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Embarq/CenturyTel Union Getting Closer
Regulators in California, Oregon, and Virginia approve...
by Karl Bode 11:55AM Wednesday May 20 2009
Last October, the seventh largest ILEC (Centurytel) acquired the fourth largest (Embarq) in a deal estimated to be worth $11.6 billion. Telecompetitor directs our attention to a CenturyTel press release that notes California, Oregon, and Virginia have approved the deal. That leaves just two of the thirty three States the company does business in who've yet to approve the deal. The freshly fused company would have 7.5 million access lines, more than two million broadband customers and more than 400,000 video subscribers.

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Jerm

join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
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Century Tel

My in-laws have them. What a phone company. Still sells 256kbps DSL.

Welcome to 1998!
hottboiinnc4
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: Century Tel

At least its something. They could just up and only offer dial-up. CenturyTel also is somewhat a rural provider.

inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK

Re: Century Tel

so you are saying that people should be grateful for "broadband" that is worse than some 3rd world countries?

slappy white

join:2008-06-16
La Crosse, WI
Where do your in-laws live?

CenturyTel serves many areas with 256k that would not have better than dial up otherwise.

Jerm

join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
kudos:2

Re: Century Tel

Wow lots of CT fans or something? The inlaws live near Tacoma, Washington in Gig Harbor. Not exactly a rural backwater.

Just FWIW, they did try CT DSL a year ago when it had some kind of promo. Still wasn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination.

These are non-techy people. Their computer is old and slow (1ghz w/ 384mb RAM). They were used to dialup. Even at 256kbps, DSL was faster than the 26.4 dialup.

But then they got Comcast... no comparison.
hottboiinnc4
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: Century Tel

maybe they live on the edge of the DSL service area which only allows them to obtain those speeds with DSL.

Many telco's do not deploy RTs to increase the distance.

slappy white

join:2008-06-16
La Crosse, WI
So they have 256k or better available to them with CenturyTel...they just choose to go with Comcast. I better understand your original post now.
So are they paying $50 something dollars for a speed that there old and slow computer will never fully realize? They may have not needed much more than 256k. (FWIW you can get DSL cheaper now by going without the previously required phone line)
Comcast should have an Internet Economy tier that is 1.0M for around 25 bucks. You may want to look into that for them.

Jerm

join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
kudos:2

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Re: Century Tel

Gosh do either of you guys have CT?

First off at the time it was a promo for 256kbps DSL for I think something like $25 a month (was the "base" speed package). To get 1.5mbps was nearly double that cost. Again this was all over a year ago anyway.

I'm not the one who suggested they upgrade to cable, they switched and were commenting on how much faster it was.

slappy white

join:2008-06-16
La Crosse, WI

Re: Century Tel

I do. I have Pure Broadband 10M and My Premium IPTV (CenturyTel's TV product in La Crosse).
I know I live in one of the best CenturyTel markets, but I have no complaints. I was just on the phone with them the other day trying to sort out what would be best for my Mother. I saw your post and was curious about your in-laws situation. With CenturyTel or Comcast (or anyone for that matter) things change...prices change...packages change...speeds change. If they are happy with Comcast then that is great. If they are not I would call CenturyTel and get the latest and greatest and not go by what everything was over a year ago. Take care
hottboiinnc4
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Ohio

Ohio will be next. They have a meetings set this month and the first part of June and the deal is expected to be voted on then.
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1

Verizon

This foreshadows how the Verizon spinoff to Frontier will go. The PUCs are still approving anything with a catchy video.

Time
Premium
join:2003-07-05
Irvine, CA

Embarq NV

This merger is nothing more than two corporations who have no interest in investing in their broadband market. I can obtain 1.5 Mbps DSL at my location (welcome to 2000?) - meanwhile, Cox is offering 16 Mbps. I really wish they'd just sell off the Vegas market to AT&T or Verizon. You know it's pathetic when an internet provider treats a heavily urban area (the fastest growing in the nation, mind you) as if it were rural.

Not saying Cox is bad, but it would be nice to have some worthy telco competition here to give them a reason to implement DOCSIS 3.0.
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"If it can't be done with brains, it can't be done with hours" - Clarence "Kelly" Johnson

GeekJedi
RF is Good For You
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join:2001-06-21
Mukwonago, WI

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Re: Embarq NV

On the other hand I get 10000/768 from CenturyTel at my house, compared to the 8000/512 for the same price from Time Warner Cable.

Welcome to 2009?
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Time
Premium
join:2003-07-05
Irvine, CA

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Re: Embarq NV

said by GeekJedi:

On the other hand I get 10000/768 from CenturyTel at my house, compared to the 8000/512 for the same price from Time Warner Cable.

Welcome to 2009?
You live in a different city. I'm fairly sure the title of my post included "NV" as in Nevada, primarily Vegas, which has been a garbage telco market since the days of Sprint.
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"If it can't be done with brains, it can't be done with hours" - Clarence "Kelly" Johnson

GeekJedi
RF is Good For You
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join:2001-06-21
Mukwonago, WI

Re: Embarq NV

Oh, I can certainly read.

I mention it because I'm fairly sure that you've already passed judgment when CenturyTel is a much different (read better) company than Embarq.
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The goal of the broadcast engineer is to get all the meters on the transmitter to go as far to the right as possible!!

Time
Premium
join:2003-07-05
Irvine, CA

Re: Embarq NV

If they actually are better and can provide some competition for Cox, I'll be ecstatic. However, after years of nothing from both Sprint and Embarq, I'm sure you can understand why I'm skeptical.
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"If it can't be done with brains, it can't be done with hours" - Clarence "Kelly" Johnson

slappy white

join:2008-06-16
La Crosse, WI
Embarqs shortcomings in Vegas probably speak to the larger story of Embarqs problems. Maybe that is why they were acquired by a smaller company. I know CenturyTel currently has 10M and 20M products available in some of their larger markets...and by larger I mean large for them, nowhere near the size of Vegas. So CenturyTel seems to better understand serving urban markets...you may some worthy telco competition in your future after all.

Time
Premium
join:2003-07-05
Irvine, CA

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Re: Embarq NV

said by slappy white:

Embarqs shortcomings in Vegas probably speak to the larger story of Embarqs problems. Maybe that is why they were acquired by a smaller company. I know CenturyTel currently has 10M and 20M products available in some of their larger markets...and by larger I mean large for them, nowhere near the size of Vegas. So CenturyTel seems to better understand serving urban markets...you may some worthy telco competition in your future after all.
Forgive me if I'm skeptical, but Embarq (previously Sprint, atleast here) has been saying they plan to upgrade our dino city network for the longest. Meanwhile, our pals up in Reno are being fed U-Verse from AT&T. I'm jealous

Perhaps CenturyTel will upgrade, although it would appear that they have a long way to go. I'm hoping, based on the fact that CenturyTel is better with rural areas, that they'll just sell off the Vegas market.
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"If it can't be done with brains, it can't be done with hours" - Clarence "Kelly" Johnson

slappy white

join:2008-06-16
La Crosse, WI

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Re: Embarq NV

Anything is possible. They hooked some pretty big fish with Embarqs Vegas and Orlando markets. They appear to be more aggressive than most...maybe those were the big chips in the game they were looking for. It will take some time, but if they keep Vegas they would have to see the upside in getting them at least 10M or better. Good Luck with that!

edit: I just noticed your Air Force avatar. Thank You for your service.
hottboiinnc4
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: Embarq NV

They picked up a good chunk of Ohio with the purchase of Embarq as well.

dome

@centurytel.net
I live in a town of 3,000 and have fiber - 15/1...
DarnellP

join:2004-10-12
Las Vegas, NV
I get 10 Mbps DSL from Embarq at my location. Go figure...

That, of course, is slower than the Cox 16 Mbps premier package, but a hell of a lot better than 1.5 Mbps.

Go Tarheels
Premium
join:2006-01-05
Nashville, NC
kudos:1
The exact reason you are still on 1.5, was your expanding city. The techs couldn't lay the fiber fast enough. There have been A LOT of upgrades in Vegas. I know that doesn't mean much to you, but its not like the whole city was neglected. I know of a major upgrade in Vegas now that is upgrading 1000's of customers to different dslams.

fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
kudos:2

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Fiber to the home

I am in Embarq territory and I get 30/2 from the cable company which is why I'm not with Embarq (they only offer 5/896 DSL here). I am hearing that CenturyTel's idea of FTTH is 15/1 which is a downgrade from what I have.

Better make it worthwhile and beat that, with a better TV offering than the cable company and Dish/DirecTV.

IPTV is also not going to cut it, unless there is some method to connect TiVo DVRs and TVs with CableCARD slots like the cable company and Verizon does.

Learn from other companies - FiOS is how it's done. U-Verse is how it's not.
hottboiinnc4
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: Fiber to the home

But CT doesn't have a cap do they?

ArtfulDodger
It's an art form

join:2007-06-13
Los Angeles, CA
kudos:1

Re: Fiber to the home

No caps.
hottboiinnc4
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: Fiber to the home

so it would be a trade off for slower speeds for uncapped internet.

fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
kudos:2

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Re: Fiber to the home

said by hottboiinnc4:

so it would be a trade off for slower speeds for uncapped internet.
But if it's FTTH they can definitely offer 30M, 50M or even 100M speeds and definitely more than 1M upload.

I actually wouldn't mind 20/20 or even 20/5 or 15/5 speeds but not 15/1. I actually do need the 2M upload. More than that would be nice,

The other thing is that many of us have a significant investment (hundreds or thousands of dollars) in equipment such as TiVo DVRs and CableCARD ready TVs. Requiring a STB from the programming provider would be a step back. There are places in my house where I don't want a STB.
me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
said by ArtfulDodger:

No caps.
said by ArtfulDodger:

No caps.
Wow, cool. Just so cool. I hope I can get DSL from y'all soon.

dsldude08
Premium
join:2008-01-03
La Crosse, WI
kudos:2
But, then we have in the fiber areas now offering 20/3...so there you have a trade off too to decide on.
me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO

Re: Fiber to the home

There is a rumor that they are working on DSL line bonding up to 20/3, and with no cap from ether CT or embarq that = instawin. If they keep their no cap and continue to grow(in all areas not just rural/urban) I think there will be good times ahead for them.

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