-cab···t1764921
I stand by my posting...  | |
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| | | fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20 | Dish doesn't own sling, Echostar does. You did notice in the post that they are two different divisions, right? | |
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| | | | dishrich
join:2006-05-12
Springfield, IL
| Re: Cost? said by fiberguy :Dish doesn't own sling, Echostar does. You did notice in the post that they are two different divisions, right? Uh, yea - and, it still not going to make ANY difference as far as cable ops go; it's STILL basically a Charlie Ergan company, who is NOT exactly known to be "cable friendly" - you of all people should know this...  | |
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| | | | | fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Re: Cost? This is true, BUT, they are not on the high side of the totem pole as far as subscribers compared to the top 3 cable and DirecTV.. so, if you ask me, it makes sense to, well.. okay, they're 1) going to fill a void where other refuse to. and 2) going to make a product that quite honestly will embarrass the cable companies.
Comcast has tinkered around with Tivo for almost 5 years now and it hasn't really come to bear fruit yet. Here comes Echo who's making a box for the other side of the business they'd have interest in (sat) and embarrass the hell of out them ALL WHILE making a profit which will ultimately assist in DISH.
It's kind of like the how the US spends money with other countries so they other countries can finance their attacks against the US using our own money.
This is really going to slap cable in the face if/when these boxes are able to be used tru2way and are sold on the retail market. Watch DISH make money from cable customers..
Also, I know several people at Dish who have said that this box will also be available for the DISH service too. | |
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join:2006-05-12
Springfield, IL
| Re: Cost? said by fiberguy :Also, I know several people at Dish who have said that this box will also be available for the DISH service too. They already ARE going to do this - it's called the 922:
»www.satelliteguys.us/dish-networ···ces.html
I ALREADY saw it in action at CES - I can assure you this unit will be out LONG before the cable version does! | |
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My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Re: Cost? Yes.. I know the box is slated to be released with Dish.. I just don't always like to say certain things on this forum sometimes.
You're way right about that too.. and sadly, I think that this box will be VERY slowly adopted by cable providers.. for one, the investment.. and two, they're not going to like the model of the new DVR box.. or, they'll cripple it so bad that it wouldn't be worth even $1.99 a month to rent. | |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | "Where is the Direct tv Sling-Integrated Box?"
In the trunk of the Ford Mustang with OnStar.  | |
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| Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| just watch the content owners will sue this one down for some stupidly lame and weak reason. you know someone like MLB or the NFL will try and get it blocked by the court for the fear of it somehow bypassing blackouts or that is the excuse they will use.
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kfsutops
Premium
join:2002-08-19
Brandon, FL
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| Re: Cost? said by Kearnstd :just watch the content owners will sue this one down for some stupidly lame and weak reason. you know someone like MLB or the NFL will try and get it blocked by the court for the fear of it somehow bypassing blackouts or that is the excuse they will use. I hear ya. But what's the difference between Echostar offering and Sling offering the same type of device (even though sling's does no include a tuner)?
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skuv
@rr.com | Re: Cost? Echostar owns Sling, so Echostar is already offering both devices. | |
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| RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | This is for cable, not satellite. | |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs: | Re: Cost? Sounds like dish is trying to move in on cisco and motorola playing field. | |
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58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | Re: Cost? They've been in the set top box market for some time now. | |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI | Re: Cost? Not on a cable network they haven't, which why he said that. | |
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58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | Re: Cost? Of course, but those above were rattling on about Dish and DirecTV. | |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI | Re: Cost? Right, but you responded to a post talking about cable STBs. Others were, yes. | |
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Bit
Premium
join:2009-02-19
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1 edit | Sweet I really dig my Slingbox Pro. What is the biggest challenge is explaining to friends who have no idea what Slingbox does, what it can do. Once they 'get it' they definitely want it. All of their DBS boxes should come with it. | |
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| DarkLogix
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | Re: Sweet ya cool idea
Directv already has web based record selection
so this would be a cool addon (maybe they could find away to do it via software update)(or not) | |
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Bit
Premium
join:2009-02-19
00000 | Re: Sweet It would be done in software so if the machine's processor were fast enough and Echostar doesn't hold some patent barring D* from doing this it should be possible. | |
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join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | Re: Sweet ya well I'm sticking with directv so I hope that tthere's a way | |
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Bit
Premium
join:2009-02-19
00000 | Re: Sweet Just run a stand alone Slingbox or Slingbox Pro, then you will still have all the features of the regular Directv box and you don't have to wait. | |
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join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | Re: Sweet I'm not interested enough to add another device
if they add it great if not oh well | |
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amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America
clubs:
| wonder if A person could actually buy the thing outright instead of having to rent it.
Also wonder if Tivo (or somebody else) is going to try suing them for this too...
Funny how they supposedly already have a good DVR for the sat. service too... and now they're making one for cable companies. At least there's some competition out there now instead of the same old same old that's been on the market for so long. Don't get me wrong, my Moto DVR is alright, sure, but I've always wondered how much better it could really be if there were more choices (and I refuse to "buy" a tivo, only to pay a subscription anyway...)
What I would really like to see most is more digital cable channels "in the clear" - to be "cable ready" in the digital age seems difficult compared to analog...
One should be able to plug in a new TV and tune digital channels that are also "in the clear" in analog.
This would also open up home-brew media centers again.
I think we can all understand "premium" channels being scrambled/encrypted - but to only have the major networks unencrypted is kind of unfair... One should not have to rent a box, or a cable card for "expanded" basic channels; it is a giant step backwards.
One can dream.
Until then, glad to hear of some competition with some cool features! | |
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| chronoss2009
join:2008-09-23 | Re: wonder if Tivo cant sue most of there software they are using is and should be open source ...how quickly they forget. | |
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skuv
@rr.com
| Re: wonder if What are you talking about?
The software that TiVo uses is proprietary. Their software just happens to RUN on Linux, their software was never open source and isn't based on Linux or anything open source. Linux is the operating system they chose to use.
That's like saying that Oracle DB server should be open source because Oracle has a version that runs on Linux.
Not to mention that TiVo has ALREADY sued Echostar and won over DVR patents. | |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| said by amungus :Also wonder if Tivo (or somebody else) is going to try suing them for this too... Echostar/Dish and Tivo already went several rounds of lawsuits with Tivo ultimately winning over $100m in penalties and interest and got Dish to change some of their DVRs code base to not infringe on their patents. Other DVRs (Model 721 and others IIRC) also were being replaced by Dish at no charge I believe due to the patent lawsuit.
While Dish still has some retaliatory-like lawsuits still pending, they would be foolish to again use tivo-patented technologies. | |
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cypherstream
Looking forward to the future of things.
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
clubs:
| A few cavats, but then I'll be interested If it can pull VOD content and comes with a nice high resolution UI at a decent price point, I'm interested.
The Comcast Motorola isn't doing it for me anymore. Just keep the thing around for VOD access, otherwise I'd go something more advanced like Moxi. | |
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L Supreme
Premium
join:2004-06-05
Lowell, MA
| Re: A few cavats, but then I'll be interested said by cypherstream :If it can pull VOD content and comes with a nice high resolution UI at a decent price point, I'm interested. The Comcast Motorola isn't doing it for me anymore. Just keep the thing around for VOD access, otherwise I'd go something more advanced like Moxi. its a tru2way device so yes it will have VOD access | |
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chronoss2009
join:2008-09-23 | lets see 40GB HD-dvd
960 GB
24 films for how much and then what you are having to del and remove or rebuy and get.
FAIL | |
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| jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Re: lets see You're doing it wrong. | |
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Fubar
join:2001-02-20
Phoenix, AZ | Re: Sling Box Functionality??? Slingbox has brought it to the masses though,
And with a much nicer GUI.... It is much more than streaming also... | |
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| JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL | Happens all the time. First to market is not always the best. Tivo and Sling took an idea and made it better. | |
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| | | JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
| Re: Sling Box Functionality??? Really someone better tell that to Replaytv. Can't speak for Sling since I've never used their product. Talk to anyone who has used a Tivo dvr and a regular cable dvr or satellite dvr and see which one the like better. 9 out of 10 times it will be the Tivo.
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nukscull
@rr.com
| What the heck are you talking about?
It is Slingbox functionality because ECHOSTAR BOUGHT SLINGBOX and integrated it into this DVR.
Why would they call this anything but Slingbox functionality?
"Yes, we own Slingbox, but let's not say our box has Slingbox functionality, let's say it has internet video streaming."
Which isn't even the same thing. Do you even know what a Slingbox does? It connects to your coax or to your cable box/TiVo/Sat box, and tunes channels remotely so that you can watch live TV or DVR'd shows from your house. How is that anything like streaming video from some Internet site? Other than "video" is the common thing involved.
Me going to Hulu to watch a show is not the same as me tuning my cable box at home from a hotel 1000 miles away so I can watch the local news, or shows that I have DVR'd at home. | |
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Jmartz
join:2000-07-20
Tenafly, NJ
| True Two Way? Does it support this True Two Way nonsense? If not, then it will not be able to get VOD, and good luck getting companies like Cablevision to offer it. Cablevision is moving away from set top DVR's.. at least they are trying to anyway, so I wouldn't count on it. | |
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whtahtefcuk
join:2009-04-01
Urbana, IL
| Re: True Two Way?Yes it does support Tru2Way, plus:
The SlingLoaded T2200S also provides the following features:
-- Supports MPEG-2, H.264 (MPEG-4) and VC1.
-- 1GHz tuners to support expanded network bandwidth.
-- Connect to the home network via Ethernet, WiFi (with optional WiFi
adapter) or Multimedia over Coax Alliance (MoCA(TM: 63.44, n.a., n.a.%)).
-- Picture-in-Picture
-- Supports advanced resolution formats up to 1080p24.
-- Individual branding opportunities for MSOs.
-- Supports Macrovision and DCS analog copy protection.
-- Features an attractive, capacitive-touch, backlit front panel with
clock display.
With all that going for it you can bet the MSOs won't want anything to do with it. :p | |
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join:2006-01-23
Arlington, VA
| Re: True Two Way? said by markofmayhem :All Broadcom BCM7410 (and newer) based STB's will have this functionality. I could have sworn that I just replied to this post.
Don't expect to see the BCM7410 or BCM7420 in any product this year. Those chips will be Broadcom's first 45nm solutions and they won't be in mass production for some time yet.
Broadcom's latest shipping DVR SoCs are the BCM7400 and BCM7405. Those are the SoCs you can expect to see in most new OCAP DVR products shipping in the next six months.
The Dish Network ViP922 and Echostar T2200S are both based on the BCM7400. A separate IC will be used for MoCA. | |
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join:2004-04-08
Pittsburgh, PA | Re: True Two Way? Yes you did, but this one is out of context. MSO's will "want anything to do with" these features. | |
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Neyland
join:2003-02-04
USA | HD Catcher Heck, I'd just like to be able to Sling from the living room to the HD TV in the bedroom. | |
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Echostar Unveils Sling-Integrated Cable Box
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