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FCC Cooking Up Better Speed Test Measurement Tools
Laments cable companies who complained about poor data, but wouldn't help...
by Karl Bode Monday 05-Apr-2010 tags: legal · competition · fcc · business · bandwidth · cable · consumers
Last month we noted how executives from a number of large cable companies recently stopped by the FCC to argue for better speed tests. Why were cable executives so concerned about giving consumers better tools to highlight the limitations of their connections? The executives took issue with a recent FCC report claiming that consumers are getting between 40% and 50% less speed than carriers advertise. The data the FCC used was provided by comScore, and the cable industry isn't alone in thinking that while there's a gap between advertised and delivered speeds, it's nowhere near that large.

Blogging over at the FCC broadband website, the FCC's Peter Bowen says the cable industry is being a little melodramatic with their complaints, however. According to the FCC, they weren't saying that this gap between advertised and delivered speeds is all the fault of the carriers. They were simply stating that end-user speeds are often much slower than advertised speeds, and that this can be confusing for less technical subscribers. The FCC's recent broadband plan proposed having carriers advertise both a connection's top speed, but also the average speed obtained by users.

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While the FCC did finally launch their own speed test recently, the data collected by it is not exactly scientifically sound; the collection tool failing to even to confirm that zip codes match towns or cities. Bowen pretty clearly states the FCC knows they'll need more comprehensive data on user speeds to inform policy decisions. The FCC is working on it, and does aim to emulate UK regulator Ofcom's approach to speed tests:

Besides, the FCC is, in fact, putting in place testing to measure absolute provider speeds -- an important and related issue, but a separate issue. In 2009 the UK regulator published a report noting that actual speeds delivered by ISP’s were roughly 57% of the advertised speeds and even lower at peak times, and we aim to replicate their approach and make our results available to the public this year. So a few weeks ago, we put out bids, which I blogged about on March 15, to hire a firm to independently test these absolute speeds. We look forward to getting that information.

Bowen goes on to note that while the cable industry spent a lot of effort complaining in a recent filing, they haven't exactly been helpful in terms of providing the FCC with better data than they've been complaining about:

providers have had a chance to provide us with more data themselves over the last 6 months. Back in September, we asked providers for better data to refine the comScore analysis – new facts and figures, rather than rhetoric and empty attack. NCTA suggests flaws in the advertised speeds of comScore, but ISPs have and could provide data (in aggregate) on the advertised speeds of their consumers to bolster or refine comScore, Form 477 and other data that the commission relies upon. But no provider has stepped forward.

So while cable carriers complained about the FCC's speed data, they weren't exactly going out of their way to help. Of course, providing data to the FCC highlighting speed discrepancies would also highlight deployment and competitive discrepancies most industry executives pretend don't exist. Meanwhile, cable carriers may not be all that glad they've been pushing for a more UK/Ofcom style approach to speed tests, given those tests (in conjunction with speed testing outfit SamKnows) also highlight a very significant gap between advertised and delivered speeds.

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axus

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Speedburst helps these tests :)

The Comcast speed burst always made them look great when I had them in Maryland. A "better" test would collect data over a longer period of time, but that would be more annoying than a quick test.

Speed burst was pretty nice for me, since I don't have downloads running all the time, I think they should get some credit for stuff like that, but also measure the speed after 30 minutes or so.

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Re: Speedburst helps these tests :)

said by axus:

... but also measure the speed after 30 minutes or so.
I would like to see a REAL speed test. One which aggregates speeds over a 24 hour period of normal use. A background task should be able to do this easily, giving us a real measure of our speed based on how we individually use the net. That would tell us a lot more than a small window in time test.

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ISP saving money

For most ISP's to fully provide the services they "claim" to provide to EVERY customer, they would need to update and repair their complete network systems.

So of course big business is going to cry like little children when it is pointed out that the systems in some places which are 10+ years old max out at 10mb (example) and they offer 15mb downloads.

Of course there is the amount of customers who maybe "linked up" to those networks and are over sold. So the system maybe able to provide as advertised, but not with the amount of people using it at any given time.

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axiomatic

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Huh?

"They were simply stating that end-user speeds are often much slower than advertised speeds, and that this can be confusing for less technical subscribers."

Then demystify it cable co's. The onus is on you. You can not hide behind your inability to explain things.

Yes, us network specialists understand that its congestion in the neighborhood not in the back haul. But that does not absolve your requirement to explain it.

What I know they want to avoid is that if they explain that its congestion in the neighborhood. Consumers will ask for better hardware in the last mile and now the cable co is on the hook for $$$ for newer equipment.

So basically we are back to the cable co not maintaining their gear to satisfy the needs of the community again. Which is again their fault.
dancekat1

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Re: Huh?

We have that problem in north Chicago where AT&T network "redback" routers are running at high utilization loads. Redback routers" are access concentration nodes in the local neighborhood. In order to get decent speeds I had to get AT&T to switch my assignment to one with a low utilization.

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ISPs don't like speed test data?

Put a speed test site at every headend/CO, or even just every gateway (on your own network, for your own customers)--put your speed test site where your mouth is.
dancekat1

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Forget "speed" tests, throughput is what counts

Short, flash based "speed burst" tests lasting 5-10 seconds do not tell the whole story. I have a 6mb line that bursts for 1-3 seconds at full speed but AT&T caps the throughput at around 600k to 700k. makes downloading even smallish files hellish.
Comcast does the same thing although it's not as bad. It's deceptive advertising to claim somebody can download a file at 6mb but then cap the sustained throughput. And yes, I spoke with senior management at AT&T who said that the 700k sustained transfer is normal for my class of service. 1. Don't use flash speed tests, only java. 2. Use a test that uses sustained transfer. The Las Vegas speed test is one of them but the long tests are unavailable to non-subscribers.

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More Pointlessness

The more the FCC tries to cook up a better speed test, the more ISPs will cook their own infrastructure to make themselves look like they perform decently. Surely someone at the FCC must know how these sorts of things work.

Why doesn't the FCC tackle an issue that actually affects people, such as, for example, non-government-imposed hidden fees that are tacked on to every broadband suscriber's bill. Why doesn't the FCC use its granted enforcement powers to force ISPs (and other subscription-based telecom businesses) to disclose the costs of these fees upfront to potential customers so that they can make informed purchasing decisions? Isn't the type of false advertising that these busineses do on a regular basis a crime?

In the end, no one is going to give a rat's rear end about FCC-approved speed tests, especially since the results can be so easily maniuplated.
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Re: More Pointlessness

Amen!
WernerSchutz

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Re: More Pointlessness

I second that !
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Important Point well made!
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isp speed test

yeah i tested of my isp would do the spend that i am paying for and they did. now the isp before this lied and was going to do it for 50 bucks more..... so a switch . also they where overcharging me to . i fully know that what is ad and what you can get is 2 different things. isp wont tell you and charge you for it

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Poor Uncle Sam wants help?

I think the speed tools there are atrocious. Here is some help. While they are old, they could rent the Java speed test from here =p Maybe include some bigger file sizes by default so that the Powerboost passes and the real speed shows. The first measurements would also show the Powerboost speed results. Just doesn't seem that hard to me. Speedtest.net's tools are also more accurate, though don't do anything about finding out non-Powerboost speeds. Ookla lets other sites host those on a regular basis.
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