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FCC Makes Neutrality Rules Official
Cue The Lawsuits, Renewed Hysteria
by Karl Bode 04:37PM Tuesday Sep 20 2011
The push for any meaningful network neutrality consumer protections is essentially dead, with the remaining partisan bickering over killing off already fairly-hollow and loophole-filled FCC rules being little more than twitching and showmanship for constituents. The neutrality rules the FCC has been cooking up have countless, intentional glaring holes including a failure to cover wireless networks, and were effectively crafted with little serious consumer input.

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Last Friday the Federal Communications Commission sent its net neutrality rules to the Federal Register for publication. Official publication of the rules by the Federal Register usually takes anywhere between one to three weeks, after which sixty days must pass for the rules to become official.

Over the next few months you can expect companies like Verizon to file suit against the FCC. Verizon tried to sue the agency earlier, but their lawyers were slapped down for being a bit premature and over eager. Given that the rules the FCC is passing are essentially based on guidelines proposed by Verizon and Google, Verizon isn't opposed to the specific rules -- but they do want to ensure the FCC has little to no long-term authority.

"We are deeply concerned by the FCC's assertion of broad authority for sweeping new regulation of broadband networks and the Internet itself," Verizon said after their initial lawsuit. "We believe this assertion of authority goes well beyond any authority provided by Congress, and creates uncertainty for the communications industry, innovators, investors and consumers."

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kapil
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Oh Noes!

Obviously we have a regulator in the marketplace snatching up all the certainty! They're regulating everybody out here! Hide your kids, hide your wives!
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R4M0N
Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo

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My problem with Net Neutrality

is that the government's idea of net neutrality is only similar to the average Joe's idea of net neutrality in its name.

Our idea of net neutrality can be summed up in one sentence: All traffic should be treated equally regardless of origin, content, etc...

The government's idea of net neutrality is to tell a business what kind of rubber the tires on the trucks that lay down the fiber optic cable must use in order to decrease wear on federal highways and minimize carbon output, among thousands of other completely unrelated crap. All neatly packaged on a bill named "Net Neutrality act" or something similar.

And that's not even taking into account the ISP's definition of net neutrality which is a whole different animal altogether...
rdmiller

join:2005-09-23
Richmond, VA

Re: My problem with Net Neutrality

Chuckle.
Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
Im not sure where you are coming up with this none sense.

Please provide some "facts" that show they want to dictate the rubber or any other metaphoric example you want to come up with.

R4M0N
Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo

join:2000-10-04
Glen Allen, VA

Re: My problem with Net Neutrality

said by Skippy25:

Im not sure where you are coming up with this none sense.

Please provide some "facts" that show they want to dictate the rubber or any other metaphoric example you want to come up with.

It seems rdmiller, Darth Vader, and Austinloop were quite able to discern my attempt at using exaggeration to point out that the government never makes a regulation without adding a myriad of other unrelated rules. I thought my example was incredible enough to make that clear. Guess I was wrong.
hottboiinnc
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Yep!

The lawsuits will start and will hit. The FCC again; over stepped their boundaries. If they wanted to create this they need to ask Congress for the authority to regulate the Internet so we can be taxed on that too. After all it will help balance the budget a little bit.

R4M0N
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Re: Yep!

said by hottboiinnc:

The lawsuits will start and will hit. The FCC again; over stepped their boundaries. If they wanted to create this they need to ask Congress for the authority to regulate the Internet so we can be taxed on that too. After all it will help balance the budget a little bit.

Right... Because they would never just get the extra money and blow it on something else.
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KrK
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It's pretty obvious by the fail state of broadband in the USA the FCC has the authority---- to do nothing at all.

Oh_No
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said by hottboiinnc:

The lawsuits will start and will hit. The FCC again; over stepped their boundaries. If they wanted to create this they need to ask Congress for the authority to regulate the Internet so we can be taxed on that too. After all it will help balance the budget a little bit.

The FCC has the authority to regulate all forms of interstate and international communications.
The internet is a form of interstate and international communication.
Congress gave them the power back in 1934 with the "Communications Act of 1934".

Kommie
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Re: Yep!

But Oh No. This is Socialism. The FCC(Guberment) is stifling employment and free markets with its evil Obama Regulations!!!

//Sarcasam

FFH
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Re: Yep!

said by Kommie:

But Oh No. This is Socialism. The FCC(Guberment) is stifling employment and free markets with its evil Obama Regulations!!!

//Sarcasam

//truth
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Kommie
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Re: Yep!

said by FFH:

said by Kommie:

But Oh No. This is Socialism. The FCC(Guberment) is stifling employment and free markets with its evil Obama Regulations!!!

//Sarcasam

//truth

Your truth is an illusion.

Oh_No
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join:2011-05-21
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What a stupid comment!

said by verizon :
"We are deeply concerned by the FCC's assertion of broad authority for sweeping new regulation of broadband networks and the Internet itself," Verizon said after their initial lawsuit. "We believe this assertion of authority goes well beyond any authority provided by Congress, and creates uncertainty for the communications industry, innovators, investors and consumers."
Wow, I cant believe they would say this stuff.

FCC and congress absolutely can regulate interstate and international communication. You cant argue this.
It also takes away uncertainty. It make the industry more stable as it would prevent ISPs from lying and only offering limited internet. Everyone will have to offer the same internet.

Verizon is ran by morons.
WHT

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Re: What a stupid comment!

said by Oh_No:

Verizon is ran by morons.

No...It's run by the short-term investors.
openbox9
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Re: What a stupid comment!

No, it's run by managers looking to grow shareholder value (not just traders).

i1me2ao
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TEXAS

Re: What a stupid comment!

30 years that was accurate, verizon is run by exec milking short term investments and raping the company. they are no different than any other company.

when a bunch of of international companies want the same law passed it needs to be really investigated..
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openbox9
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Re: What a stupid comment!

said by i1me2ao:

verizon is run by exec milking short term investments and raping the company.

If that were true at all, VZ wouldn't be investing in FTTH and LTE upgrades.

i1me2ao
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Re: What a stupid comment!

i did not say they were not planning for the future at all and future income. but when you break it down execs are only worried about exec bonuses and the trickle down to stock holders..
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openbox9
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Re: What a stupid comment!

said by i1me2ao:

i did not say they were not planning for the future at all and future income. but when you break it down execs are only worried about exec bonuses and the trickle down to stock holders.

So which is it? Investing in the company and planning for the future or worrying about stock options and returning value to shareholders? Hint, it's both

Shy Poster

@123.136.101.x

The devil is in the details

Just because it's called "net neutrality" we're assuming it has something to do with making sure traffic is not interfered with. Actually, government acts are usually named oppositely from their effect. Hence the "jobs act" destroys jobs, the "patriot act" makes patriotism a crime, the "affordable housing act" puts the cost of housing out of reach, etc.

I suspect this "net neutrality" rule will turn out to be an arrow aimed at the heart of any ISP who tries to provide quality service and compete with the large incumbents. Like most captured regulators, the FCC is more concerned with protecting the turf of incumbents than it is spurring competition or innovation.

Politics

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Bob Gibson on Net Neutrality

On the subject of net neutrality, Bob Gibson, Executive Director of the University of Virginia’s Sorensen Institute for Political Leadership, recently said: “It’s a debate that is going on in the Congress, and it’s really: Is the Internet going to be something that everyone has free and open access to, or, is it going to be something that is sort of controlled? What we don’t need is a lot of government control in the businesses of the internet. I think what we need is more of what we have with National Public Radio, which is a really true and balanced set of reporting that unfortunately has become politicized. What we are seeing is a shift from “anything goes” on the Internet to a shift where major corporations are shaping the news outlets and buying up more and more of the news outlets and putting them under corporate control and one set of a small number of hands.... We need freeware, we need shareware, and we need open access. People need to be able to trust sources that they can find on the internet, rather than have them controlled in a small number of hands or by the government.” (Gibson appeared on the Charlottesville, VA, politics interview program Politics Matters with host and producer Jan Madeleine Paynter discussing journalism »bit.ly/pm-gibson)

Bill Neilson
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Sounds about right. Verizon and others want to make

sure that they can continue with zero authority above them so they cant be slapped down for their faults.

Some will cry about how the "government is getting involved" when in reality, we are just talking about simple rules.

How such rules have now become over-exaggerated...is laughable