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FCC Approves Frontier Acquisition of AT&T's CT Networks
by Karl Bode 11:13AM Monday Jul 28 2014
Regulators have formally approved Frontier's acquisition of AT&T's networks and operations in the state of Connecticut. According to an announcement by the companies, the $2 billion deal to acquire AT&T’s local wireline, broadband and video operations in Connecticut (originally announced last December) has received approval from the FCC. The deal has already received approval from the Depatment of Justice, but is still awaiting approval from Connecticut Public Utilities Regulatory Authority (PURA). AT&T is working to back away from millions of DSL users they don't want to upgrade under the guise of the "IP transition."

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Darknessfall
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Help!

SAVE US ALL!!!

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Mr Fel
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You're gonna survive it buddy!

Darknessfall
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Re: Help!

said by Mr Fel:

You're gonna survive it buddy!

"Gasps for air"
pandora
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Re: Help!

I left AT&T long ago, my sympathy for anyone still stuck with it.
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said by pandora:

I left AT&T long ago, my sympathy for anyone still stuck with it.

Well, U-verse in my opinion isn't as bad as people make it out to be. I actually liked it more than Comcast.
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I use Comcast for internet, and satellite for video. Increasingly we are migrating to a combination of Amazon and Netflix for video entertainment. Aside from local news, at this point, we could cut satellite service. My costs would be $70 for cable, $0 for phone, $12 for Netflix, and $100 per year plus whatever I wanted to buy from Amazon.

This past year, I purchased Agents of Shield, Person of Interest, and Big Bang Theory from Amazon. I wish Amazon had an autoplay for TV series the way Netflix does.
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I was looking at all of these online services, but I just can't see myself using them. A lot of the new content were movies/shows that were out for months/years.

We currently pay $109 for U300(390 channels) with 3 receivers + 23 Mbps download/2 up with the rental included(used to have 29/5 for $10 more) + U-verse voice.
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Older content is from Netflix for the most part, newer content is often available for a fee from Amazon. Agent's of Shield, Person of Interest, and Big Bang Theory were all about $3 per episode, but were available within hours of initial broadcast.
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"I left AT&T long ago, my sympathy for anyone still stuck with it"

Luckily for me, I can't even get AT&T here! Wouldn't use them even if they were the last of ANYTHING around

Unluckily for me, I can get Frontier, which I did have for 2 years about 5 years ago when Charter was still rather slow on their speed offerings compared to price. Charter still sucks on that one. Never had an issue with Frontiers service, but paying for a land line is just stupid, now a days! Frontier does not offer dry loop dsl here, so no chance of ever going back to them.

If it was still Verizon around here, they'd be another one I would never use again. Verizon and AT&T both suck a**!
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Re: Help!

We do offer Simply Broadband products (Dry Loop) price varies from 39.99-49.99 depending on the market. Give Frontier a call, see if we can get it switched aroung. -FrontierRep

Harold

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AMEN. I worked in the Connecticut company when it was SNET, a truly wonderful place. When I heard AT&T was coming, I ran to my boss with my retirement request and I am so happy I did.

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As weird as this sounds....

This could be a good thing in a bad way, if that even makes sense.
Those customers that AT&T was going to ditch in the "IP Transition" can now breath OK, broke Frontier is here to save the day somewhat, you get to keep your DSL forever (well, until Frontier goes under).

I am absolutely sure that AT&T took better care of the copper plant in CT than what VZ did in the areas they pawned off on Frontier back in 2008. An additional bonus is that Frontier will be inheriting U-Verse. Will they deploy U-Verse outside of CT? We will wait and see.

But be ready for months and months of transitional pain as Frontier monkeys with the backbone configuration, DSLAM configuration, and telephone switch configuration, as well as the rushed implementation of Customer Service and Billing systems.

Good luck to those of you in CT, you will need it.

Selenia
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Re: As weird as this sounds....

But but Frontier caps DSL like it's wireless.
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Re: As weird as this sounds....

nope
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1 recommendation

Can't speak for CT but vz all but ignores the copper in va

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Re: As weird as this sounds....

I back up your statement. Regardless if its in urban Northern VA, or the rural Southwest, VZ does not give a damn.

Trash bags are used for "repair". DSL is a rarity, 3mbit is a luxury. Little pockets of FIOS outside of Fairfax, Prince William, Eastern Loudoun, and Richmond.

Disgusting.

VA really is a Comcast/Cox state, since our "wonderful" ILEC VZ does not do anything outside of the limited FIOS deployment.




Those areas with CenturyLink as the incumbent are lucky - they will see slow improvement with time, while VZ areas deemed unworthy of FIOS will rapidly fall into nothingness.
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Frontier is busy upgrading their DSL networks with this buyout in mind. Many markets are being tested and more to expand into the new system which is IP based- and not ATM as aDSL is now.

Also Frontier is NOT going to close. They'd get a bailout the same as the automakers did- who still owe the money they were loaned- many of which didn't even pay the interest that was included.
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Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how this one plays out. Frontier sure has a weird hodge-podge of technology now.

Maybe they will actually start expanding U-Verse again. For the past year or so, it seems to be frozen, even in places with crossboxes that need a VRAD, but haven't gotten on yet.

As much as I hate U-Verse, at least it lights a fire under the butt of the cable cos...
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said by Zenit:

I am absolutely sure that AT&T took better care of the copper plant in CT than what VZ did in the areas they pawned off on Frontier back in 2008.

Nope. I left AT&T for Charter on the municipal account I'm in charge of because the plant in town was from the 1950's and constantly waterlogged, causing all sorts of issues... We had two FTE's doing nothing but troubleshooting phone issues across our 9 schools.
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Re: As weird as this sounds....

That's saying something. I've never really heard anyone speak positively of Charter!
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said by Zenit:

I am absolutely sure that AT&T took better care of the copper plant in CT than what VZ did in the areas they pawned off on Frontier back in 2008.

I would agree with you. Maybe that has something to do with the fact that CT is not a "classic" ATT system. This state was SNET until SBC/ATT came along with all these mergers. SNET spent big money running fiber everywhere and on upgrades... So our state is early 2000 vintage not 1950's vintage like all the old ATT states

Also AT&T bet big on UVerse here. If you stand on top of one VRAD you can see 2 more. They are selling 45meg. All the negativity I hear about it here is with ATT's policies,call centers, etc. Not so much technical complaints.
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Re: As weird as this sounds....

Not in my part of the state, although some places have a lot of them. Here in Groton, we have very few, but it might be because we have Thames Valley as an overbuilder, so they already have the "I want something that's not Comcast" market. Madison has relatively few, although it's more spread out than many parts of the state. I see a lot of them in Waterford, possibly because Metrocast is a very weak cable provider. I've also seen many of them in some of the more suburban towns in the central part of the state like Wallingford and Meriden...

What sucks is that they didn't do FTTH, since we're almost all aerial wiring, fiber would have been easy and fast.

I know a few people who have switched, one because of the price, one because of the Big10 network not being available on Cox.

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If PURA is smart

They'll say NO, fix your crap, you been paid more than enough to do that already and then some. 2$ billion seems rather cheap to me.
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Re: If PURA is smart

And AT&T can announce they wish to sell their network or shut it down. That clause works with both CLEC and ILEC in states. And DSL is not required to be offered.
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So, Frontier will now be dealing with so many different offerings:

Copper POTS, slow DSL, fiber FTTH (former Verizon FiOS in Oregon, Washington, Indiana, and Myrtle Beach) , fiber FTTN (former AT&T U-Verse in Connecticut), Dish Network(which FTR partners with now), and DirecTV(which Verizon partnered with in the former Verizon areas that Frontier acquired a few years ago, and some customers continue with now).

Sounds like a real dog's breakfast for the billing, help desk, and technical departments to deal with, to me.

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Re: So, Frontier will now be dealing with so many different offerings:

Not to mention the regulatory and infrastructure mess of having a hodgepodge of Bell, GTE, Contel, and legacy Citizens Tel regulations, procedures, standards, etc.

I.E Contel ped ID tags are labeled Lead, CO, Cable Footage. Bell ped ID tags are often just the nearest street address, sometimes with additional info on whats in the ped "LOAD" for load coil, "AIR PIPE" for air pressure monitoring point.

How can you standardize having so many different ways of doing things company wide? Impossible.
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Re: So, Frontier will now be dealing with so many different offerings:

said by Zenit:

How can you standardize having so many different ways of doing things company wide? Impossible.

No need to standardize unless you fire everyone and bring in your own people and gear. HR, customer service, billing etc. will be a challenge but they've done it before with the Verizon properties. Maggie stated somewhere that they considered the AT&T plant to be 95%. It will be interesting to see the reviews in three years.
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What's odd is...

on my road(in CT), AT&T has just begun digging to upgrade their lines. I'm a little surprised that if they are selling us, why they would bother to upgrade the lines at this point.
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Re: What's odd is...

Yeah, for some reason, they dug up parts of their 15-year-old (subdivision age) copper plant here and did something to it... no clue why. You'd think they'd lay down fiber while they were futzing around with it, but this is AT&T we're talking about...

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NE been "F'ddd"

F'ddd as in Frontier and Fairpointed.

Verizon and ATT laughing...no wait...snickering.
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Re: NE been "F'ddd"

Being Fairpointed really was not too bad for New England, all things considered.

Many areas that had no DSL or slow DSL suddenly got better service once Fairpoint got on its feet.

Members here reported this.

Its clear Verizon does not care - and they are indeed laughing and hand-rubbing to the bank with their partner-in-crime AT&T.
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U-Verse

I wonder if they are going to deploy U-Verse FTTN elsewhere, or even start running it on top of their ex-FIOS systems?

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frontier is not all bad

I have had frontier for almost 5 years now and can honestly say they are not that bad. when I first got them I had 1.5 down paying around $70 a month which was around the same I payed for 30/5 with fios back in New Jersey. yes I was very unhappy about the speed and price but now I pay about the same for 2 -6 Mbps down connections. still a little pricey but it is my only choice I have. they have improved the infrastructure without really having too.