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FCC Opposes Fake Steve Jobs' AT&T DDoS
Urges public to use 'common sense and good judgment'
by Karl Bode Friday 18-Dec-2009 tags: business · wireless · bandwidth
Fake Steve Jobs (journalist Dan Lyons) recently proposed that iPhone users today at 3PM EST begin gobbling up as much bandwidth as possible -- in protest of AT&T's shoddy 3G network performance. AT&T has since called the joke "irresponsible and pointless," and now even the FCC has chimed in on "Operation Chokehold." "To purposely try to disrupt or negatively impact a network with ill-intent is irresponsible and presents a significant public safety concern," the FCC tells ABC News. It added that "threats of this nature are serious, and we caution the public to use common sense and good judgment." Even Lyons seems to be backing away from the campaign, though judging from comments to his post by his blog's readers, AT&T users may not be listening.

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Fake Steve Jobs weasling - worried about legal charges?

When the FCC started condemning him I guess he heard footsteps and started worrying about legal consequences. So now he says I didn't really mean it. Other than AT&T, I guess he is first in line hoping his DDOS request fails miserably.

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Re: Fake Steve Jobs weasling - worried about legal charges?

What legal consequences? And for what, exactly? Paying customers using services they are charged very good money for?

Maybe AT&T should look at the billions in profits it's been raking in and spend some of it on its network.

And the FCC should be ashamed...had it not been asleep at the wheel, allowing the nation's infrastructure to be driven into a ditch by greedy corporations, we wouldn't be having this conversation today.
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said by kapil:

What legal consequences?
How about a class action lawsuit against him for anyone not reaching 911 fast enough and dying or suffering medical consequences? Of course that lawsuit could include AT&T too. But he wouldn't be left out of it.

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said by ThrowDemsOut:

How about a class action lawsuit against him for anyone not reaching 911 fast enough and dying or suffering medical consequences? Of course that lawsuit could include AT&T too. But he wouldn't be left out of it.
1. Class action lawsuits don't work that way.

2. Data traffic won't impact voice traffic, unless their network is horribly configured.

3. Even then, 911 calls have priority over regular voice traffic.

4. There is a lot of legal fine print in wireless agreements about how 911 on a wireless phone is not a fail-proof thing.

I suspect you know most if not all of the above. But let's not let facts get in the way of a religious argument.
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said by kapil:

said by ThrowDemsOut:

How about a class action lawsuit against him for anyone not reaching 911 fast enough and dying or suffering medical consequences? Of course that lawsuit could include AT&T too. But he wouldn't be left out of it.
1. Class action lawsuits don't work that way.

2. Data traffic won't impact voice traffic, unless their network is horribly configured.

3. Even then, 911 calls have priority over regular voice traffic.

4. There is a lot of legal fine print in wireless agreements about how 911 on a wireless phone is not a fail-proof thing.

I suspect you know most if not all of the above. But let's not let facts get in the way of a religious argument.
And none of what you say would prevent the filing of a lawsuit. And it costs money to defend against, even if you are in the right. AT&T has plenty of money to fight back. Does Fake Steve Jobs?
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said by ThrowDemsOut:

And none of what you say would prevent the filing of a lawsuit. And it costs money to defend against, even if you are in the right. AT&T has plenty of money to fight back. Does Fake Steve Jobs?
You are right. And given the fact that AT&T, when presented with two options will always pick the wrong one, they may very well end up suing. Just like they pursued the Verizon coverage ads. However that, just like the Verizon matter, would be very ill advised. I'm no AT&T fan, but I sure hope they have someone in their marketing or PR department with enough common sense to not extend this matter past its internet-meme shelf life.
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said by kapil:

I'm no AT&T fan, but I sure hope they have someone in their marketing or PR department with enough common sense to not extend this matter past its internet-meme shelf life.
they don't... they like turning little flames into giant raging forest fires.
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said by ThrowDemsOut:

And none of what you say would prevent the filing of a lawsuit. And it costs money to defend against, even if you are in the right. AT&T has plenty of money to fight back. Does Fake Steve Jobs?
and there it is in a nutshell folks - how things work in the U.S.

don't like what a customer says about your network - sue their @ss!

don't like a competitor offering a better product for a lower price - sue their @ss!

they don't have to be right, they don't even have to have a case; if you can't afford to fight it, you're toast!

justice ain't cheap in the U.S. - it's for those that can afford it.
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Re: Fake Steve Jobs weasling - worried about legal charges?

said by nasadude:

said by ThrowDemsOut:

And none of what you say would prevent the filing of a lawsuit. And it costs money to defend against, even if you are in the right. AT&T has plenty of money to fight back. Does Fake Steve Jobs?
and there it is in a nutshell folks - how things work in the U.S.

don't like what a customer says about your network - sue their @ss!
Huge difference between not liking what they say and the "customer" leading an effort to taking the network down.
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Re: Fake Steve Jobs weasling - worried about legal charges?

"Huge difference between not liking what they say and the "customer" leading an effort to taking the network down."

But that begs the question: how COULD the customers take it down unless the owners had oversold the thing to begin with? If everyone who paid for service to the network decided to actually use that service at the same time and the network fails, I have to blame the owners and not the folks who chose to use what they paid for.
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said by Desdinova:

"Huge difference between not liking what they say and the "customer" leading an effort to taking the network down."

But that begs the question: how COULD the customers take it down unless the owners had oversold the thing to begin with? If everyone who paid for service to the network decided to actually use that service at the same time and the network fails, I have to blame the owners and not the folks who chose to use what they paid for.
EVERY company oversells the network.
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Re: Fake Steve Jobs weasling - worried about legal charges?

I have no doubt that they do. I'm just suggesting that they need to take responsibility for that when it bites them in the ass.

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said by ThrowDemsOut:

said by kapil:

What legal consequences?
How about a class action lawsuit against him for anyone not reaching 911 fast enough and dying or suffering medical consequences? Of course that lawsuit could include AT&T too. But he wouldn't be left out of it.
It won't affect voice, only data. So anyone who needs to call 911 they will be able to. Think about it.. ever been in an area where there was NO DATA but only voice? The cell phone still works.
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Re: Fake Steve Jobs weasling - worried about legal charges?

said by Rob:

said by ThrowDemsOut:

said by kapil:

What legal consequences?
How about a class action lawsuit against him for anyone not reaching 911 fast enough and dying or suffering medical consequences? Of course that lawsuit could include AT&T too. But he wouldn't be left out of it.
It won't affect voice, only data. So anyone who needs to call 911 they will be able to. Think about it.. ever been in an area where there was NO DATA but only voice? The cell phone still works.
And when data overloads the backhaul? You think voice calls won't be dropped? It happens all the time with AT&T and with many here complaining about just that problem.
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Re: Fake Steve Jobs weasling - worried about legal charges?

said by ThrowDemsOut:

And when data overloads the backhaul? You think voice calls won't be dropped? It happens all the time with AT&T and with many here complaining about just that problem.
Again, wireless networks don't work that way. There is a technical reason that won't happen unless, once again, AT&T has idiots building its network.
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And when data overloads the backhaul? You think voice calls won't be dropped? It happens all the time with AT&T and with many here complaining about just that problem.
If AT&T setup their network correctly, then no, that shouldn't happen.

In fact, if it DOES happen, then it's a good thing that Fake Steve Jobs has encouraged this chokehold movement. Maybe we can finally see how reliable AT&T network is and if it's setup correctly.
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Re: Fake Steve Jobs weasling - worried about legal charges?

Totally agreed. T minus 2 hours and 15 minutes until I see what AT&T's network is made of around here. FWIW, AT&T isn't NEAR as congested down here as it is in some areas in the Denver metro. As in, full signal (-65 RSSI) and still can't break 800 kbps congested.

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said by iansltx:

Totally agreed. T minus 2 hours and 15 minutes until I see what AT&T's network is made of around here. FWIW, AT&T isn't NEAR as congested down here as it is in some areas in the Denver metro. As in, full signal (-65 RSSI) and still can't break 800 kbps congested.
Chances are the network will not crash, and AT&T will put out press releases congratulating themselves for an awesomeness network.
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Yep.

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said by Rob:

Chances are the network will not crash, and AT&T will put out press releases congratulating themselves for an awesomeness network.
Chances are the network will crash, and AT&T will still put out press releases congratulating themselves for an awesomeness network.
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said by funchords:

said by Rob:

Chances are the network will not crash, and AT&T will put out press releases congratulating themselves for an awesomeness network.
Chances are the network will crash, and AT&T will still put out press releases congratulating themselves for an awesomeness network.
LOL. They know how to turn shit into gold, I give them credit for that.
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said by ThrowDemsOut:

said by kapil:

What legal consequences?
How about a class action lawsuit against him for anyone not reaching 911 fast enough and dying or suffering medical consequences? Of course that lawsuit could include AT&T too. But he wouldn't be left out of it.
Does eating up the bandwidth really affect phone calls? Seems like AT&T would be liable as that means at anytime their 911 service (or phone) would go down if everyone got online and started downloading regardless if someone told them or not.
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said by knightmb:

said by ThrowDemsOut:

said by kapil:

What legal consequences?
How about a class action lawsuit against him for anyone not reaching 911 fast enough and dying or suffering medical consequences? Of course that lawsuit could include AT&T too. But he wouldn't be left out of it.
Does eating up the bandwidth really affect phone calls? Seems like AT&T would be liable as that means at anytime their 911 service (or phone) would go down if everyone got online and started downloading regardless if someone told them or not.
All I know is that my brother & his wife have AT&T and they drop calls all the time. And it is usually when they are in or near a major college campus in Phlia where heavy data usage would be expected. Maybe it is a coincidence, but I think not. And it happens with both an iPhone and an LG feature phone
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said by ThrowDemsOut:

All I know is that my brother & his wife have AT&T and they drop calls all the time. And it is usually when they are in or near a major college campus in Phlia where heavy data usage would be expected. Maybe it is a coincidence, but I think not. And it happens with both an iPhone and an LG feature phone
Chances are that if this a truly "major college campus", then they would have wifi for their students, so I'm going to say that it's just a coincidence.
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Just because wifi is available doesn't mean most of the phones would be using it. First of all, the LARGE majority of iphone users probably wouldn't know to even try setting up their phone to work on the college campus. Second, there really isn't much of a point to do it anyway. When I was in college I used my phones data even though wifi was available, wasn't worth the effort of switching to it.
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If it's a college campus, the college 99.99% likely has WiFi, and all the iPhones would be happily chugging away on the campus's WiFi network. Voice is another matter...if there are a LOT of people using AT&T phones the voice network might actually be overloaded. Different problem altogether and won't be impacted either way by Chokehold.

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if anything this is a digital protest, the constitution grants us citizens the right to gather protest which is basically what lyons wants for users who pay for a service to protest by showing that the att network sucks. If the data traffic effects voice calls, and someone couldnt think through, well then apparently att needs to beef up the service because they couldnt supply a service which they promise to provide.
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what is the dsifference between this and a ddos attack ?

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Re: Fake Steve Jobs weasling - worried about legal charges?

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-···e_attack

A denial-of-service attack (DoS attack) or distributed denial-of-service attack (DDoS attack) is an attempt to make a computer resource unavailable to its intended users.
In this case, there is no "attack", the intended users are merely using the services they pay for.
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»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-···e_attack

A denial-of-service attack (DoS attack) or distributed denial-of-service attack (DDoS attack) is an attempt to make a computer resource unavailable to its intended users.
In this case, there is no "attack", the intended users are merely using the services they pay for.
No they aren't merely using the service. Their(and his encouragement) INTENT is a key factor in any court case.
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said by ThrowDemsOut:

]No they aren't merely using the service.
Oh, No? Are they all chanting "Kali Ma. Kali Ma" around a circle of fire, hoping to defeat the evil that is AT&T? Don't be silly. They are using services they are paying for. It's just that simple
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What legal consequences? And for what, exactly? Paying customers using services they are charged very good money for?

Maybe AT&T should look at the billions in profits it's been raking in and spend some of it on its network.

And the FCC should be ashamed...had it not been asleep at the wheel, allowing the nation's infrastructure to be driven into a ditch by greedy corporations, we wouldn't be having this conversation today.
It is in the, in my opinion worthless, TOS that states that if you harm the network in anyway... essentially bad things will aspire. But, to my knowledge, a TOS has never actually been upheld in court. Or I should say never been challenged.

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And if it works?

It probably WILL work. What's the point? What law exactly are people breaking? Will the jack booted Gestapo swing into action at the 'recommendation' of a corrupt corporation to arrest everyone? The POINT they are trying to make is quite simple. AT&T is SELLING something they can't provide. AT&T made TONS of money selling the iphone, which they KNEW they couldn't support. The real evil criminal here is not the users, not the person calling for this, it's AT&T. If criminal charges ARE going to be filed, they should be filed against AT&T, for KNOWINGLY selling something they knew they couldn't support. AT&T should be jailed, but, since you CAN'T PUNISH a corporation with the same laws they apply to real people, the next best thing should be done, and AT&T's charter should be revoked, breaking up the company.
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Re: And if it works?

Pot , kettle...

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No problems here-so far

Well, it seems this asshole hasn't shut down my phone service yet. I understand the frustration with AT&T,. I have been there and am still there on occasion, even though service has markedly improved in my area(previously a trouble zone). It's no excuse to block 911 calls and other possible emergencies. Some of us don't have a landline because we're not home enough to justify paying for one. Not talking about myself personally(have TWC digital phone), but it would be often a pain to have to come home to make calls. This idiocy is almost equivalent with "Let's DDoS Facebook because they won't give us a dislike button! Wah! Wah!". Go to hell, Lyons. You call yourself a professional? Try massive phone complaints about the service instead of plotting stupid shit on your blog. I did that here with other unhappy people and that may be why they seem to be solving whatever issue we had been having. 1 person is not enough for these companies.
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Obviously

Of course he will post saying not to do it so cover his own ass, but in reality, he wants it to go.

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Re: Obviously

if I was AT&T I would want people to do it. If they have nothing to hide then they can let their customers prove that the service works.
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Re: Obviously

That and AT&T could use this to their advantage to discover the poorly maintained areas. FREE LABOR

I think networks need to be tested in case of National emergency again anyways. I remember the last one, I couldn't make a phone call but once every 5 minutes cause I kept getting "All Circuits are busy" messages and it was the BIG A's awesome network....
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Awesome idea actually. It's not a national emergency and between noon and 3 pm on a weekday isn't a peak time for cellular networks last time I checked. So AT&T can take a good ahrd look at their network afternoon to really see what might happen if there's a legitimate emergency that results in high data usage...maybe they'll learn a thing or two and beef up their network before it's too late.

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Public safety concern?

Why should/would cell phone data be able to disrupt 911 cell phone service? Or will this expose that they've so oversubscribed their cell phone towers that this is a problem?

Are they suggesting that first responders are using an unreliable public cell phone network for critical communications?!

This is NOT the same as yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theater.

If they had suggested that everybody call 911 at the same time, that would be a public safety issue. Again, asking everybody (who's willing) to surf to YouTube or »iphone.akamai.com/ is NOT the same as yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theater!

If the cell phone network is designed properly this should be equivalent to a free large scale stress test of the cell phone data network.

When roads become congested, tolls/taxes are increased and roads are widened to provide more capacity. This could help AT&T identify where they need to upgrade their capacity. Then again, this might just help them justify charging even higher fees than they currently do for the same infrastructure.

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Re: Public safety concern?

said by justbits:

Why should/would cell phone data be able to disrupt 911 cell phone service? Or will this expose that they've so oversubscribed their cell phone towers that this is a problem?
Operation Chokehold, even if it does happen at 3PM EST/noon PST as someone suggested, won't interrupt phone service (911 or otherwise).

I personally think this will have something in common with those episodes in history where everyone flushes their toilet at the same time (like Superbowl half-time). I also don't think it will last an hour, as nobody has that attention span. It may last 5-10 minutes.

Still, the best way to register your discontent is to figure out how to move your iPhone to T-Mobile (rumor has it this works fine), and then do it. (Or flush your toilet at half-time.)
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After the end of the final episode of MASH, the water usage in New York City surged 300,000 gallons.
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I agree, Operation Chokehold is silly.

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Wow...

The FCC comes running to ATT's defense and not ours, the consumer.

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Re: Wow...

said by cableties:

The FCC comes running to ATT's defense and not ours, the consumer.

"Don't build it, and they will pay for us to!"
How is making sure atts network stays up not looking out for the consumer? Their are people who dont care about datqa and want to make a call who would also be brought down by this.

Not every att user is a smartphone user.

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Re: Wow...

said by majortom1029:

said by cableties:

The FCC comes running to ATT's defense and not ours, the consumer.

"Don't build it, and they will pay for us to!"
How is making sure atts network stays up not looking out for the consumer? Their are people who dont care about datqa and want to make a call who would also be brought down by this.

Not every att user is a smartphone user.
Quite a few people seem to have it in their mind that high data usage on the network is going to affect voice calls. If it somehow does then the blame falls SQUARELY on AT&T's shoulders. It is not the end-user's fault for using a service that he or she pays for.

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The FCC comes running to ATT's defense and not ours, the consumer.

"Don't build it, and they will pay for us to!"

You are talking about 2 separate actions
The FCC is trying to prevent an attack on a data network.

The FTC could use this to charge AT&T with fraudulent sales, IF they believe they can prove AT&T KNEW* and deliberately oversold it's capacity (beyond the normal multiplier used to manage ALL non- dedicated networks)

*AT&t "KNOWING" is way beyond saying it's a no brainer, more is that they had calculated bandwidth usage, and KNEW that it would definitely be inadequate, but proceeded anyway. Very hard to prove unless damning e-mails or memos are found.

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said by cableties:

The FCC comes running to ATT's defense and not ours, the consumer.

"Don't build it, and they will pay for us to!"
the fcc is worried that the govt's main illegal wiretapping network might freeze up... and we know the govt can't operate properly without stomping out our 4th amendment rights.
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It's going to be no different than the experience I get every time I take my phone to a baseball game. With so many users in a concentrated area, I can do nothing with data, but I can make calls. I also highly doubt there are enough people out there who are even aware of this to make a difference.

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Reminds me of my favorite "Hackers" line...

"Kill the Gibson."

Haha, seriously though - I hope AT&T feels the pain today.

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Re: Reminds me of my favorite "Hackers" line...

said by Telco_Tech:

"Kill the Gibson."

Haha, seriously though - I hope AT&T feels the pain today.

- Tate

+1 (can't wait for my contract to finish), and (I can't wait till more phones like the iPhone come out, and then what will AT&T do?)

tshirt
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Re: Reminds me of my favorite "Hackers" line...

said by RolteC:

1 (can't wait for my contract to finish), and (I can't wait till more phones like the iPhone come out, and then what will AT&T do?)

Exactly why they aren't dumping billion$ into building out a more robust network, The iPhone effect is temporary until exclusivity ends, or strong contenders (like droids) reduce market share and lessen the bandwidth crunch.

RolteC
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Fresh Meadows, NY
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Re: Reminds me of my favorite "Hackers" line...

So the way I see things is the following:

AT&T wants quick cash fast. And they know their time is ending quick.

Verizon for one is going to grab everything they can, FiOS already dominates in speed and price, and now their cell phones are becoming more like the iPhone or better!

Now I cant wait until the iPhone can be used on the better, more robust Verizon network, because AT&T is going to post a good quarter that year, and then the next its going to crash. And they will deserve it for being such losers.

Companies like AT&T disgust me. They want to make everyone feel stupid, and bad for using the service provided for them for the money they/we are paying. Then we get stuck in stupid 2 year contracts. They only want money fast, and dont care at what cost to the customer.

AT&T is only in its position today because it has the iPhone. If not, they wouldnt be as big, and maybe then no one would compain of slow 3G because the phones wouldnt be able to do much anyway!

Go Verizon! You now have my business for tv/internet/home phone, and when I get out of my contract with AT&T I will jump ship ASAP to get away from the stupidity coming out of the overpaid exec's mouths.

Logan 5
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Re: Reminds me of my favorite "Hackers" line...

said by RolteC:

Go Verizon! You now have my business for tv/internet/home phone, and when I get out of my contract with AT&T I will jump ship ASAP to get away from the stupidity coming out of the overpaid exec's mouths.
Sheesh, welcome to crappy support/billing and phantom fees for data access you may or may not use...

And Verizon by default, just because you have an axe to grind with AT&T is any better or more perfect somehow?


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RolteC
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Re: Reminds me of my favorite "Hackers" line...

From what I hear from friends and family, at least here in NYC/NJ where I am most of the time, Verizon is on top with coverage, and most reliable network.

Yes I had my share of crappy billing, but to blame and scold me on my comment and opinion based on "support" "billing" and "phantom fees" really isnt an issue to everyone, and wont keep me away from the service.

And to comment about support so far for tv/internet/phone, its great.

Now since I am coming from a tech savy backround, and an Iphone user, you should already know I use data all day from anywhere.

Jon
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Lisle, IL

Stupid

Do people actually read that idiots blog?

Dread
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Re: Stupid

said by Jon:

Do people actually read that idiots blog?
The ones who do are even bigger idiots.

VR Laura
Queen Of Cyberspace
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said by Jon:

Do people actually read that idiots blog?
If I'm reading it correctly then 725 people subscribe to his blog. Yeah, THAT will take down AT&T!
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hesdeadjim

@verizon.net
i think if you have read any portion of this thread or the news links in the body of the story your question would have been answered before you even had time to post.

Holy_Diver

@pacbell.net

 

This is kinda like telling everyone to turn on every electrical appliance in there house at the same time and seeing how many transformers you can get to blow. That would be unsafe and stupid though. In Fake Steve Jobs' case people can live if a wireless data network goes down, its not voice for 911.
rody_44
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Quakertown, PA

oh well come and go

I called my son who has at@t. He said what are you talking about. I guess its not as bad as everyone says.

cableties
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So its after 3pm...

anything?
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Splat
yt
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Re: So its after 3pm...

said by cableties:

anything?
I was on a conf call on my iphone between 3-4PM ET. While I frequently drop calls for no obvious reason, this call was solid for the entire time... even while driving (headset of course)
lastmile

join:2007-09-08
Robertsville, MO
Speeds still look quite good for 3G with two PC's running concurrently.

One with VPN tunnel and this test w/o tunneling on open internet:


ThrowDemsOut
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»www.sci-tech-today.com/news/Oper···l_skip=1
AT&T says it saw "no impact" from Operation Chokehold, the network-blocking protest urged by the Fake Steve Jobs blog.

At 4:29 p.m. Eastern, a user called Lastangelman posted this comment, "Appearance-wise, it looks like a fail. The network is holding, at worst it's about the same as before.
»losangelespublicrelations.com/op···ld/02520
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David
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.

I dunno the network at the office didn't go down so I can only guess it went off without too many hitches.

o2btom

@cingular.com

WOW

So my question is, if Verizon ever gets the iPhone (after their "There's a map for that" campaign there is speculation they wont) When everyone who complains of the iPhone jumps ship and goes to V, how will there network handle the increase? Oh, wait. They have a slower network to begin with, so it won't be much different. And to all the iPhone users who complain of dropped calls, I can be on my Samsung Rugby while the wife is on her iPhone, and she drops calls left and right, and I never do. Look around. It's not the network. That's why people in other countries on other networks complain of the same issues with the iPhone. Unless you believe At&t has some magical control over overseas companies.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt"

djrobx

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Valencia, CA

Re: WOW

NO! The Jesus phone on the Jesus network will be perfect.
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FastiBook

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Newtown, PA

Fine here too.

No issues all day.

- A
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thender
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He took the wuss's way out.

He should have either

a) Made clear that he has changed his mind. He should've stated he is not ready to face the consequences of what he threw together.

b) Went through with it and supported his initial decision.

But to state that he was never serious about it all along is the wuss's way out. This is backpedaling at its worst.
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EGeezer
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Midwest
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So, how'd it go Friday?

Haven't heard anything about any service problems.

But then, I doubt ATT would pursue it. If they did, they'd have to provide technical details on just how much usage caused how much disruption. If ATT had problems with a small percentage of users watching Doctor Zhivago in HD on their phones from noon 'till 12:15, that could be too embarrassing to admit

However, any reports would be useful for curiosity's sake..
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RolteC
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Fresh Meadows, NY
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Re: So, how'd it go Friday?

Does anyone notice that even if a lot of users did this, that unless they were all on the same cell tower, then it wouldnt slow anyone down because everyone is too spread out. If anything, each phone might use 100kbit to 1mbit of bandwidth, and then what, that should make the network drop or lag, especialy since AT&T has a backbone of its own already.

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