 barn25
join:2005-11-17
Springfield, IL | really, really sad... does this surprise anyone? | |
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sansri88
Go digtal you analog laggards
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join:2005-12-17
Iselin, NJ
clubs:  | Eh... What do you expect? It's the FCC, Verizon and AT&T has it in their pockets! | |
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join:2004-05-15
Hillsborough, NC | Re: Eh... dont forget time warner | |
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sansri88
Go digtal you analog laggards
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join:2005-12-17
Iselin, NJ
clubs: | Re: Eh... I always thought the FCC (at least now) had it out for cable companies. Or is that just Comcast and Cablevision? | |
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jjoshua
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join:2001-06-01
Scotch Plains, NJ | That's not the way it's supposed to work The government should not be involved in a rev share. The government, in the public's best interests, should make the spectrum available to the highest bidder. | |
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| chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA | Re: That's not the way it's supposed to work Isn't the public best interest to have FREE ACROSS THE US internet access.
Rev Share.... is better than taxing the hell out of your life, if you ask me. | |
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| wresnick
join:2003-08-03
Union City, CA
| If revenue is in the public's best interest, then rev share and bidding are both viable options. The one that has the potential of generating the most revenue is the most viable if that's the goal.
If the goal is to serve the best interest of the public, then the allocation should depend on potential uses and how they benefit the general public. If free WiFi makes sense, then companies should be able to state their case. If all other things are equal, then auctioning things off makes sense, unless a sound financial analysis shows a better potential with revenue sharing.
People lease land from governments. They pay taxes in proportion to profits. Governments make profits from auctions, leases, taxes based on value, taxes based on size or area, and taxes based on revenue. Aside from semantics, isn't the last category a form of revenue sharing? | |
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footballdude
join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO | free stuff Sounds like M2Z wants the government to give them something very valuable for free with the promise of payments sometime in the future. And they're surprised the government isn't jumping at the chance? | |
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TK Junk Mail
Go ahead, make my day
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join:2002-03-03
Margate City, NJ
clubs:
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| Re: free stuff said by footballdude  :Sounds like M2Z wants the government to give them something very valuable for free with the promise of payments sometime in the future. And they're surprised the government isn't jumping at the chance? That is what I got out of it. They want the government to take all the risk and their stockholders to get a free ride. Why isn't all the anti-corporate crowd jumping on M2Z for trying to get a free ride?
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| bmn
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join:2001-03-15
hiatus
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| said by footballdude :Sounds like M2Z wants the government to give them something very valuable for free with the promise of payments sometime in the future. And they're surprised the government isn't jumping at the chance? You are right... They government should hold an auction for this spectrum and let smaller providers try and pick up the spectrum to do this...
Oh wait, that's right, they tried that once. The FCC setup an auction of spectrum just for small businesses and guess what... ATT, Verizon and the other incumbents set up a bunch of small front companies to bid on the spectrum and won. Now they control the spectrum...
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| Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
| There is nothing wrong with this business plan as virtually all businesses are started with a "loan" that will require repayment. There is virtually no cost involved to the FCC to give this spectrum away to begin with so......
If this company fails, then the spectrum goes back to the FCC. Keep in mind, they aren't buying the spectrum, they are buying a lease to it and if they can't meet the conditions needed or are unable to utilize it as it should be used for public interest it is the governments and our right to take it back from them.
As pointed out before, the FCC is nothing but a government front for the big Telco's and when the planets are aligned they are the same for the cable companines. | |
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA | Uhh, yeah Advertising supported, family friendly? Good riddance. | |
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jhhyde
join:2006-12-22
Dobbs Ferry, NY
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jc100
join:2002-04-10
·RoadRunner Cable
| Good and Bad Well it depends what this company means by Family Friendly. Are they going to censor and monitor what people do on the line? Is it going to be like a educational firewall where certain terms are blocked? If so, then M2Z might as well not even bother. However, if they are implying they offer settings to do these tasks (that can be disabled or enabled), then I would say this is a good idea. If they are willing to give a service to the public without cost and without tax dollars involved, why not? We all know this wouldn't be possible any other way. No company is going to offer this for free. I say give them a shot on a small scale level. Let them implement in a major city and see how it goes. If it works, then give them the go ahead to build out. My 2 cents. | |
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cmaenginsb
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA
| Rule making is normal process The normal process for the FCC making any policy decision is to go through the "lengthy rulemaking" so that everyone's interest is represented, not just what one company wants. Every major decision the FCC makes (and this would be a major one) goes through this process. If the FCC skipped this process in creating a new policy in the incumbents favor people would be all over them, why should it be any different for these morons?
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| chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA | Re: Rule making is normal process Is not, they presnted their proposal over a year ago. By the same rules the FCC established, they should have responded by know. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA
| Re: Rule making is normal process And how did they present their proposal and where in the FCC rules does it require a time frame for them to act? The FCC generally moves pretty slow, having seen the amount of time it's taken for them to make changes in the unlicensed band a year isn't an unacceptable time to consider something especially depending on how it was first presented to them. | |
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Edward1978
join:2007-07-23
De Soto, IL
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| It is all a lie..... The money hungry US won't do this, it is greed that keept extreeme Southern IL from geting highspeed for so many years & my parents still can't get it. Cause the bonehead who did the wisp in that area, put the antinna in a stupid place, so only the maine town gets it!!! A hill blocks it from us, the freq. is to high to go through!!!! | |
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Edward1978
join:2007-07-23
De Soto, IL
·Verizon Online DSL
| It is all a lie! The money hungry US won't do this, it is greed that keept extreeme Southern IL from geting highspeed for so many years & my parents still can't get it. Cause the bonehead who did the wisp in that area, put the antinna in a stupid place, so only the maine town gets it!!! A hill blocks it from us, the freq. is to high to go through.  | |
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CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County
·Speakeasy
| LOL - how many FREE internet ISP's still exist???? NONE that I am aware of - even NetZero who does not provide anything above dialup.
Even if the hurdles are jumped - I would see this failing within 3-5 years - it is virtually guaranteed.
Every body wants high speed at super low prices or free and that can't even work for phones... Seems folks just do not learn from the lessons of past companies... | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: LOL - how many FREE internet ISP's still exist???? said by CylonRed :NONE that I am aware of - even NetZero who does not provide anything above dialup. They do. you only get 10 free hours/month.
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs: | M2Z is asking for free access for 5% of company's profits Leeches must die. What is 5% of SurRocket's profits. It is time to grow little children. Leeches will not feed you, they will bleed those that do. | |
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jakmart
join:2002-03-21
Grayslake, IL
| Jimmy is still alive with FREE Wi-Fi The proposal on the table in Lake County Illinois is for JimmyWireless to build out FREE Wi-Fi in the Independence Grove Forest Preserve in exchange for a reduced 5 yr tower lease contract. Using DD-WRT with NoCat splash and keyword/web site filtering for good behavior surfing in parking areas. All of you vacationers that travel thru central Lake County will find this a nice amenity. Add-in the concept of teaching amateur radio and wireless technology as an educational program and I hope to create a win-win situation, otherwise, another WISP ends up in the recycle bin. | |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| Hmm, Telco & Cable lobby? So, exactly how much telco and cableco lobbist money did it take to nix this idea?
Free is anticapitalist.. imagine someone giving away free gasoline to put big oil out of business, they simply wouldn't let it happen, it'd be outlawed, an outrage, simply a zero possibility... the powers that be would rather let a million 9/11's & wwiii's happen than let their business go up in smoke.. | |
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AnonDOG
@verizon.net
| It is one thing to complain here... It is quite another to complain to your non-republican senator, representative, or whomever...
Point being that those people are pissed at the incumbents and therefore they may actually do something, unless they are also bought and paid for... | |
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| SylphFi
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join:2007-06-07
Moses Lake, WA | Re: It is one thing to complain here... It worked for Internet Radio (sort of), so it could work here as well. Question is, do you all want it bad enough to take the time to contact your legislative representatives? | |
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FCC Scuttling Free Broadband Plan
Chairman Martin’s staff is using arguments that are nonsensical, not supported by the evidence in the record, and would not stand the light of day in a court.
