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Deniedmost cities will stamp DENIED on everything. | |
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FFH5
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2009-Nov-18 5:51 pm
Re: Deniedsaid by hottboiinnc4:most cities will stamp DENIED on everything. The "we want it, but NIMBY syndrome". They all whine about cell coverage, but as soon as a spot is picked, all the people who want better coverage are up in arms BECAUSE IT IS TOO NEAR THEM. | |
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2009-Nov-18 7:18 pm
Re: Deniedsaid by FFH5:said by hottboiinnc4:most cities will stamp DENIED on everything. The "we want it, but NIMBY syndrome". They all whine about cell coverage, but as soon as a spot is picked, all the people who want better coverage are up in arms BECAUSE IT IS TOO NEAR THEM. NIMBY: because we want the modern life as long as we dont have to see the back feed. on a side note id love to see someone building a big housing development get cell towers into it(in a town that is a near total deadzone) and then when they put the ads up for the homes "Full 3g Cell coverage if you live here, no dead zones" though worded more salesman like. | |
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Hey, if Clearwire wants to build a tower on my property, just make sure they've got the entennas downtilted enough so that I can get service. Or, better yet, share their backhaul feed with me. I have no problem with a tower in my back yard if it means better broadband, though cell coverage for me on 3G techs (except CricKet) is just fine. | |
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|  PortmonkeyMy watch stopped
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A new cell tower would be nice for this little town, but I doubt it'll happen anytime soon, if ever. I'm not exactly sure how things work around here but someone mentioned that the people voted no to a cell tower shortly before I moved into town. I've never seen more than one bar and don't feel like climbing a tree for decent reception. Hopefully, these new rules will help some people. Sometimes when I step outside in the evening I can see more than a couple neighbors doing the I can't get a cellphone signal dance. It's almost comical then I think gee whiz, some of these people are probably the same ones that voted no for a new tower.  | |
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2009-Nov-18 10:07 pm
Re: DeniedHmm, microcells? Femtocells? | |
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said by hottboiinnc4:most cities will stamp DENIED on everything. They are waiting for you to deliver a suitcase of unmarked bills to the mayor's aide. | |
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said by hottboiinnc4:most cities will stamp DENIED on everything. Stamping "denied" is better than the stall tactics used by many states and municipalities. When an app is denied that pretty much clears the way for it to go to court. When it goes to court, the municipalities usually lose, and it costs a great deal of money. Your money. Municipalities should do the right thing and work with the wireless carriers to have the applications approved in a timely fashion. The stall tactics just won't fly anymore. | |
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2009-Nov-19 5:24 pm
Re: Deniedand when the people cry about the towers they need to be reminded that if we dont build them they will cry about "my iPhone isnt locking on in 3g". | |
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So, say Yes or No? :)As I understand it, the clock limit just forces municipalities to say Yes or No. Which is much better than a year of "Oh well, we're not really sure, maybe we should think about all the irradiated deer it will bring to our area, let us think a bit longer" (or what else can one think about for a year)
And if they do drag it out, then court will decide if the tower will be built. Sounds fair to me.
p.s. It's interesting that now they can't deny the petition just because "service is available from another provider". So if, say T-Mobile decides to ask local municipality to build a tower, they can't be denied permit solely on the grounds that there is an AT&T service in the area | |
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Re: So, say Yes or No? :)if the Cities were smart, they'd build their own towers and then lease them out. That's what my City has done. The City owns a 300+ foot tower that is next to the Police and Fire departments. VZW, ATT, Sprint and many others are co-located on it. The City Schools did the same thing. They put up 400+ foot stadium lighting pools and leased out the extra space to the cell companies. | |
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2009-Nov-18 5:52 pm
Re: So, say Yes or No? :)said by hottboiinnc4:if the Cities were smart, they'd build their own towers and then lease them out. That's what my City has done. The City owns a 300+ foot tower that is next to the Police and Fire departments. VZW, ATT, Sprint and many others are co-located on it. The City Schools did the same thing. They put up 400+ foot stadium lighting pools and leased out the extra space to the cell companies. This is actually the norm in many cities. Wireless carriers do not own the towers, rather they lease space off those towers. | |
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2009-Nov-18 6:06 pm
Re: So, say Yes or No? :)said by Robert:This is actually the norm in many cities. Wireless carriers do not own the towers, rather they lease space off those towers. These are the companies that control a very large majority of the cell towers; which they lease space on to the cell providers. » www.cellularphonenews.co ··· ower.htm | |
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2009-Nov-18 6:27 pm
Re: So, say Yes or No? :)So, if you own land that has a hill overlooking an area and interstate maybe you should check into what you could make by building a tower on it.  Around here it's commonplace to see Cell equipment added onto Water towers, tall buildings, etc | |
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2009-Nov-18 7:10 pm
Re: So, say Yes or No? :)said by KrK:So, if you own land that has a hill overlooking an area and interstate maybe you should check into what you could make by building a tower on it. Around here it's commonplace to see Cell equipment added onto Water towers, tall buildings, etc in the right area a cell company will pay you good money for a remote section of your hill. i have heard numbers over $1500 a month some cell carriers are willing to pay if the location is good. | |
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said by KrK:So, if you own land that has a hill overlooking an area and interstate maybe you should check into what you could make by building a tower on it. The NIMBYs will cry that you are "blocking their view" and "spoiling the mountain." They conveniently ignore the fact that it is YOUR property and you should be free to do with it what you see fit, with reasonable restrictions for health and safety of course. | |
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The list must be ranked by number of sites and the first two are the big ones. I can understand being harder on new tower sites but adding equipment to an existing tower should only need to meet inspection standards if the tower company wants to do business with a company.
For new towers use the existing tall structures as you guys pointed out. With a little creative work you can make the antennas blend in with a structure like a church steeple or water tower. I would almost rather see a normal tower then the fake tree towers that are much taller then the normal pine and oak trees. They stick out like a sore thumb. | |
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io chico
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2009-Nov-22 9:57 am
Fake trees?They're fake? Actually, I love those fake trees. Maybe it's because the first one I ever saw was while on vacation in Maui...or was it Kauai? Either. Now I smile at the thought of one. We must have taller trees here. I only knew of the tree tower when it was in the local paper, giving the address in Paradise, CA. I drove by and couldn't see it amongst the trees. | |
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said by FFH5:said by Robert:This is actually the norm in many cities. Wireless carriers do not own the towers, rather they lease space off those towers. These are the companies that control a very large majority of the cell towers; which they lease space on to the cell providers. » www.cellularphonenews.co ··· ower.htm Around here Verizon (Cellco partnership dba Verizon wireless) owns the towers. They do lease space to other carriers, because the town requires colocation first before building new towers. | |
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2009-Nov-18 9:28 pm
GoodI'd love to see a cell tower go up in my back yard. I can't get service for squat and I live in the city. Verizon, Sprint, Nextel, AT&T, they all suck at home. | |
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Re: GoodThey should make the carrier complete the site within a certain time also. Seen a few sites up this way that are approved, work started then stop for 6 months. A year later, it is on the air. | |
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2009-Nov-19 8:59 am
Good idea, bad implementationThis sounds like a good idea, but Uncle Sam does not have that right to come in and overstep local municipalities rights to zone how they see fit.
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Re: Good idea, bad implementationsaid by Derek_4484 :
This sounds like a good idea, but Uncle Sam does not have that right to come in and overstep local municipalities rights to zone how they see fit. They absolutely DO have the right. Precedent has been set on this already. | |
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Robotics
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2009-Nov-19 10:19 am
Id Like To See This HappenI would like to see this happen. We have two towers in our town (which for the longest time has been spotty coverage), that have been sitting there for a little over a year. Just the towers, and at the base of the locations the electric panels/meters are already there. No building(s) though. Course I'm not sure who is holding up what in getting the job done. I do know One tower had to go back to zoning (or something) due to someone realized the tower would have to be an additional 50 feet higher. Over all, Ive seen similar things like this through out my travels, and feel this just might be a good idea to have in the long wrong. Just my opinion  Good subject. | |
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