 LoRo
join:2006-10-10
Stanwood, WA | OpenDNS Project Another reason to use the OpenDNS project. No issues on my embarq. | |
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join:2002-06-17
Fort Pierce, FL | Re: OpenDNS Project Yes, but you have control over this feature and can turn it off
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Enable typo correction
When OpenDNS receives a request to resolve a domain which does not exist (NXDOMAIN), we first attempt to correct any known typos and resolve the domain again. If that fails, we use the request as a search term on OpenDNS Guide to help you get back on your way.
If you're trying to resolve an internal address (VPN, printer, local network address), add the domain(s) to your typo exceptions list. You'll get the benefits of typo correction and still handle any local resolution locally.
Features that will not work without typo correction enabled: shortcuts, adult site blocking, custom image, custom message.
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|  SkellBasherYes Sorto, I'll take my Prozac
join:2000-10-22
Niagara Falls, NY
1 edit | Only took 12 minutes for the OpenDNS comment to come out.
Someday people will learn that OpenDNS' business RELIES on the very same DNS redirection that's considered so evil when the ISP does it. | |
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|  CabalPremium
join:2007-01-21
Austin, TX
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| said by LoRo:Another reason to use the OpenDNS project. No issues on my embarq. That's great, except that the complaint is due to a lack of a proper nxdomain response. You don't get one from OpenDNS, either (even after turning off as many options as you can in settings).
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| | | | Re: OpenDNS Project said by Cabal:said by LoRo:Another reason to use the OpenDNS project. No issues on my embarq. That's great, except that the complaint is due to a lack of a proper nxdomain response. You don't get one from OpenDNS, either (even after turning off as many options as you can in settings). Open DNS is slow to many using it. My isp's are faster. | |
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|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by LoRo:Another reason to use the OpenDNS project. No issues on my embarq. NEWSFLASH!!!!!!!!!
opendns ALSO has redirection.
4.2.2.1
4.2.2.2 FTW!
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| | | | Re: OpenDNS Project haha, I love those DNS servers. They have been around forever....I worked with a guy who had been using them since the late 90's. | |
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 wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | Yawn All the providers will be doing this if they arent already. I really dont see what the big deal is here. Its nothing new, and yet its a rallying point for some on this website. As has been mentioned (each time this comes up) there are alternative DNS options out there, so if this really bothers you dont use your ISP's DNS service.
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| wvcaverPremium
join:2005-04-17
Millersburg, OH | Re: Yawn Well said ! | |
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|  MooJohn
join:2005-12-18
Milledgeville, GA | Let's See Where You Stand When... When ISPs next decide to redirect you to an advertisement before allowing you to continue to the valid URL you typed -- for each URL you visit. After all, that won't keep anything from working either -- you'll just be a little inconvenienced every time you visit a new site.
What if they forced you to visit their portal site before you could browse anywhere else?
It's slippery slope when you start mucking with networking standards just to make a buck. ISPs need to realize that they are just "dumb pipes" and work to do that job well.
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| |  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Let's See Where You Stand When... Yup - thats where the Internet becomes a useless piece of spam (already on its way there).
It would be 'nicer' if there was a 'real' web interface for this, and you could say 'opt-in' for cheaper Internet service (profiled) with spam filled/redirected Internet service, and a 'real' Internet. Wait... they do have something like that - its their 'business class' Internet.
If these ISP's start implementing their zone finder service on business class Internet service, then they'll be losing customers VERY fast.
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| | | | | Re: Let's See Where You Stand When... Well maybe if business class service isn't redirected as well then just using those dns servers might be a choice or work around that people can simply use. | |
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| | assumed opt-in seems like a lot of companies just assume that everyone they serve will opt-in for their new 'great' feature, it seems like this applies to more than just dns redirection services. i'm guess for the most part, most users won't care at all and pass it off as nothing, but for those few that a bit more familiar with the internet, dns-redirection is annoyance. if i get one of those pages, i'd be annoyed, but i could be a while before i get annoyed enough to get rid of it.
if they are going to do this dns redirection stuff, they should ask paying customer if they want this 'feature'. maybe something in the monthly bill, a forced one time redirect to a opt-in/opt-out page, email message with link, and so on. they should make it easy to turn on or off the feature without having to repeat the process multiple times.
i'm also getting the feeling this is just one more way to use the customer to generate a little bit more income. i've got a crazy idea, maybe they should share the income they make from these dns redirection pages, then again, maybe i should put the crack pipe down too. | |
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| | | Re: assumed opt-in I was about to ask, as *paying* customers, where *our* cut of the profit was.
I'm not a "crack-head" and have never used crack, but that comment "maybe i should put the crack pipe down too", caused me to spit beer, I mean coke-a-cola all over my keyboard. | |
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| | | To play devil's advocate, consider the end result of a customer getting redirected to something like this versus a squatted 3rd party domain. Sure they're going to get advertisements here, but hopefully this will help somewhat lower the chances of random spyware and virus infections. I'd consider that a small benefit to the average consumer as well as the ISP. | |
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| |  pfakBow before me for I am rootPremium
join:2002-12-29
Vancouver, BC | Re: assumed opt-in What stops them from being redirected to a squatters domain? | |
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| | | | | Re: assumed opt-in said by pfak:What stops them from being redirected to a squatters domain? Really... doesn't ISP redirection at this moment only work for unregistered domain? Not like OpenDNs which you can choose to block known spyware sites. | |
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kd6caeP2p Shouldn't Be A Crime
join:2001-08-27
Palmdale, CA Reviews:
 ·Vitelity VOIP
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| where is Cox doing DNS redirection? I'm visiting friends on Cox cable San diego, and they're not doing DNS redirection, and neither is Cox Oklahoma DNS servers. I use Speakeasy DNS at home as well as the university of California at Riverside's DNS server. Works well. If many of these major ISP's insist on doing DNS redirection, then what DNS servers can we use besides the one's I mentioned? Has anyone compiled a list of known good DNS servers to use besides openDNS or level3's? Many DNS server's only allow you to query them if they host the domain you're querying. | |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | Bypass your ISP... Just punt your ISP's DNS servers and run your own. Not only will this eliminate your ISP's redirection schemes, it may be faster at resolving names.
Linux users probably already know how to do this. If you're a Windows user, try TreeWalk DNS.
»ntcanuck.com/
Here is a FAQ describing what TreeWalk is, what it does and how it can be used:
»ntcanuck.com/faq.htm#a-what_is_tw | |
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 gatorkramKaBOOM BabyPremium
join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
kudos:2
·Suddenlink
| Yeah yeah.. If you are savvy enough to complain about ISP DNS issues, you are savvy enough to know how to get around them, or otherwise deal with them in a manner that makes you happy.
If not, find a friend who is, and use their dns servers..
As long as the root servers don't do this, which I highly doubt they ever would, there really is no issue...
Sooner or later, much like ISPs have crappy USENET support, people will be paying for better DNS servers too..
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 furloniumComputer Over? Virus equals Very Yes?
join:2002-05-08
Bethlehem, PA | Oops www.xx.com is a porn site.
haha! Well not so much a porn site as it is some sort of generic portal to porn sites. | |
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join:2000-07-23
Washington, NJ
1 edit | Verizon Online For what it's worth, Verizon provides alternate DNS servers to hardcode into your configuration if you desire to opt out. It works well but the procedure involved is rather well hidden. | |
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| | Other Choices? If everyone runs their own DNS server, then everyone is sending requests to the root servers, which would probably become a problem if very widespread. If you didn't want to use your ISP's servers, or OpenDNS, are there other options for public access DNS servers, without any redirection? | |
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| | | Re: Other Choices? said by mikenolan7:If everyone runs their own DNS server, then everyone is sending requests to the root servers, which would probably become a problem if very widespread. I agree that if EVERYONE ran their own dns server it could potentially create excess traffic to root servers. That was the point to having ISP based servers, that way some of the redundant dns traffic would remain on the local ISP network and not transverse to internet query. AT present I run my own internal caching DNS Server which points to my ISP's DNS server, i have always noticed a slight lag when directly querying root servers. | |
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 Rogue WolfAte Your Homework, And Framed The Dog
join:2003-08-12
Troy, NY | Mommy, why does the computer screen say bad words? Would you look at those third and fifth suggested links?  I wonder if the ISP could be held responsible if one of their "Related Searches" ended up getting computers infected. 
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 Jafo232You Can't Spell Democrat Without Rat.Premium
join:2002-10-17
Boonville, NY | Sheesh, run bind already.. Take your old PC that is sitting around collecting dust, install Linux on it with bind, close all other ports cept DNS, put it on your LAN, assign it a static IP, and bingo, you have a new DNS server..
Christ, you could probably do that with an old Commodore 64 if you wanted to.
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cghh
join:2001-01-15
Milpitas, CA | User-specified mis-typing tools disabled I would think that little companies like Google who have their own URL mis-typing browser plugins would be rather upset at the ISPs for taking away their business. Note that this ISP re mis-direction preempts any such functionality that the user may want to install in their browser. | |
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rayePremium
join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable
| Sadly, this has/will become the rule How many times has one mistyped a web page only to be redirected to a spam/spyware/malware site hosted by some IP block in Russia?
I can think of other ways to solve this problem (like redirecting users to a 404 not found); however at $40-50/month these folks see a potential for more money via advertising. Embarq, like the others see the Internet as a one-way advertsing stream instead of the 2-way commuications medium it is continuing to evolve into.
Run your own caching DNS server. Nor hard at all to set up; some routers may already have them. It is perfectly legal so long as you do not advestise it out for others to use. | |
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 rsmith7Premium
join:2003-03-11
San Diego, CA | OPEN DNS I can't agree more to use OPEN DNS. It allows you the ability to filter out things that maybe you do not what you kid to access. Plus you can get your stats from the site, for those who care. | |
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