  karpodiemHail to The Victors
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it takes a special type of personSeriously, how are these people able to lie as much as they do? Do they not know they are holding this country back by not treating internet access as a public utility? And don't throw that BS "the infrastructure in this country is failing" argument out - Yes, parts of the infrastructure in this country are failing because we've allowed far too much sprawl. Delivering FTTH and managing it is perhaps a bit more complicated than electricity or water, but it can be done. You're telling me the Australians (» en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Na ··· _Network) can do it, and we can't? *Edit - surprise, surprise, look at the group that derailed it - » spectrum.ieee.org/teleco ··· -project | |
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2014-Apr-30 4:41 pm
Re: it takes a special type of personsaid by karpodiem:Do they not know they are holding this country back by not treating internet access as a public utility? Oh, they know. They know and they don't care. They're more worried about themselves then the country. | |
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usa does not it a public utility because the the psc will tax and regulate it at a government level and there will be no slowing down the nsa at this point making it a public utility is the worst idea in needs to stay in the hands of individuals like it with the fcc making sure its managed properly I see the net neutrality issue but the point is they lie and say they need the bandwidth when they don't they throttle it back say its a congestion and either charge for caps or get Netflix google ect to pay them to remove the throttle | |
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2014-Apr-30 8:03 pm
Re: it takes a special type of personYou may have something worthwhile to say, but your lack of punctuation made my eyes bleed. | |
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Well of course..as a FCC chairman that is not interested in creating competition nor stopping ISP's from creating a tiered internet I would expect him to be no less blind and stupid to his comments. | |
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DSLReports Phantom CredibilityAT&T already has more customers passed by fiber in Austin after 6 months than Google does after 2 years in Kansas City. How exactly is this empty rhetoric? | |
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2014-Apr-30 4:46 pm
Re: DSLReports Phantom Credibilitysaid by Merlin37:AT&T already has more customers passed by fiber in Austin after 6 months than Google does after 2 years in Kansas City. How exactly is this empty rhetoric? 1) Yes, it does "pass" them. Right on by. Now if only AT&T could figure out how to splice into it so those customers could actually order service that would be great. 2) For the few people who can actually get it, it maxes out at 300/300 not 1000/1000 like Google. And the TV portion is still compressed to crap. 3) 6 months? Seriously? AT&T is just reworking their existing FTTP deployment, not doing a ground-up install. Things go a lot quicker when the fiber is already in the ground. While it is a good start, it's still WAY more fiber to the press release then fiber into the ground. | |
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I heard ATT has been offering Uverse in Austin for quite a while (years?) but that they just dropped the price on 300 when Google announced Austin. Not true?
ATT has probably been present in Austin for decades. Google is just now setting up shop that requires a lot of preliminary planning that ATT has probably had for decades. | |
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said by Merlin37:AT&T already has more customers passed by fiber in Austin after 6 months than Google does after 2 years in Kansas City. Do you have a source for this claim? | |
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Re: DSLReports Phantom CredibilityI'd like to see this verified as well. I doubt at&t is ready to deploy FTTH to the entire footprint they serve in Austin. | |
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said by fg8578:Do you have a source for this claim? He/she works for at&t... what can you expect from an at&t employee? | |
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Re: DSLReports Phantom Credibilitysaid by etaadmin:He/she works for at&t... what can you expect from an at&t employee? "Unnamed sources". Gotcha . . . | |
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said by etaadmin:He/she works for at&t... what can you expect from an at&t employee? The damn truth without all of this idiotic FUD for one thing. | |
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Re: DSLReports Phantom Credibilitysaid by Merlin37:said by etaadmin:He/she works for at&t... what can you expect from an at&t employee? The damn truth without all of this idiotic FUD for one thing. We've been reading all your at&t BS for years and I suppose we we'll continue to do so. The question is for which at&t department you work for? Eight years from now we'll be having this very same conversation on how at&t will bring gigapower to 100 cities, just like the last three or four years on that elusive uverse 55 Mbps plan. Karl is right... at&t is full of it. | |
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said by Merlin37:said by etaadmin:He/she works for at&t... what can you expect from an at&t employee? The damn truth without all of this idiotic FUD for one thing. And yet its still not true...... | |
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2014-Apr-30 5:00 pm
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Population:
Austin TX: 865,504
Kansas City MO: 464,310
You're right Google's had 4 times as long, but AT&T's also the incumbent and has infrastructure/set-ups in the area.
Not apples/apples comparison. | |
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Re: DSLReports Phantom CredibilityAnd they also did KC, KS, about 150K. KC is also very sprawled outside central KCMO. The area is huge. | |
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having fiber in a city is far different than wiring up FTTH in areas that aren't just high end greenfield housing developments.
It would be pretty big news to find out that AT&T is going to old housing developments in Austin that have copper lines and providing FTTH at any level of scale. Feel free to post pictures or stats showing that this is actively happening today... | |
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2014-Apr-30 8:06 pm
Re: DSLReports Phantom Credibilitysaid by sparc:having fiber in a city is far different than wiring up FTTH in areas that aren't just high end greenfield housing developments. I'm in a greenfield housing development with AT&T Uverse FTTH. I can get a whopping 18Mbps!  | |
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Karl is very biased when it comes to AT&T. Earth be damned that a company that size invests more in our US economy than any other company around. He is just as much anti AT&T as he accuses others of being pro.
Karl hates everything AT&T does, doesn't do and plans to do apparently. You won't hear him say that about Sprint's botched wireless network promises.
You can't come to this site to read anything objective. | |
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2014-Apr-30 10:26 pm
Re: DSLReports Phantom Credibilitysaid by cableco999 :Karl hates everything AT&T does, doesn't do and plans to do apparently. You won't hear him say that about Sprint's botched wireless network promises. With good reason. I used to work for them, and I can tell you they are a dinosaur that would rather astroturf and lobby than actually compete. | |
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fix wireline neutralitythe fcc/doj better get on the stick before wire line becomes like wireless data plans.
incumbent ISPs behaving badly is just the tip of the titanic.
once that's out of the way, then end incumbent monopoly franchises. perhaps two carriers for each major technology would be better... 2 cable carriers and 2 Telco carriers. IF any or all wanted to use a COMMON infrastructure on the last mile to save costs of deployment and/or work around physical infrastructure problems that would be a plus.
meanwhile many in the regulatory oversight & authority do nothing more than let the lobbying dollars keep flowing while neglecting the public interest (see first statement about net neutrality). | |
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What What I know is ATT is notorious for upgrading areas already with options and skipping by those with non (even non rural areas, big surprise!). Its like when they get close to building out again they come up with more magical bullcrap to start back in the city limits again and once again build up already broadband speed areas.. Specially if comcast or another competitor is in the area.. | |
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PowellI liked Colin Powell, but his kid is an asshole. | |
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